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NOC Two Mafias Mafia - Won by The Pack
- Thread starter Aura Guardian
- Start date
What's pulsar's scum rate now?
Purealiti, post: 9832677, member: 212435"]
Why is toaster reacting to all my posts
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Pure spite.
And the worst part is that's the most he's actually contributed to the game.
Why is toaster reacting to all my posts
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Pure spite.
And the worst part is that's the most he's actually contributed to the game.
Here's some food for thought. Look at every single person who's said bad things about me in this thread before. I believe a fairy is probably the only one who's never attacked me. Obviously me being scum team with a fairy is impossible now since one of each team has died. That should also go towards clearing me.
The so-called village-lead lynches from last two days have clearly not worked. I see people in here saying that they remember me being a strong player in the past while lots of others are calling out my so-called easy to read scummy behavior. Can't have it both ways. I think I should have given enough evidence for village to put their trust in me now.
The so-called village-lead lynches from last two days have clearly not worked. I see people in here saying that they remember me being a strong player in the past while lots of others are calling out my so-called easy to read scummy behavior. Can't have it both ways. I think I should have given enough evidence for village to put their trust in me now.
CAN THIS DAMN TABLET GO TWO SECONDS WITHOUT COMPLETELY FUCKING UP THE QUOTES
This is also the most important day of the game. Here's some simple math. It's 5-1-1, so if we vote a scum out today, it's 5-1, then 4-1 after night, and should be very easy to confirm scum afterwards with an investigative role like me alive. However, if we mislynch, the numbers become 4-1-1, then go down to 2-1-1 if the two scums both hit town, and that will make the game into an RNG festival based on 50-50 tie votes, and whatever team the host rolls the dice to let kill first if the two scum end up in a night shooting game. Since this is the most important day to not mislynch, I think full claims are in order from everyone.
In my defense, I just repeatedly confused you for toaster.
I couldn't care less about your slot rn.
Well I probably could, but I don't care to go out of the way to increase how much I don't care.
Mafia bluegummybear went as far as to start the initial bandwagon and accusations on me day 1, and Pack pulsar was attacking me pretty heavily yesterday.
So who did you track?
how is it possible you tracked bgb got no results? That doesn’t make sense
Tracked pulsar. Could be any number of things with our can neither confirm or deny host, hooks or priority shenanigans like killing outspeeding tracking etc.
I mean it was a horrible vote from day 1 sorry, like it was just seemed very obvious he was flailing and didn't know what was going on, aka no teammate available to fill him in. Now we are stuck having to solve ipl/celever in mylo. Or maybe you are just mafia. you need to claim.
Honestly I have no idea what's going on. I'm guessing both maf teams shot to try and xfire and put themselves in position to win and only one team succeed. I'll think about this more tomorrow.
ipl i think you are too smart to not recognize the fact that it doesn't make any sense that you went from claiming "info role" to tracker? why didn't you just claim tracker outright? and you didn't show any confusion that your track had no result given the fact that we are 99% confident bgb didn't idle his abilities. how it possible that you have no results from that day?
the crazy thing is that i still kind of believe you but the lack of results from night 1 i do not understand.
jalmont twin -> IC
ehmcee twin -> 2x vig
psy - VT
neon - VT
af - VT
Toaster - VT
Zippy - JK
HH - VT
realiti - supposedly a PR
psy - VT
neon - VT
af - VT
celever - paranoid gun owner + bpv
ipl - bpv + tacker
bgb - mafia roleblocker
pulsar - pack cop
i mean surely it is one of celever or ipl? can we have both on the same team? maybe we can, and that's the balance of not having an alignment checkers? but tracker is an info role.
i don't know between the vanillas. it's probably like neon>af>>>psy but then neon is multiple degrees of magnitude from being anywhere clear for me.
ehmcee twin -> 2x vig
psy - VT
neon - VT
af - VT
Toaster - VT
Zippy - JK
HH - VT
realiti - supposedly a PR
psy - VT
neon - VT
af - VT
celever - paranoid gun owner + bpv
ipl - bpv + tacker
bgb - mafia roleblocker
pulsar - pack cop
i mean surely it is one of celever or ipl? can we have both on the same team? maybe we can, and that's the balance of not having an alignment checkers? but tracker is an info role.
i don't know between the vanillas. it's probably like neon>af>>>psy but then neon is multiple degrees of magnitude from being anywhere clear for me.
we cant because one mafia has flipped and one pack has flipped
your tunnel on me is ridiculous you need to get over it before you lose the game
pulsar way improved her scumgame btw kudos to her
vote realiti
vote realiti
I already had a conversation with host AG about my results and was told can neither confirm nor deny anything way back. Pulsar was scum cop so her getting hooked was either an outright lie or bgb targeting her. N1 I didn’t claim tracker outright since I saw no need. Also my claims have only served to draw suspicion on me since then so why would I do that to myself if I’m so smart lol.
