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NOC There's Actually a Sequel to the Matrix - Day 9 (Deadline Tuesday 10 PM EST)

im still reading through the thread.
would appreciate all lynches on dusk and nuxl going off because reading back makes me think both are town.
post will come in before deadline.
 
Vote Count 5.3:

Nuxl (2): Pidge, Whydon
Pidge (2): Nuxl, Texas Cloverleaf
Dusk (1): vooper

Not voting: drookez, duskfall98, energy, om room, rssp1

Majority is 6

Deadline in 51 mins.
 
caff #116 pg 5: the kinda thing you post to say "hey im scumreading someone" yet not actually pressure them. this is done towards viper.

vooper #121 pg 5: townie reasoning

whydon #195 pg 8: still have no idea what the fuck he means by "this is kinda not cute" unless he said it and i forgot. either way tell me again

nuxl #197 pg 8: doesnt really make sense to come from scum? i can see scum saying they town gutread me but i dont think they'd give an actual defense of me here. I suppose it would be possible because the entire case on me was a behavioral read from hal which was completely wrong but lol

dusk #208 pg 9: zero reason to call one of hal/fh scum here. I can see the reasoning behind what he said (although I think it's wrong). Potentially trying to give fh towncred?

caff #219 pg 9: similar to dusk's previous post w/ a pretty weak push on viper, which was kinda par for what he did the entire game.

rad #282 pg 12: light viper defense, strange dusk townread

om #292 pg 12: om calls out rad/energy/caff scumteam. :thinking:

nuxl #334 (plus the next few) pg 14: pretty solid stuff from nuxl, I dont think we see this from a scum boyo

caff #362 pg 15: calls dusk town for the same reasons i did, also calls nuxl town for posting a lot (?), gutreads viper scum and doesnt scumread anyone else

energy #374 pg 15: shitposting at this stage is ?_?. Picking on the towniest of the fake mafia claims is also weird (although worth saying that every other fake mafia claim did flip scum lmfao)

om #399 pg 16: i like this push, esp given former flipped scum it makes om look v townie.

whydon #404 pg 17: im not sure why but this doesn't strike me as a townie response. Not talking about not lynching inferno previously but the way he went about it, if that makes sense?

OM room #424 pg 17: you said you think one of whydon/fh/texas is scum. it ended up fh. do you think whydon and texas are town as a result?

whydon #454 pg 19: this is absolutely townie and one of the main reasons i was tr'ing him before.

drookez #557 pg 23: this is not as locktown as i thought originally, but nonetheless still townie.

texas and dusk both look townie from the fight tbh, texas moreso than dusk though

looking at caff #695 pg 28 makes me think dusk is town, caff provides an actual case on dusk here which I dont think he's going to do if dusk is his scumpartner (esp given all the cases are other scum + whydon at the moment, pretty sure).

me #820, pg 33: i scumlean or scumread fh/caff/rad/energy, just keeping note because i have energy!scum in the back of my mind right now. pidge/viper are null in this list, everyone else alive is a tr/tl

not a set post but vooper scumreading hal w/o giving reasoning is a strange move regardless of his alignment. i dont understand. what are people's thoughts? this is pages 33/34

nuxl #852 pg 35: reminiscent of how i play as town

inferno #866 (pg 35) makes me feel idiotic because this is an obvious town post considering what comes next. who says scum isn't a good lynch then suggests another scum as the alternate option? holy shit we suck

rad #952 page 39: doubt he suggests two scum as the potential lynches, makes me think whydon is town

pidge #1033 pg 42: tonally town imo

oddish's #1165 makes me laugh every time i read it

fh #1269 pg 51: makes me think whydon is town, dont see fh putting whydon as scum when he doesnt absolutely have to

asek #1381 pg 56: has pidge in superfriend group, makes me think that pidge!scum does not ok an asek kill esp given that it would put fh in deep shit. whydon is also t2 friend in this.

