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...ugh not ANOTHER Offensive Team

zukirin

Like all offensive teams, this team designed to keep the pressure up on the opponent, keep the threat of a big hit alive as much as possible and hit as hard as possible every turn.

Now without a further ado, my team:
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Azelf @ Focus Sash
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Naive
EV: 252 SpA/252 Spe/6 Atk
~Stealth Rock
~Taunt
~Explosion
~Psychic

Azelf is an awesome lead. Its main job is to lay stealth rocks ASAP and try to take down at least one pokemon or to totally make useless one pokemon.


Here is a list of leads and my "Order of Operations"
  1. Bronzong (19359 leads) Taunt then SR, sometimes I die in the process because the player is smart and Gyro Balls me to death. I then send in Gengar to put to sleep and such.
  2. Gengar (14095 leads) I will always Psychic on a Gengar lead. If they are Scarf, I survive a Shadow Ball and they get OHKO'd OR they will Hypnosis and I am asleep which is not much of a problem since I can afford Azelf to be asleep. If they are anything else I Outspeed and OHKO unless they are sash also where I still will in.
  3. Gyarados (10937 leads) I will SR all the time. They willl do either Taunt which is useless since I already layed SR, Waterfall which I survive, or DD which is still fine. If the opponent used Taunt, I will use Psychic, which will do around 44% followed by an explosion. Other wise I will use Explosion right off the bat which has a chance of OHKO.
  4. Tyranitar (9347 leads) This is probably the hardest lead to handle (although I havent faced any yet), however if I did I would just SR and die to Crunch and SS. Switch in Deoxys and revenge kill.
  5. Azelf (9331 leads) Another annoying lead. I will SR 100%, try my luck for the speed tie to break Sash with Psychic (if it is like my azelf).
  6. Salamence (7556 leads) SR, then depend on my Hp explode or Psychic; if my Hp can afford 2 hits and my opponent didnt DD I will use Psychic. If he DD's or hurt me already I will use Explosion.
  7. Roserade (6331 leads) Taunt, hopefully the opponent used Toxic Spikes or Sleep Powder and wastes a turn. Then I will SR while the opponent either Grass Knots for a 20% or Leaf Storm for a 2HKO due to Sash while any other Hidden Power will 3HKO.
  8. Hippowdon (5772 leads) Taunt, SR, Psychic not much I can do here due to Sandstorm.
  9. Ninjask (5664 leads) I will always SR because they might use protect. Then I will use Taunt, and Psychic/Explode. Then I will switch to Lucario if is sashed and use bullet Punch
  10. Yanmega (5610 leads) I will always use SR because most Yanmega's use Protect on the first turn, then I survive their Bug Buzz and will use Psychic which takes out around 86+% of their hp.
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Metagross @ Choice Band
Ability: Clear Body
Nature: Adamant
EV's 136 HP/252 Atk/116 Def/4 Spe
~Pursuit
~Meteor Mash
~EQ
~Explosion

CBGross is AMAZING. I love it! It is my somewhat Deoxys-S Counter since almost all of Deoxy's attacks do at most 30ish% (unless they use Hidden Power Fire). Then I will use Pursuit which OHKO's on the switch, OHKO's if it used Superpower, and do around at average 87% if it stays in without the - Def of Superpower. EV's gives it max attack for maximum damage, 4 spe to outspeed all base 70's like skarm (Not sure if this is necessary), and the Hp and Def EV's came from X-ACt's defense applet. Although I did run some calcs and it can survive an Adamant ScarfChomp EQ with 79.10% - 93.13%. Not to mention for last measures it can Explode which ALWAYS OHKO's BRONZONG UNLESS IT RUNS 252 HP/252 DEF. Thats just an example of the immense power of a CB Gross

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Salamence @ Choice Specs
Ability: Intimidate
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 SpA/6 Def/252 Spe
~Draco Meteor
~Flamethrower/Fire Blast
~Dragon Pulse
~Hydro Pump

From a somewhat useless DDmence, here comes the beast!! SpecsMence is an unbelievably powerful pokemon. It can ohko and hurt so many pokemon it is not even funny. This takes care of Zapdos, Swampert, Gyarados and hurts everything else bad. Only Blissey can come in without worrying too much about the damage which is great since almost all the rest of my pokemo can handle her fine.

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Gengar @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Timid
EVs: 40 Atk/216 SAtk/252 Spe
~Explosion
~Hypnosis
~Shadow Ball
~Focus Blast

The same Gengar in Husk's team. I tried other gengar's but oh my, this is the best one! So far this is my favorite Gengar overall right now, and for good reason. Shadow Ball and Focus Blast hits everything for neutral at least, Hypnosis to cripple someone, and Explosion for Blissey as well as for his final attack.