Plus it looks like I am the only claimed town night role left? That makes my next night target very simple then. Will announce right here that I will target realiti for the next night. Or if consensus is to check a claimed villager let’s hear it during day since night posts are banned.
what was pulsars read on realiti
realiti is the only person who hasn't claimed according to Jalmont's list? If that is right realiti you really should be claiming now considering every other player in the game has claimed something
As for discussing overpowered roles comparing me and Celever I think Celever's takes the cake. Having a BPV reflect a scum kill just seems extremely overpowered to be on the town side. Vigilantes are usually restricted by the fact that they can misfire and hit town, while this is just a 100% free kill.
The cop was scum and got killed by the other scumteam because they thought she was town. If this was a standard one mafia vs. town game that's fine to false claim but as you see that was a terrible idea. That can be excused by saying pulsar is a relatively new player.
As for discussing overpowered roles comparing me and Celever I think Celever's takes the cake. Having a BPV reflect a scum kill just seems extremely overpowered to be on the town side. Vigilantes are usually restricted by the fact that they can misfire and hit town, while this is just a 100% free kill.
The cop was scum and got killed by the other scumteam because they thought she was town. If this was a standard one mafia vs. town game that's fine to false claim but as you see that was a terrible idea. That can be excused by saying pulsar is a relatively new player.
why is jalmont alive btw
Vote IPL
Nah I’m sorry at this point his claim has changed too many times, and tracking pulsar last night is a ?????? move that I don’t think he makes at all. I don’t think he ever expressed a scumread on her, and if not then IDK why he would track her over a scummier player in the game.
Tracker with BPV is definitely, definitely a stronger role than one-shot PGO with BPV when town also has at least two vig shots (Ehmcee). Tracker with BPV just isn’t something people include in games. It’s a very strong role that mafia needs to be able to shoot if they work out who the tracker is. I don’t think AG includes tracker + BPV in the game.
Nah I’m sorry at this point his claim has changed too many times, and tracking pulsar last night is a ?????? move that I don’t think he makes at all. I don’t think he ever expressed a scumread on her, and if not then IDK why he would track her over a scummier player in the game.
Tracker with BPV is definitely, definitely a stronger role than one-shot PGO with BPV when town also has at least two vig shots (Ehmcee). Tracker with BPV just isn’t something people include in games. It’s a very strong role that mafia needs to be able to shoot if they work out who the tracker is. I don’t think AG includes tracker + BPV in the game.
She's just me but instead of always rolling town she always rolls scum.
Also without the sheer amount of moronity.
Can we talk about psy's claims for a second?
I don't really like the inconsistency here.
I don't really like the inconsistency here.
we're in a p good position rn for the solve bc we know with 100% certainty that both of the remaining scum are either buddies with BGB or pulsar. Solving should probably be done through this lens from this point forward, though I'm sure pulsar gave us more content to work with than BGB did in this regard.
We all know she has good buddy potential with gummy, since they consensused a lot (and my instinct wrt this if they are buddies is BGB is coming back from a hiatus and clung to his buddy's reads a bit, fairy didn't even notice it was happening). Gummy also scumread more people than he townread, and fairy was one of his townreads IIRC.
pulsar x fairy would be a strange team. They've teamed before as a duo and their relationship this game was very different to the last time, but it was also pulsar's first game and this game she played so much better (great to see in hindsight, the only way she loses is by getting shot I think which is very impressive but also ty scum lmao). pulsar gunned for fairy pretty hard, though never ended a day voting her. The chance of this team isn't 0, but it's low.
Neon
has the villager spew and nothing to feasibly read into besides this. I guess the one takeaway is that neither BGB nor pulsar would come up with the fake villager claim play, so it probably just gives Neon even further towncred.
