An Ubers RMT
Now I know the number of OU players greatly outnumber the Uber players, as the wait period between ladder matches are exceptionally longer, but I guess the extra times buys me time to make it look like im doing my homework.
Anyways, this is a team, that despite me asking left and right for advice, has largely stayed the same throughout its existence. The first time I got into ubers was during an ubers Smogon Tour that coincided with my first days of Shoddy Battle, which I defeated some mod who will remain unnamed, then I saw Fabbles go on to win it and I asked him for help, and he gladly obliged. Unfortunately, my internet went down for some time shortly afterward, so I never really got a chance to use my team. I returned about a week after the implementation of the Platinum changes, and man did they ever ruin me!
It took me about 20 minutes to review the changes and make some adjustments to my team, luckily for all of us, im a fast adapter
So without further a due, here is the team that got me to 3rd on the Smogon Ubers Ladder, although I must admit I don’t really feel like I belong there as many of the great community members below me are only below me because they either don’t play Ubers anymore or, ahh I don’t know
Here we go
Machamp (Deoxys-f) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd/4 SAtk
Hasty nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Extremespeed
- Superpower
- Stealth Rock
- Grass Knot
I forgot to note almost all my pokemon have funky RBY nicknames, and Deoxys’ multi limbs remind me of Machamp to an extent, corny I know, but bear with me.
Anyways, SR support is almost needed in order to stop Sash Pokemon switching in and out laughing at my entire team, and also to make some 2HKO like Lugia’s Ice Beam to Rayquaza to a OHKO.
The attacking moves chosen were due to my experiences with some other Uber leads, including Articanus’s Groudon(major pain), DruggedFox’s Dialga, and max speed lets me tie ExtremeSpeeds with some lead Deoxys, who will occasionally carry Espeed.
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Shellless Lapras (Kyogre) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 240 HP/28 Spd/240 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Thunder
- Water Spout
Not your quintessential wall breaker, but this is as good as it gets. At full health, the main walls in the metagame, Blissey and Lugia don’t stand a chance. Lugia wont live unless it carries Thunder, or the even rarer critical AeroBlast, Blissey is too slow and gets Water Spouted on the Switch, then another one as it cant protect in time to recover. Also my main weather changer against the likes of Groudon and Tyranitar.
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Pink Dragonite (Palkia) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Spd/252 SAtk/6 SpDef
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Draco Meteor
- Surf
- Thunder
- Spacial Rend
My main revenge killer, and while Scarf Dialga may seem to be better in terms of resistances, Dialga is already taken on my team, AND, scarf palkia can outspeed Jolly Rayquaza with One Dragon Dance, who would otherwise be unstoppable. Mewtwo and Darkrai, 2 of the fastest pokemon in existence, don’t stand a chance against Draco Meteor or Surf under the rain. Although if this is the last pokemon against an enemy Dialga and the Dialga has more health than Draco Meteor can destroy, ill be doomed, but ideally that situation would be avoided.
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Tauros with Jewelry (Dialga) @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 SDef
Careful nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Bulk Up
- Substitute
- Magnet Rise
- Outrage
The amounts of counters to this, by the truest definition of the word is 2. Groudon and Metagross. You might think, what if another steel type like Skarmory or Forresstress come in? Come on now, what could either of them do to me? Even Jirachi will be worn down with enough Bulk Ups under by belt, and Jirachi isn’t fazing me anything soon. Also my toxic absorber, Lati twins stopper, but I must be near full health and it must be an immediate switch, unless I receive some parasupport from…
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Giant Farfetch'd (Lugia) @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 136 HP/124 Def/248 Spd/2 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Thunder Wave
- Roost
- Reflect
Ahh a GSC legend. The way it seems these days, Celebi is more used than either Lugia, or its faint cousin Ho-oh, who is nowhere to be seen. Lugia serves several purposes that itll be hard to find another replacement for. Due to the influx of Scarf Palkia and Scarf Dialga, Lugia is the perfect switch in to Twave them or the switch in, as Lugia is basically a dragon resist with a Calm nature, I mean I take like 20 percent from a ScarfDialga Dragon Pulse. The Evs given in speed let me outspeed Max Speed Jolly Rayquaza by a point, and even with SR I will live the Espeed, or it chooses Outrage, with my own SR up, it wont get the chance to attack me. Also outstalls EVERY Groudon Variant but one, and that’s the one that has(hope Absol doesn’t read this) both Rock Polish AND Stone Edge, at which point I wont be able to Roost off the Damage in time, and that’s bad. Otherwise, Im faster than Groudon and can take Stone Edges like a machine, at least behind a Reflect. Then I just outstall with Ice Beam. Runs into trouble with SpecsKyogre, but who doesn’t? In that situation, I would Twave it to make it basically useless, aka my Dialga will be faster and can outrage it, severly dropping Water Spout some notches. Could be replaceable, but I like the GSC representation and it hasn’t done anything to warrant a replacement except for inviting SpecsKyogre(again, who doesn’t) and TauntMew2(Extinct) or Darkrai to come in. Come to think of it, that’s quite a list of unwanted guests!
