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NOC Tracker Jailer Follower - Game Thread - Day 4!

pulsar512b said:
okay yeah i really hate jalmont and in particular how everyone else's treated him during the game. for some reason he basically only got scumread by celever and that scumpush was like very soft w him saying he didnt want to push him d1 bc he hasnt played in a bit, and then he paired dbd and jal, but obviously the dbd stuff was the main focus so jalmont fell into the background. like peum also briefly mentioned not liking his posting and then went and did nothing about it ever. this like super reads as distancing for both (obviously only one can be true, but you get the idea). i just really hate his posting and the relative lack of people pushing him. like i think everyone else in the playerlist (except maybe shyp but shes been kinda inactive without stuff to talk about) has gotten pushed far more.

this post also sus but im probably overreading this
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Dang I shouldn’t have been reminding you to post it seems!

So let’s say I flip town. What next?
 
phoopes said:
look Celever I agree that Peum is probably scum, but we now have votes on four different people (genisu, Peum, you, DBD). I would like to see vote consolidation not more vote splitting. Does this mean you think Peum and DBD are the solve? I reallllllly do not see that

genisu and Peum are much more likely. would love to see a genisu vote from you
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This post kinda rubs me the wrong way ngl.
Feels manipulative, for lack of a better word.
 
Miyami~~~ said:
Option 1 - the scumteam is exactly cel/phoopes, and didn't have enough manpower to move the vote. I think both of them were active near EOD and thus they both could have flipped onto DBD to save des since neither of them were pro-des policy anyways

Option 2 - the scumteam were in the inactive pool. Peum, Pulsar, Pebble I think were not voting des and also not around at eod? Thus des couldn't be protected because the necessary people to do so just weren't around. I guess this could mean only one of them is in this pool and the other is like cel/phoopes if tying the EOD vote causes no elimination to happen.

Option 3 - the scumteam just didn't care to save des for des reasons, and/or just didn't think the wagon would actually go through. Des getting voted on a plurality was wild and it's possible they didn't think it would actually get her voted off and just kind of stuck to whatever their guns were. This would add Neon and Jalmont to the possible pool.

I think DBD is in the clear for the same reasons I know I am, but if you're not me I guess that's an option 4 no matter how stupid it would be

This isn't really a great pool, but I think option 2 and/or 3 is currently the most likely. Jalmont sticks to his no vote guns pretty much every d1 from what I know of him and who knows why Neon did what he did. This leaves me with

TOWNLEAN
Me
DBD
Phoopes
Celever (he's being unusually stubborn this game and that's a high bar, almost to the point of being harmful for town, but I don't see him as a viable vote with the information we have)
Neon (still null to me. The chart stuff is neat but feels easy to fake as mafia since it requires zero giving of your own theory or opinion to do so, it's just repeating facts)
Jalmont
Pulsar
Pebble
Peum
SCUMLEAN

I could be persuaded to vote any of the Ps as of now, except for Phoopes.


I've been using MELO and ELO personally. Also this wasn't just directed at you but kind of the whole thread so I'm sorry if my tone in that post came off as overly hostile towards you specifically
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Yeah the flaw with your logic is assuming that the guy who spent 3 hours writing a post that detailed every scenario logically plausible would make a mistake as deeply rooted in unexperience as not leaving a vote to make sure their partner doesnt get voted off, would be vocal enough to suggest that the defenders of the policy des could be mafia in D1 and at the same time advocating for the reasons that a Des policy could be bad. Think it yourself for a second, why would I as mafia, impose myself to such risks? My playstyle right now attracts such unnecessary attention to myself that in now way or form would it ever be compatible with your Scenario 2.

Also, cant your Scenario 3 also include yourself and DBD? Why are you separating it onto another category, each one of your points is compatible with my Scenario 1 that in no way or form can you actually separate it.

But as the wind goes, I've decided to keep my vote on Pulsar. I think we have much to gain from it, be it Town or Mafia. As any of the two could reveal who's been siding with whom and seek out my Scenario 2 or 3.
 
dang idk what to do or feel

i think my favorite part of today was dbd popping in to forgive celever and nothing else. runner up is neon only being halfway through reading the game

i haven't heard from anyone so i unfortunately i'm still voting pulsar i think for now. it's tough because i do feel like my overall read on pulsar is town?

maybe celever is just mafia lol. the dbd thing was just so dumb like it's like 5% to be a bus surely? but i say that and I get insta nervous haha
 
jalmont said:
dang idk what to do or feel

i think my favorite part of today was dbd popping in to forgive celever and nothing else. runner up is neon only being halfway through reading the game

i haven't heard from anyone so i unfortunately i'm still voting pulsar i think for now. it's tough because i do feel like my overall read on pulsar is town?

maybe celever is just mafia lol. the dbd thing was just so dumb like it's like 5% to be a bus surely? but i say that and I get insta nervous haha
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He did WHAT
 
jalmont said:
Dang I shouldn’t have been reminding you to post it seems!

