Tyranitar ( OU Mixed Sweeper)

Sciztar

Sciztar

Why this belongs on-site

Tyranitar is by far the most feared pokemon in the OU Tier, but most see him as a support pokemon that just sets up Stealth Rock and maybe a Choice Band. But what about a Mixed Sweeper, there is not to many of them, but the set I have on Tyranitar hits Almost Every Pokemon in OU Tier the Super Effectively except Sableye, Volcarona and Spiritomb. If there are other Pokemon that aren't hit super effectively please let me know.

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Tyranitar [SET]

name: Mixed Sweeper
move 1: Superpower / Brick Break
move 2: Crunch
move 3: Fire Blast
move 4: Ice Beam / Stone Edge
ability: Sandstream
item: Expert Belt / Life Orb
nature: Brave
evs: 160 HP / 252 Atk / 96 Sp Atk

[SET COMMENTS]

-Powerful Mixed Sweeper
-The Evs are for more bulk to Tyranitar while maintaing an offensive force to be reckon with.
-Good on Trick Room Teams, but outside of Trick Room its completely slow.
-Hits every pokemon in the game (except Sabaleye and Spiritomb) super effectively
-Crunch gets rid of Jellicent who will try to Will-O-Wisp
-Superpower is the main selling point, as it KOs all Tyranitar's, Blissey, Chansey, Heatrans and Magnezone
-Ice Beam is good for picking off Dragons, Landorus and Gliscor
-Fire Blast is for Scizor, Ferrothorn, and Skarmory which are OHKO with Stealth Rock (I believe)
-Expert Belt is to increase super effective moves, well since he hits all pokemon thats an increase to boost.
-If the Attack Drop bothers you, you can opt for Brick Break, but it is less powerful.

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

-The downfall of this set is that it needs Trick Room Support. Pokemon like Bronzong, Claydol, Lunatone, Solrock and Reuniclus that can handle the Sandstorm are great teammates.
-Tyranitar is still weak to Scizor's two STAB moves, but it can OHKO it back with Fire Blast.
-Slowbro is defiantly 2HKOed by Crunch, who can take it and Slack Off the damage.
-You can option for Life Orb damage, but I don't see why because the damage from recoil does add up.
-You can swap Ice Beam for Stone Edge to hit Volcarona super effectively but you lose out on hitting Landorus, Gliscor, Dragonite, who can KO Tyranitar with Earthquake.

[Teammates & Counters]

-Scizor is still Tyranitar's greatest nemesis. Teammates that can lure Scizor out and KO are great for Tyranitar
-Pokemon that can set up Trick Room and handle Sandstorm are great teammates
-A Pokemon that can set up Stealth Rock is needed for a sure OHKO by Tyranitar as the Sandstorm damage takes its toll on most pokemon.
-Spikes is also good but I believe Stealth is better.
-The pokemon that aren't 2HKO is Jirachi, I don't know why but I just can't seem to KO this pokemon without it 2HKO with Iron Head.
-Pokemon that can get rid of Celebi and Jirachi as they both pose a threat to Tyranitar's Sweep.
-If Tyranitar is Burned, its not too useless but is only limited to two moves.
 
I believe this set was called 'BaitTar' or 'LureTar' or something in DPP. I don't have loads of experience with in BW but I've used it on a couple of teams. This set is really good in DPP because it could bluff a Scarf set which is the most popular Tyranitar set, but with choiced Tyranitar being somewhat uncommon in BW and Fire Blast / Ice Beam already being pretty standard on Tyranitar, this set doesn't quite work as well. Regardless:

The first thing that stands out to me here is that you mention OHKOing Scizor, OHKOing Tyranitar, and 2HKOing Jellicent, but outside of Trick Room you get outsped and U-turned on or burnt respectively. Basically with your current EV spread and nature this set requires a lot of team support to work, in that you need teammates who can reliably set-up Trick Room repeatedly, as you aren't going to accomplish much with this set in 3 turns. I think the general consensus is that outside of standalone Trick Room sweepers like Reuniclus and, to a lesser extent Bronzong, Trick Room is pretty bad as a strategy.

I think going for a faster spread and removing any mention of Trick Room is your best bet here, and emphasize this sets ability to lure in its standard checks (Scizor, Gliscor especially) to open the way for something like Lucario to sweep. This allows Tyranitar to be far more self-sufficient, whereas your current set becomes dead weight against a lot of teams when Trick Room isn't up. There are loads of viable EV spreads so it really just comes down to personal preference, but I think the spread I used was like Lonely nature, 160 HP / 172 Atk / 92 SAtk / 84 Spd or something similar. I can't really remember what it specifically outsped, but just looking over it now it outspeeds basically any Choice Band Scizor EV Spread, only being outsped if they run like 60 Spd EVs which nobody does, meaning you can actually lure it and Fire Blast for a KO. It outspeeds Jellicent unless it runs over 88 Spd EVs, and also outspeeds 8 Spd Skarmory so you can KO it before it sets up. Babiri Berry should get a mention since with a -Def nature, Bullet Punches are going to hurt a lot without it. More speed could be useful to outspeed Bulk Up Breloom and SDef Heatran; Tyranitar needs 132 Spd EVs to do this with a neutral Spd nature like Lonely / Adamant.