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Shiny Ekans (Rayquaza) @ Life Orb
Ability: Air Lock
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd/4 SDef
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Extremespeed
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance
Perhaps the biggest threat in all of Ubers, this can 5-0 entire teams if played correctly(I assume my Deoxys to be dead real fast) The reason why I use Dragon Dance instead of the seemingly better Swords Dance is because from my experience, there comes a time when Swords Dance Rayquaza’s only attack is ExtremeSpeed, and that runs into trouble with Scarf Steel Types, most notably the new ScarfDialga. I expect to come in on a Thunder that targeted my Lugia or Kyogre, and most will be unwilling to try another thunder as I can survive one(not specs, but the accuracy is the throw-offer.) I Dragon Dance, at which point the only things that can stop me are my Scarf Palkia, if I get caught on an Outrage by a Metagross that can take 2 outrages and still live somehow, or Scarf Darkrai/Mewtwo (Again, 2 extinct species). Also Groudon can be a huge problem as well as some Lugia that have 3 tons of Def Evs just to survive a +1 Life Orb Outrage. But try it out and it will not disappoint in the right hands, as it can singlehandedly bring you back from large deficits, courtesy of one particular Train Man experience….
Its not the best of teams, that’s for sure, as I lose quite frequently(or perhaps its because im bad. But that’s what this RMT is for!. For you supposed master raters to help me figure out some weak areas, as clearly there are billions of errors. Feel free to copy it, but I assure you you’ll be better off building your own team as this team sucks so bad.
The Uber Threat List
Wobbuffet:….
Mewtwo: Unpredicatble, taunts Lugia’s attempts to cripple, but generally Kyogre can survive Thunders to KO with Surf or bring it in KO range for Deo Xspeed, Quaza Xspeed, or Palkia
Mew: Baton Passing Mew with Rock Polish cannot be stopped, so lets try not to use it people…
Groudon: Lugia takes on almost all variants, but it can be worn down by Groudon
Kyogre: Specs Kyogre WILL take down at least one pokemon, and most likely will switch in to my Lugia, so I cripple with Twave and let Dialga have some fun with Outrage
Rayquaza: Lugia either Ice Beams SDRay, or forces DDRay into Outrage as I wont die to any other attack, so it can be revenge killed by Palkia. Nothing can really switch into an Outrage, so like SpecsKyogre, it will take down at least one pokemon
DeoxysA: Most lead versions are Espeeded by my own Deoxys, if it doesn’t win the speed tie, then revenge kill with Palkia or Rayquaza
DeoxysD: Dialga to take Toxic, Kyogre to Water Spout
Ho-oh: SR halves its HP, Kyogre can survive most assaults to KO with Surf
Lugia: Kyogre Surf/Water Spout
Celebi: Annoying, but can be beaten easily with Patience
Jirachi: Kyogre Surfs, Palkia Surfs, Rayquaza Earthquakes
Dialga: I lack Groudon, so Bulk Up Dialga will give me problems unless I can wear it down with Lugia behind a reflect, who once remarkably only took 40 percent from a Dragon Claw behind a reflect, however Outrage will not be so kind…
Palkia: Lugia can take most versions as long as it avoids a Thunder, Twave it, Dialga can also take those without Specs AuraSphere
Latias/ Latios: Dialga can take 1 Dragon Pulse/Maybe Meteor? And KO with Outrage, otherwise TWave with Lugia and Outrage with Ray, these 2 could be potentially devastating
Darkrai: Dialga to take sleep, run off to Kyogre for Thunderless versions or Palkia, but a switch in to Spacial Rend is a tragedy
Giratina Land Form: Dialga can normally outstall with resttalking outrage, otherwise a Palkia Draco Meteor/Rayquaza Outrage says good night
Giratina Origin Form: More threatening than the orginal(heh) Giratina, but takes hits worse, again, Dialga/Palkia/Rayquaza
Blissey: Kyogre 2HKO with Water Spout, BU Dialga, last resort Rayquaza
Metagross: Kyogre can take Meteor Mashes and OHKO with Surf
Tyranitar: Kyogre can eliminate SandStorm Boost and KO with Surf, or Rayquaza EQ
Scizor: Kyogre resists Bullet Punch, is faster and KO with Surf
Skarmory: could be dangerous because I lack a strong Fire type move, If Kyogre Dies then I go to Palkia, if Palkia is down then im done fore
Forresstress: See Skarmory
Bronzong: See Skarmory