So let’s say I flip town. What next?
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well say i flip town (which is what is going to happen with you voting me if that works) what next for you :p

but more seriously, I would be looking to figure out stuff based on the wagonomics of the details, but also I would be trying to get on maybe DBD or more likely Cel to 'resolve' that whole cel/dbd thing or more likely I would want to land on phoopes or ShyP, kind of as a POE play.
 
Peum said:
Yeah the flaw with your logic is assuming that the guy who spent 3 hours writing a post that detailed every scenario logically plausible would make a mistake as deeply rooted in unexperience as not leaving a vote to make sure their partner doesnt get voted off, would be vocal enough to suggest that the defenders of the policy des could be mafia in D1 and at the same time advocating for the reasons that a Des policy could be bad. Think it yourself for a second, why would I as mafia, impose myself to such risks? My playstyle right now attracts such unnecessary attention to myself that in now way or form would it ever be compatible with your Scenario 2.
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you literally weren't around near EOD on day 1. I wasn't suggesting inexperience, just that you were probably busy? I don't know why you're so mad at that. You made 11 posts day 1, two of which where about Genisu not being Geinusx. Not exactly high activity at the time. Spending three hours on one post on day two is not relevant to day 1, which is what we've been talking about. You were also far from the only one to suggest a des policy was bad, would you say Phoopes and Celever are also cleared because of that, or just yourself?

Peum said:
Also, cant your Scenario 3 also include yourself and DBD? Why are you separating it onto another category, each one of your points is compatible with my Scenario 1 that in no way or form can you actually separate it.
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Literally all DBD or I would've had to do to not bus des for zero reason is move to Pulsar, who herself had zero posts. Nobody has yet to offer an actual explanation for why bussing des on day 1 would've been a smart play, especially considering we've spent the next two game days discussing this, especially since it's much easier to hide behind a living des than a dead one
 
Celever said:
ImaginaryNeon love having you back in the game, it's getting towards the end of D3 and you haven't done any gameplay yet, can you start some gameplay :wo:
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Gameplay is subjective
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if jal's scum it's our fault for giving him free NAI content but at this stage I'm townsolving him gj jal

I get the push from pulsar, the trouble with it is there's only 2 scum so trying to read into macro thread dynamics has to be done in a really granular and tedious way to get good results

like pulsar's correct that jal's received very little pressure this game (aside from me D1 whee) but all of us will have not received any pressure from one other slot in the game and that other slot could be our scumbud if we think no bussing's occurring (which it prob isn't atm). jal stands out bc he's also being townread by town so the lack of pressure is clearer, but being townread by town isn't scummy yk
 
idr when deadline is it might be soon

##VOTE: Peum

wagons are now tied between pulsar and Peum on 2 votes each. tying would be bad, so I sure hope someone comes along and solve this conundrum :wo:
 
ImaginaryNeon said:
This post kinda rubs me the wrong way ngl.
Feels manipulative, for lack of a better word.
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But uh given that this is the best lead I have at the moment and I don't remember who was supposed to have claimed what uh
##Vote: phoopes
There is a good chance I am entirely wrong here given that I literally have not seen half of the game but whatever idfk man
 
ImaginaryNeon said:
But uh given that this is the best lead I have at the moment and I don't remember who was supposed to have claimed what uh
##Vote: phoopes
There is a good chance I am entirely wrong here given that I literally have not seen half of the game but whatever idfk man
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:blobglare: I feel like including the phrase "and I don't remember who was supposed to have claimed what" means you do remember that phoopes claimed something
 
Miyami~~~ said:
you literally weren't around near EOD on day 1. I wasn't suggesting inexperience, just that you were probably busy? I don't know why you're so mad at that. You made 11 posts day 1, two of which where about Genisu not being Geinusx. Not exactly high activity at the time. Spending three hours on one post on day two is not relevant to day 1, which is what we've been talking about. You were also far from the only one to suggest a des policy was bad, would you say Phoopes and Celever are also cleared because of that, or just yourself?


Literally all DBD or I would've had to do to not bus des for zero reason is move to Pulsar, who herself had zero posts. Nobody has yet to offer an actual explanation for why bussing des on day 1 would've been a smart play, especially considering we've spent the next two game days discussing this, especially since it's much easier to hide behind a living des than a dead one
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Cool make a post that doesnt invalid any of my points
 
Celever said:
ok well phoopes claimed jailkeeper

this doesn't confirm him as town because he could be scum knowing we're in setup 3 because scum's 3 goons and so he knew he wouldn't get CCed by a JK cos it's not in the game

but he also might just be JK and we're in setup 4

does this impact your vote?
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Well in that case uh
Whoops
##Invite
Anyways back to the dungeon (page 20)
 
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