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Lucario @ Life Orb
Ability: Inner Focus
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
~Bullet Punch
~Extremespeed
~Close Combat
~Swords Dance

Whats an offensive team without this? It is one of the most threatening physical pokemon in the metagame! After an SD, this OHKO's Gengar and Mismagius who would otherwise outspeed and deal a damaging blow if I had crunch instead. Although it makes it somewhat useless against Cresselia, I still have Metagross to handle that Space Duck. Also with the 2 Priority moves, I can get those Ninjasks, Deoxys-S, and yanmega that my other members cannot outspeed or deal with.


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Deoxys-S Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Hasty
EVs: 156 Atk/100 Spe/252 SAtk
~Ice Beam
~Thunderbolt
~Psychic
~Superpower

Just like Lucario, what's an offensive team without the best revenge killer in the game? The extra spe ev allows it to outspeed standards by one point although it still has no way of dealing with them <.<. Nothing much to say since other than that extra Speed EV, it is standard

Threats List (OU)
  1. Garchomp - Ugh hate these things <.< it pretty much depends on who is in at the moment. I will always be switching in Deoxys-S though if Garchomp KOs the pokemon that is in.
  2. Gengar - Azelf can take care of non Scarf'd variants and of course, Deoxys and Lucario can revenge kill (Lucairo can if it is below 50%)
  3. Gyarados - Another pain, I usually send in Salamence if Lucario or Metagross is in, and use it as a sacrifice. Then send in Deoxys to revenge kill.
  4. Bronzong - Not as much a pain as Garchomp and Gyarados but still somewhat a pain. If it is a lead I send in Gengar after Azelf is finished off and put it to sleep, if it is in the middle of the match I will usually send in Salamence.
  5. Tyranitar - As a lead this is annoying, as it OHKO's Azelf after I just put up SR, then I send in Lucario or Deoxys.
  6. Blissey - All of my pokemon can deal with the whore. Gengar can explode, Metagross can meteor mash, Deoxys will Super Power (However I migh switch depending on the HP of blissey because I dont want to risk a T-Wave), Luke can CC, etc..
  7. Lucario - Switch to Salamence, nothing else to say.
  8. Heatran - All my pokemon can outspeed it BUT for Deoxys, if it is at full HP I will switch to Salamence. If I dont feel lucky with Focus Blast I will switch to salamence as well.
  9. Salamence - If I have no safe switch ins, I sacrifice Salamence and revenge kill with Deoxys otherwise, I can usually send in Gengar and sleep it. If someone is asleep already, and I can afford to, I will use Explosion.
  10. Infernape - Switch in Salamence investigate its moveset, DD along the way and EQ.
  11. Celebi - lol again switch in Salamence to take what ever in can dish out. However if for some reason Celebi is already out on Gengar, I will Shadow Ball.
  12. Metagross - Switch in Salamence, DD and sweep
  13. Starmie - Metagross can handle this pretty well. I could pursuit and nail it hard either way.
  14. Swampert - Swampert is another difficult one. again it depends on who is in. If it is not gengar I switch in Salamence or if I can afford to explode, I will do that with Metagross also.
  15. Gliscor - Everyone except Salamence, and Lucario can handle it well especially Deoxys and Gengar.
  16. Vaporeon - I can usually deal some major damage before it gets ko'd by surf or ICe Beam for my next pokemon to come in and ko
  17. Weavile - Send in Metagross and Meteor Mash unless I know their pokemon and will act accordingly.
  18. Skarmory - My Sp Sweepers can handle it well and after an SD under my belt, Lucario can nail it extremely hard with a Close Combat, Also as a last resort I can Explode with Metagross dealing 85%+ damage.
  19. Azelf - As a lead, I will just tango around with it with SR, and Psychic and possibly even an Explosion if the azelf is open. Otherwise I will usually send in Salamence to take the hit as a sacrifice and probably revenge Kill with Lucario.
  20. Forretress - If I can, I will send in Azelf to taunt, or send in gengar to Sleep.
  21. Heracross - Almost always send in Salamence, to take the hit. Then depending on the move, I will DD or Fire Fang.
  22. Zapdos - Ugh another pain. Sometimes I actually sacrifice Deoxys-S to try and ko this with Ice Beam, or I can send in gengar to Sleep/Explode. I can even send in Salamence and Dragon Claw if necessary.
  23. Deoxys-e - Metagross nuff said.
  24. Togekiss - getting tiring but again I will almost always send in Salamence to take a blow and deal a blow back before it gets ko'd where I can switch to something else to deal with it. Also if gengar is in I can sleep it, or explode. If Lucario has an SD I will CC.
  25. Electivire - Salamence AGAIN, since it is the safest switch. if Gengar is in then I will Shadow Ball or sleep if I can.
  26. Cresselia - Metagross can handle this very well since it doesnt mind T-wave so much and is resistant to Ice Beam and Psychic.
  27. Magnezone - If it traps Metagross then I have nothing else that I can do. With everyone else, I can deal with it.
  28. Suicune - Another pain. I usually have to sacrifice Metagross with an explosion to deal with this or if I catch it sleeping I can send in Lucario to get some free SD's.
  29. Snorlax - Snorlax is hit hard by everything on my team. Gengar can sleep it, and Focus Blast if I cant afford an Explosion. Metagross can Meteor Mash, Salamence can DD up and Dragon Claw, Luke lol, Azelf can explode.
  30. Jirachi - If my pokemon that is out is threatened, I switch in Salamence. Otherwise if Gengar is out I will sleep or Shadow Ball it. If Metagross, I will EQ. If Deoxys switch to metagross or Salamence.
  31. Scizor - Free switch to Salamence, and DD/Fire Fang.
  32. Machamp - Ugh who doesnt hate this thing. If Gengar is in, Sleep it or Explode. if Metagross is in, Meteor Mash, if Salamence, Dragon Claw, If Azelf/Deoxys psychic, if luke, switch to Salamence or
  33. Wobbuffet - No Comment
  34. Dusknoir - Hmm Because of WoW this scares me somewhat. If Gengar is already in I will sleep or Shadow Ball, if Salamence then Dragon Claw, if Metagross Meteor Mash, If Luke, switch to Azelf or Gengar.
  35. Tentacruel - Metagoss again.
  36. Breloom - This thing is annoying. If anyone except Metagross is out I can OHKO/Hit it hard.
  37. Roserade - Almost always a lead, I will taunt, SR, and psychic. If not a lead, I switch in Salamence or Metagross.
  38. Yanmega - Again, used mainly as a lead, I will just try to out predict with Psychic. Otherwise I can send in Lucario as a Revenge Kller.
  39. Hippowdon - Mainly a lead which Azelf can take care of somewhat well.
  40. Mamoswine - Without Bronzong my team is....MAMO WEAK!!! :p All I can do is try to outpredict.
  41. Porygonz - I can switch in Metagross without worries and threaten with all my moves.
  42. Dragonite - Havent encountered this yet so I dunno how to exactly act around it but I think I usually send in Salamence (lol) as a sacrfice and revenge kill with Deoxys.
  43. Gallade - I can afford to switch in metagross into almost all its moves except CC and kill with Pursuit OR I can switch in either Gengar if it manages to ko someone to revenge kill.
  44. Spiritomb - This is a pain. I always switch in Salamence and damage is as much as possible or even ko it. If Salamence gets ko'd I switch in MEtagross to Meteor Mash and ko.
  45. Jolteon - Metagross :D
  46. Donphan - Gengar can sleep, Azelf can taunt/immune to EQ, Deoxys can ICe Beam, and Metagross can Meteor Mash.
  47. Milotic - Again, havent faced this but I can probablly send in Gengar to sleep or even Explode.
  48. Dugtrio - If Luke is in, ES and die, if Metagross, Survive Eq and ko with Meteor mash, if Deoxys I think its bye bye If Gengar, I will Sleep, and if Azelf explode probably.
Thanks for reading this somewhat long RMT and thanks in advance for your help. This is my first serious team in a very long time and is my first successful-ish team ever since my battle "slump." I hope you like it and thanks again :D
 