energy #1412 pg 57: unprompted and unsupported request to lynch cb, but doesnt follow the lynch as well. dont know what to make of it.

whydon #1638 pg 66 doesnt come from scum

energy #1684 pg 68 doesnt seem townie to me, it reminds me of fh's defeatism

hal #1787 pg 72: calls energy scum for excessive trolling

viper #1812 pg 73: very very townie lmfao

energy willing to entertain a caff lynch in #1909 (pg 77) is strange behavior for scum admittedly

energy #1940 pg 78: this is an exaggeration and i dont like it

want to note that both scum lynch energy right before they died and i think this is planned + nai wrt energy

energy #2210 pg 89: reading this made me think of scum that doesnt feel like playing and either wants to know they've won or just have the game end rn

dusk attempting to activity during the inferno lynch looks town to me

actual reads coming in next, but i think i might have townread every single player in the game aside from energy lmfao
 
dusk has a case and pidge is null

you can argue either way for which to lynch depending on how you feel about dusk

you think page 24-26 reminds you more of your older scumplay?

(re: giving dusk credit:
lovers dance and classic reworked are weird games that i find it hard to use meta for, some early post in lovers can make sense but i don't think they're remotely objectively real noc experiences. i would argue if this were a meta based behavior id envision what scum dusk would look like)

cuz his reaction kinda reminded me of 2d3 day 2 personally. but do you think that's too late in time to still be in his town range?
 
om has been tonally town the entire game and i like his reasoning, I would genuinely be surprised if he ends up scum since every interaction i've observed from him has been town to me

texas is pretty similar, but something or the other has pinged me as off, id definitely recommend taking a look at what he said and not just letting him slide by

i really like all of whydon's reasoning in this game and based on his interaction with scum I do feel like it makes no sense for him to be scum

re-reading the game made me see a bunch of things that pinged me as dusk being town. I dont see scum acting the way he has on several occasions e.g. the way he acted during inferno lynch.

drookez's bigpost makes me think he's town, but i am not a fan of him not posting a lot lately. he has been known to lurk as both town and scum but I would say definitely do not give him a pass. I think it's reasonable to assume he's town but dont just stick to that read if it seems scum can't be found anywhere else

nuxl's posts have consistently seemed town to me, and i think he was only in asek's poe due to being unreadable? if this is wrong definitely take a look at him and consider him for a lynch but otherwise i'm pretty sure he's town.

i personally dont have a read on pidge but i'll trust asek on this one plus the one or two posts i saw from him that looked good make me comfortable enough to not want to lynch him today.

vooper has nothing going from him aside from eod1. he's had scummy interactions with the mafia as well. i think he had a post or two that were good but mostly i do not like what he has.

for energy i genuinely may just be tunneling him, but i've got a gut feel that he's scum. i ended up having a gut feel that fh was town so this is susceptible to being wrong but i've pretty much just poe'd him at this point.

my personal poe is energy/vooper/pidge/drookez with lurking/texas if he survives for a while which he wont, would do the lynches in that order.
lynching the other people is conditional on what i mentioned in their reads. I don't think we ever lynch om or whydon.
 
would appreciate any questions yall have on what i said in case im wrong
i know its a lot but it took me a long time to get it all together >_>
how strong is your meta read on drookez? caff posting about drookez makes me err but that's really all i have going for it

i never played in a game where I actually had to read him because i was scum in the game i was with him and he posted twice about 20 minutes from eod and flipped town
 
drookez read is decently strong, om seems to have the same feeling as me

and iirc the caff push was incredibly weak, so yes i think its plausible
to be fair, every single one of caff's pushes were weak so ehh
but pushing your partner over something that's really easy to defend to give them towncred is something i'd do

hell i will typically get myself into hot water over something stupid as scum just so I can get easy towncred
 
asek poe: nuxl / energy / inferno / pidge / duskfall
my poe: energy/vooper/pidge/drookez with lurking/texas if he survives for a while which he wont

just saving this for ease of access
 
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