SS OU Trick team -- any ideas?

chefsneasel

chefsneasel

So basically I've been running Clefable@Sticky Barb with Trick for a long long time and I've always liked the edge you immediately and easily get by just not only taking away the opponent's item but also giving him one that his going to almost completely ruin the use of the tricked Pokemon while he is still alive. I've been on the other hand as well, obviously, and having your Ferrothorn or your Toxapex be "offered" a Choice Scarf is definitely not a funny situation.

Therefore, I was thinking about really building a team with multiple Trick threats, by adding the likes of Latias@Choice Scarf and/or Jirachi@Choice Scarf, and I ended up with the following party:

The PCP dude (Toxapex) (M) @ Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Toxic Spikes
- Recover
- Knock Off
- Haze

Oubre of Kelly (Clefable) (M) @ Sticky Barb
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Toxic
- Soft-Boiled
- Trick

Dennis Scrodom (Latias) (F) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Ice Beam
- Roost
- Psyshock
- Trick

Wataburger (Heatran) @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Magma Storm
- Earth Power
- Taunt
- Toxic

who?! (Jirachi) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Trick
- Iron Head
- Stealth Rock
- U-turn

The THC dude (Corviknight) (M) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Roost
- Body Press
- Brave Bird
- U-turn

FlightReacts subscribers will understand the nicknames, and if you don't, just go check the funniest YouTube channel out there. Anyways, any idea on how I can improve this? Better covers maybe? I played a few games, can't already say who is really problematic for this team, except for Life Orbed Nidoking, depending on the moveset.
 
I would say the only changes i would add is maybe make latias latios instead with this set
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Latios @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Psychic
- Trick
- Aura Sphere

then maybe you could make corv a iron def body press set instead if you wanted to something like this
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Corviknight @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Body Press
- Iron Defense
- Defog
- Roost


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Corviknight @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Bulk Up
- Brave Bird
- Defog
- Roost

Other then that team seems very very solid
 
The problem with Trick based teams is that often people will start using other Tricked pokemon as Trick fodder, leading to things like your Latias getting a Sticky Barb. Also, on a Trick-based team, Knock Off Toxapex probably isn't very effective. The goal is to cripple the opponent with useless items, such as a Corviknight that swaps in on Jirachi getting a Choice Scarf. If you Knock accidentally as they swap out, that's a problem. I honestly don't have much faith for Trick spam as a plastyle due to the reasons listed above, but if you want to try and make it work I'd at least make Toxapex Scald over Knock Off, as to not undo the crippling Tricking.

Good luck, and I love the creativity! :)
 
Thanks a lot for the feedback! Obviously I try to be very cautious in the moments I choose to go for a trick when the opponent already has Sticky Barb, but anyways we'll see how it goes on the long run :)
 
Pinkacross said:
The problem with Trick based teams is that often people will start using other Tricked pokemon as Trick fodder, leading to things like your Latias getting a Sticky Barb. Also, on a Trick-based team, Knock Off Toxapex probably isn't very effective. The goal is to cripple the opponent with useless items, such as a Corviknight that swaps in on Jirachi getting a Choice Scarf. If you Knock accidentally as they swap out, that's a problem. I honestly don't have much faith for Trick spam as a plastyle due to the reasons listed above, but if you want to try and make it work I'd at least make Toxapex Scald over Knock Off, as to not undo the crippling Tricking.

Good luck, and I love the creativity! :)
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