The old DPP spread is Hasty, 252 Atk / 16 SAtk / 240 Spd with EBelt or Babiri berry, but I feel this spread compromises Tyranitar's ability to take on Lati@s and myriad of other special threats in BW. Its also worth noting that this set is so good in DPP because most Tyranitar's are Choice Scarf, whereas Choiced Tyranitar is far less common in BW, so I feel a bulkier EV Spread with just enough speed for it to function would work better.

As for teammates, Lucario should 100% get a mention as this Tyranitar has a good shot at taking out Jellicent and lures in Gliscor for an OHKO. Bullet Punch Lucario also lures in Terrakion and KOs it allowing Tyranitar to do some work against the opponent's slower Pokemon, however I'm not sure if this really deserves a mention as most Lucario I see seem to use Bullet Punch now, so its not a particularly good Terrakion lure.

I dunno if this set should really be on-site, because as I mentioned its main role in DPP was to bluff Choice sets which aren't particularly common anymore, but I feel that making your set more self-sufficient by dropping some bulk for Spd makes it a much more effective as a lure.
 
These days, with 37.2% of Tyranitar having fire blast, and 23.4% having Ice beam most players won't just throw their Forretress or Gliscor at Ttar, you are going to have to bluff a purely physical set for a few turns before you can lure stuff in. Take PenguinX's advice and remove any mention of Trick room and run more speed. Also this doesn't have perfect coverage, pure water types and fighting types are neutral or resistant to all of this sets moves off the top of my head, so change the name aswell. Anyway this is very similar to the mixed attacker set on site.
 
Two things:
1) run more speed because you're at Tyranitars lowest. Everything and their mother is outspeeding you right now.
2) for the love of god, please just call the set "Mixed"
EDIT: 3) You don't need a Checks and Counters section
 
Actually having a Teammates and Counters section is done by a lot of people. It's for set-specific counters, not Tyranitar counters as a whole.
 
To be honest, everyone in BW uses a Tyranitar with Fire Blast. Chople Berry Tyranitar is common as well, meaning the whole "bluffing" doesn't work well at all, and this is pretty much on the site already..
 
Even though I doubt that it will be QCed Rotom-W, Tentacruel, Infernape, Conkeldurr, Jolteon, Vaporeon, Gastrodon, and Mienshao are all the pokemon in OU that you have not listed that are not hit super effectively. (This does not even include all of the pokemon that can switch in) I don't really have the authority to say this, but if you are unsure of you damage calks and what you can OHKO I am not sure if you are ready to take this next step to write an analysis.
 
he could use some more special attack and maybe thunder to punish sets like drizzle toad and wish vaporeon

scratch that, maxed out spec. attack and thunder or at least thunderbolt to hit vaporeon and politoad
 
instead of a brave nature use a naive nature cus tyranitar spd is increased through sand storm so even if you use a naive nature which lowers spd its negated through sandstream
 
Okay, so I just looked at the Tyranitar analysis on-site and the first set is Mixed Attacker. I then reviewed this set and realized, this is the same thing with some attack EVs and running a fighting move over Stealth Rock. You cant really argue that they play differently because they are both literally called "Mixed Attacker". I really want to know what this set has over the main one and why this doesn't belong in the main set's AC.
 
This is essentially the same as the 'Mixed Attacker' Tyranitar set that already exists on-site. The EV spread listed in the OP leaves much to be desired: if you're going to be using this Tyranitar, it'd probably be played best as a lure, and as such, the EV spread would probably enjoy enough speed to outpace Scizor and such so you can KO them before they KO you.

Another thing I think is worth mentioning is the lack of SR. The current on-site Mixed Attacker has nearly every move the set in your OP has, and can utilize SR as well, allowing it to fill quite a few roles. If you're using the set in the OP, you're going to have to find another Pokemon to lay SR for your team, whereas if you use the Mixed Attacker already on-site, you have a Pokemon that can SR while maintaining the coverage your set provides.

All in all, I don't see a reason to give this its own set considering the similarities it shares with the Mixed Attacker, and am thus rejecting this. I don't see this being approved either, so I'll move it to the L&O forum too. Feel free to submit another set should you ever come up with another!
 
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