Heracross: Lugia behind a reflect can stall out Stone Edges, otherwise Palkia can revenge kill, altho I doubt it will be talking out anything on my team
Garchomp: Lugia can take Scarf Variants, however Banded versions are a different story, hopefully Lugia can set up a reflect and Palkia can revenge with Spacial Rend
Manaphy: Kyogre Thunder, Palkia Thunder, or a dirty trick I like to play, switch to Rayquaza as it Rests, free Dragon Dance, lol
Dugtrio: Like Wobbuffet, uncounterable, can only be revenged, esp if I get caught on Kyogre or Palkia Thunder
Weavile: Not really worried, Lugia takes minimal damage from even his STAB attacks, set up reflect, switch to Dialga or Kyogre who can usually handed him
Shedinja: IM 6-0ed by it if the other team rapid spins, so Im looking to add a fire attack on team somewhere, even though the only weather on my team is rain. Perhaps Overheat Rayquaza, or Fire Blast Mewtwo?
Heatran: Kyogre, Palkia, Surf it to the center of the Earth
So, In conclusion, the biggest threats to my team are
1. Baton Passing Mew, with Rock Polish
2. Dark Void Nasty Plot Darkrai
3. Rock Polish Groudon
4. Scarf Dialga is always a big pain
5. Skarm/Zong/Forry
6. Shedinja
As previously stated, I’ve had a lot of help in the development of this team, largely from some of the greats. Even with their expertise, it still sucks, but its in no way their fault, and can be blamed on my lack of skill. So, in no particular order:
Articanus, DruggedFox, Absol, Ike123, Fabbles, Jibaku, Rayku(tho he was mostly hindering, but just to be nice…), Train Man for all the great(identical) experiences
And also to anyone I stomped on my ascension to superstardom, lol kidding, I’d be the first to tell you the names I stated above and many others are better battlers
Now I know the number of OU players greatly outnumber the Uber players, as the wait period between ladder matches are exceptionally longer, but I guess the extra times buys me time to make it look like im doing my homework.
Anyways, this is a team, that despite me asking left and right for advice, has largely stayed the same throughout its existence. The first time I got into ubers was during an ubers Smogon Tour that coincided with my first days of Shoddy Battle, which I defeated some mod who will remain unnamed, then I saw Fabbles go on to win it and I asked him for help, and he gladly obliged. Unfortunately, my internet went down for some time shortly afterward, so I never really got a chance to use my team. I returned about a week after the implementation of the Platinum changes, and man did they ever ruin me!
It took me about 20 minutes to review the changes and make some adjustments to my team, luckily for all of us, im a fast adapter
So without further a due, here is the team that got me to 3rd on the Smogon Ubers Ladder, although I must admit I don’t really feel like I belong there as many of the great community members below me are only below me because they either don’t play Ubers anymore or, ahh I don’t know
Here we go
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd/4 SAtk
Hasty nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Extremespeed
- Superpower
- Stealth Rock
- Grass Knot
I forgot to note almost all my pokemon have funky RBY nicknames, and Deoxys’ multi limbs remind me of Machamp to an extent, corny I know, but bear with me.
Anyways, SR support is almost needed in order to stop Sash Pokemon switching in and out laughing at my entire team, and also to make some 2HKO like Lugia’s Ice Beam to Rayquaza to a OHKO.
The attacking moves chosen were due to my experiences with some other Uber leads, including Articanus’s Groudon(major pain), DruggedFox’s Dialga, and max speed lets me tie ExtremeSpeeds with some lead Deoxys, who will occasionally carry Espeed.
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Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 240 HP/28 Spd/240 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Thunder
- Water Spout
Not your quintessential wall breaker, but this is as good as it gets. At full health, the main walls in the metagame, Blissey and Lugia don’t stand a chance. Lugia wont live unless it carries Thunder, or the even rarer critical AeroBlast, Blissey is too slow and gets Water Spouted on the Switch, then another one as it cant protect in time to recover. Also my main weather changer against the likes of Groudon and Tyranitar.