IPL
I, again, could see IPL probably being with either one of them, but I suppose it's likelier that he'd be with BGB than pulsar. It would be a wild play for both pulsar and IPL to claim investigative while being on the same team, and if IPL is scum then probably the setup has an investigative on both scum factions and on neither town ones. At the same time, I don't actually think IPL is a tracker, and I don't recall playing with him a long time ago (though I think I actually did, at some point) to know how gambity he is. It would be a legitimately viable strategy to double claim investigative and have the other person gain huge towncred once one of them dies to ride out to a win. It's just a high risk strategy, too, and if this is the strategy they executed it probably came from IPL instead of pulsar.
A super level 1 read that I have to say anyway is that the most active IPL has ever been is right after pulsar died. If he's rusty, there's a chance he had poor contribution juggling between scumchat and thread, and that got exposed once the scumchat became useless to him.
I'm not sure there's anything linking BGB and IPL together at all, otherwise, they would just kinda be two scum chilling together. BGB doesn't have links to many players, especially living ones, except hard scumreading me and realiti I think.
Psy
A pretty viable candidate to be with either of them, probably. I'd need to go over and check this, but my instinct is that he didn't actually townread pulsar, which I think is higher buddy equity than townreading / towncoring her in most timelines because I think pulsar was just, a town player for all intents and purposes and it's not like he cased her behaviour in-thread to arrive at reasonably not towncoring her. If they are buddies then the resistance to hard tring her is probably TMI. I think this might also apply to fairy but would need to check that too, but what doesn't also apply to fairy is I don't remember pulsar ever giving thoughts on Psy herself, one way or the other. Again, I'd argue that in most universes this probably increases the likelihood of a Psy x pulsar scumteam, since pulsar read quite widely and had a mobile vote otherwise. OTOH I think pulsar did express fewer townreads than scumreads in the game in general, so it could just amount to not wanting to bus him.
Psy and BGB I'm p sure have no link, I'm not even sure they interacted once, which could be noteworthy in its own right because on D1 Psy was trying to interact with as many people as he couldbesides Neon. Another one who I could see going either way.
All in all, I don't think BGB and pulsar being the two potential scumbuds looks good for Psy.
realiti
realiti is a very simple slot wrt this. He was scumread by BGB but townread BGB in return (I think). OTOH he was scumread by pulsar to the point of her claiming failed investigate on him D2 but towncored pulsar in return.
Yeah, it's plausible he's with either of them. I townread realiti still, though, and these positions are more of us just mindmelding since I also townread both players by the time they died (whoops). I don't think there's much to discriminate between which one he's likelier to be a buddy with if he is scum, except for pulsar claiming the failed investigate on him D2 is a somewhat risky strategy in case town locks her in to trying to check realiti again, at which point if they are buddies pulsar would either need to fake clear (meaning she gets completely found if realiti gets shot which is a likely outcome) or bus her buddy completely for the towncred (increasing the chance of her getting shot herself). Do either pulsar or realiti think that deeply about this move though? Ehhhhh probably not lol, but even still I'd say the move is risky enough that I'd put scum!realiti as a BGB buddy before a pulsar one.
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tl;dr
Neon probably gains even more townpoints. Great.
fairy is probably likelier with gummy than pulsar, would be surprised if they tried the bus strat all game.
IPL made an interesting gambit if he's scum with pulsar, but overall is probably likelier to be with BGB in the likely event he is scum, and AG really just gave town 0 info roles and put the info roles on each scum faction (which is LMAO, btw).
I need to factcheck my Psy stuff but he's probably got the most pulsar scumbud equity in the game. He also has some with BGB, but p much everyone has some with BGB, while pulsar did a better job of either distancing or bussing her buddy to the point it's hard to draw conclusions. Psy is the main exception to this.
realiti had the same game relationship with both dead scum, but more intensely with pulsar than BGB. pulsar claiming she tried to check realiti D2 but failed is kind of a risk-free play but also kind of a risky one, and might tilt realiti more to the "BGB buddy" side of things, but there's not much else to parse than that.
- a fairy
- Celever
- ImaginaryNeon
- imperfectluck
- JALMONT Village Innocent Twin / Mason -> Innocent Child. Revealed end of N1
- Psypsypsypsypsythe
- realiti
We all know she has good buddy potential with gummy, since they consensused a lot (and my instinct wrt this if they are buddies is BGB is coming back from a hiatus and clung to his buddy's reads a bit, fairy didn't even notice it was happening). Gummy also scumread more people than he townread, and fairy was one of his townreads IIRC.
pulsar x fairy would be a strange team. They've teamed before as a duo and their relationship this game was very different to the last time, but it was also pulsar's first game and this game she played so much better (great to see in hindsight, the only way she loses is by getting shot I think which is very impressive but also ty scum lmao). pulsar gunned for fairy pretty hard, though never ended a day voting her. The chance of this team isn't 0, but it's low.
Neon
has the villager spew and nothing to feasibly read into besides this. I guess the one takeaway is that neither BGB nor pulsar would come up with the fake villager claim play, so it probably just gives Neon even further towncred.
IPL
I, again, could see IPL probably being with either one of them, but I suppose it's likelier that he'd be with BGB than pulsar. It would be a wild play for both pulsar and IPL to claim investigative while being on the same team, and if IPL is scum then probably the setup has an investigative on both scum factions and on neither town ones. At the same time, I don't actually think IPL is a tracker, and I don't recall playing with him a long time ago (though I think I actually did, at some point) to know how gambity he is. It would be a legitimately viable strategy to double claim investigative and have the other person gain huge towncred once one of them dies to ride out to a win. It's just a high risk strategy, too, and if this is the strategy they executed it probably came from IPL instead of pulsar.
A super level 1 read that I have to say anyway is that the most active IPL has ever been is right after pulsar died. If he's rusty, there's a chance he had poor contribution juggling between scumchat and thread, and that got exposed once the scumchat became useless to him.
I'm not sure there's anything linking BGB and IPL together at all, otherwise, they would just kinda be two scum chilling together. BGB doesn't have links to many players, especially living ones, except hard scumreading me and realiti I think.
Psy
A pretty viable candidate to be with either of them, probably. I'd need to go over and check this, but my instinct is that he didn't actually townread pulsar, which I think is higher buddy equity than townreading / towncoring her in most timelines because I think pulsar was just, a town player for all intents and purposes and it's not like he cased her behaviour in-thread to arrive at reasonably not towncoring her. If they are buddies then the resistance to hard tring her is probably TMI. I think this might also apply to fairy but would need to check that too, but what doesn't also apply to fairy is I don't remember pulsar ever giving thoughts on Psy herself, one way or the other. Again, I'd argue that in most universes this probably increases the likelihood of a Psy x pulsar scumteam, since pulsar read quite widely and had a mobile vote otherwise. OTOH I think pulsar did express fewer townreads than scumreads in the game in general, so it could just amount to not wanting to bus him.
Psy and BGB I'm p sure have no link, I'm not even sure they interacted once, which could be noteworthy in its own right because on D1 Psy was trying to interact with as many people as he could
All in all, I don't think BGB and pulsar being the two potential scumbuds looks good for Psy.
realiti
realiti is a very simple slot wrt this. He was scumread by BGB but townread BGB in return (I think). OTOH he was scumread by pulsar to the point of her claiming failed investigate on him D2 but towncored pulsar in return.
Yeah, it's plausible he's with either of them. I townread realiti still, though, and these positions are more of us just mindmelding since I also townread both players by the time they died (whoops). I don't think there's much to discriminate between which one he's likelier to be a buddy with if he is scum, except for pulsar claiming the failed investigate on him D2 is a somewhat risky strategy in case town locks her in to trying to check realiti again, at which point if they are buddies pulsar would either need to fake clear (meaning she gets completely found if realiti gets shot which is a likely outcome) or bus her buddy completely for the towncred (increasing the chance of her getting shot herself). Do either pulsar or realiti think that deeply about this move though? Ehhhhh probably not lol, but even still I'd say the move is risky enough that I'd put scum!realiti as a BGB buddy before a pulsar one.
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tl;dr
Neon probably gains even more townpoints. Great.
fairy is probably likelier with gummy than pulsar, would be surprised if they tried the bus strat all game.
IPL made an interesting gambit if he's scum with pulsar, but overall is probably likelier to be with BGB in the likely event he is scum, and AG really just gave town 0 info roles and put the info roles on each scum faction (which is LMAO, btw).
I need to factcheck my Psy stuff but he's probably got the most pulsar scumbud equity in the game. He also has some with BGB, but p much everyone has some with BGB, while pulsar did a better job of either distancing or bussing her buddy to the point it's hard to draw conclusions. Psy is the main exception to this.
realiti had the same game relationship with both dead scum, but more intensely with pulsar than BGB. pulsar claiming she tried to check realiti D2 but failed is kind of a risk-free play but also kind of a risky one, and might tilt realiti more to the "BGB buddy" side of things, but there's not much else to parse than that.