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Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Spd/252 SAtk/6 SpDef
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Draco Meteor
- Surf
- Thunder
- Spacial Rend
My main revenge killer, and while Scarf Dialga may seem to be better in terms of resistances, Dialga is already taken on my team, AND, scarf palkia can outspeed Jolly Rayquaza with One Dragon Dance, who would otherwise be unstoppable. Mewtwo and Darkrai, 2 of the fastest pokemon in existence, don’t stand a chance against Draco Meteor or Surf under the rain. Although if this is the last pokemon against an enemy Dialga and the Dialga has more health than Draco Meteor can destroy, ill be doomed, but ideally that situation would be avoided.
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Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 SDef
Careful nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Bulk Up
- Substitute
- Magnet Rise
- Outrage
The amounts of counters to this, by the truest definition of the word is 2. Groudon and Metagross. You might think, what if another steel type like Skarmory or Forresstress come in? Come on now, what could either of them do to me? Even Jirachi will be worn down with enough Bulk Ups under by belt, and Jirachi isn’t fazing me anything soon. Also my toxic absorber, Lati twins stopper, but I must be near full health and it must be an immediate switch, unless I receive some parasupport from…
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Ability: Pressure
EVs: 136 HP/124 Def/248 Spd/2 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Thunder Wave
- Roost
- Reflect
Ahh a GSC legend. The way it seems these days, Celebi is more used than either Lugia, or its faint cousin Ho-oh, who is nowhere to be seen. Lugia serves several purposes that itll be hard to find another replacement for. Due to the influx of Scarf Palkia and Scarf Dialga, Lugia is the perfect switch in to Twave them or the switch in, as Lugia is basically a dragon resist with a Calm nature, I mean I take like 20 percent from a ScarfDialga Dragon Pulse. The Evs given in speed let me outspeed Max Speed Jolly Rayquaza by a point, and even with SR I will live the Espeed, or it chooses Outrage, with my own SR up, it wont get the chance to attack me. Also outstalls EVERY Groudon Variant but one, and that’s the one that has(hope Absol doesn’t read this) both Rock Polish AND Stone Edge, at which point I wont be able to Roost off the Damage in time, and that’s bad. Otherwise, Im faster than Groudon and can take Stone Edges like a machine, at least behind a Reflect. Then I just outstall with Ice Beam. Runs into trouble with SpecsKyogre, but who doesn’t? In that situation, I would Twave it to make it basically useless, aka my Dialga will be faster and can outrage it, severly dropping Water Spout some notches. Could be replaceable, but I like the GSC representation and it hasn’t done anything to warrant a replacement except for inviting SpecsKyogre(again, who doesn’t) and TauntMew2(Extinct) or Darkrai to come in. Come to think of it, that’s quite a list of unwanted guests!
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Ability: Air Lock
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd/4 SDef
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Extremespeed
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance
Perhaps the biggest threat in all of Ubers, this can 5-0 entire teams if played correctly(I assume my Deoxys to be dead real fast) The reason why I use Dragon Dance instead of the seemingly better Swords Dance is because from my experience, there comes a time when Swords Dance Rayquaza’s only attack is ExtremeSpeed, and that runs into trouble with Scarf Steel Types, most notably the new ScarfDialga. I expect to come in on a Thunder that targeted my Lugia or Kyogre, and most will be unwilling to try another thunder as I can survive one(not specs, but the accuracy is the throw-offer.) I Dragon Dance, at which point the only things that can stop me are my Scarf Palkia, if I get caught on an Outrage by a Metagross that can take 2 outrages and still live somehow, or Scarf Darkrai/Mewtwo (Again, 2 extinct species). Also Groudon can be a huge problem as well as some Lugia that have 3 tons of Def Evs just to survive a +1 Life Orb Outrage. But try it out and it will not disappoint in the right hands, as it can singlehandedly bring you back from large deficits, courtesy of one particular Train Man experience….
Its not the best of teams, that’s for sure, as I lose quite frequently(or perhaps its because im bad. But that’s what this RMT is for!. For you supposed master raters to help me figure out some weak areas, as clearly there are billions of errors. Feel free to copy it, but I assure you you’ll be better off building your own team as this team sucks so bad.
The Uber Threat List
Wobbuffet:….
Mewtwo: Unpredicatble, taunts Lugia’s attempts to cripple, but generally Kyogre can survive Thunders to KO with Surf or bring it in KO range for Deo Xspeed, Quaza Xspeed, or Palkia
Mew: Baton Passing Mew with Rock Polish cannot be stopped, so lets try not to use it people…
Groudon: Lugia takes on almost all variants, but it can be worn down by Groudon
Kyogre: Specs Kyogre WILL take down at least one pokemon, and most likely will switch in to my Lugia, so I cripple with Twave and let Dialga have some fun with Outrage
Rayquaza: Lugia either Ice Beams SDRay, or forces DDRay into Outrage as I wont die to any other attack, so it can be revenge killed by Palkia. Nothing can really switch into an Outrage, so like SpecsKyogre, it will take down at least one pokemon
DeoxysA: Most lead versions are Espeeded by my own Deoxys, if it doesn’t win the speed tie, then revenge kill with Palkia or Rayquaza
DeoxysD: Dialga to take Toxic, Kyogre to Water Spout
Ho-oh: SR halves its HP, Kyogre can survive most assaults to KO with Surf
Lugia: Kyogre Surf/Water Spout
Celebi: Annoying, but can be beaten easily with Patience
Jirachi: Kyogre Surfs, Palkia Surfs, Rayquaza Earthquakes
Dialga: I lack Groudon, so Bulk Up Dialga will give me problems unless I can wear it down with Lugia behind a reflect, who once remarkably only took 40 percent from a Dragon Claw behind a reflect, however Outrage will not be so kind…
Palkia: Lugia can take most versions as long as it avoids a Thunder, Twave it, Dialga can also take those without Specs AuraSphere
Latias/ Latios: Dialga can take 1 Dragon Pulse/Maybe Meteor? And KO with Outrage, otherwise TWave with Lugia and Outrage with Ray, these 2 could be potentially devastating
Darkrai: Dialga to take sleep, run off to Kyogre for Thunderless versions or Palkia, but a switch in to Spacial Rend is a tragedy
Giratina Land Form: Dialga can normally outstall with resttalking outrage, otherwise a Palkia Draco Meteor/Rayquaza Outrage says good night
Giratina Origin Form: More threatening than the orginal(heh) Giratina, but takes hits worse, again, Dialga/Palkia/Rayquaza
Blissey: Kyogre 2HKO with Water Spout, BU Dialga, last resort Rayquaza
Metagross: Kyogre can take Meteor Mashes and OHKO with Surf
Tyranitar: Kyogre can eliminate SandStorm Boost and KO with Surf, or Rayquaza EQ
Scizor: Kyogre resists Bullet Punch, is faster and KO with Surf
Skarmory: could be dangerous because I lack a strong Fire type move, If Kyogre Dies then I go to Palkia, if Palkia is down then im done fore
Forresstress: See Skarmory
Bronzong: See Skarmory
Heracross: Lugia behind a reflect can stall out Stone Edges, otherwise Palkia can revenge kill, altho I doubt it will be talking out anything on my team
Garchomp: Lugia can take Scarf Variants, however Banded versions are a different story, hopefully Lugia can set up a reflect and Palkia can revenge with Spacial Rend
Manaphy: Kyogre Thunder, Palkia Thunder, or a dirty trick I like to play, switch to Rayquaza as it Rests, free Dragon Dance, lol
Dugtrio: Like Wobbuffet, uncounterable, can only be revenged, esp if I get caught on Kyogre or Palkia Thunder
Weavile: Not really worried, Lugia takes minimal damage from even his STAB attacks, set up reflect, switch to Dialga or Kyogre who can usually handed him
Shedinja: IM 6-0ed by it if the other team rapid spins, so Im looking to add a fire attack on team somewhere, even though the only weather on my team is rain. Perhaps Overheat Rayquaza, or Fire Blast Mewtwo?
Heatran: Kyogre, Palkia, Surf it to the center of the Earth
So, In conclusion, the biggest threats to my team are
1. Baton Passing Mew, with Rock Polish
2. Dark Void Nasty Plot Darkrai
3. Rock Polish Groudon
4. Scarf Dialga is always a big pain
5. Skarm/Zong/Forry
6. Shedinja
As previously stated, I’ve had a lot of help in the development of this team, largely from some of the greats. Even with their expertise, it still sucks, but its in no way their fault, and can be blamed on my lack of skill. So, in no particular order:
Articanus, DruggedFox, Absol, Ike123, Fabbles, Jibaku, Rayku(tho he was mostly hindering, but just to be nice…), Train Man for all the great(identical) experiences
And also to anyone I stomped on my ascension to superstardom, lol kidding, I’d be the first to tell you the names I stated above and many others are better battlers