You said your Deoxys-S outspeeds other Deoxys by 1 point yet can't do anything to them, if so, why not replace Pyschic for Shadow Ball you lose the STAB but you can OHKO opposing DX-S. Also, you can replace Salamence for Garchomp but if you do, run the SD Yache Chomp. It will do the things Salamence was suppose to do but better. You also have a Thunderwave immunity now, which should be on every offensive team since you will get screwed if you don't.
 
Sikh Assassin said:
You said your Deoxys-S outspeeds other Deoxys by 1 point yet can't do anything to them, if so, why not replace Pyschic for Shadow Ball you lose the STAB but you can OHKO opposing DX-S.
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Ya I noticed that outspeed the other deoxys was useless xD I was thinking of changing Psychic for Shadow Ball as well... hmm I might try it.

Sikh Assassin said:
Also, you can replace Salamence for Garchomp but if you do, run the SD Yache Chomp. It will do the things Salamence was suppose to do but better. You also have a Thunderwave immunity now, which should be on every offensive team since you will get screwed if you don't.
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As for Garchomp, I am trying to stray away from it since, like pulse, I am mainly gonna use this on pokebeach where garchomp is banned, but other than that I could change it for my off PB battles.

Thanks for the comments.
 
this reminds me a lot of husks offensive team, except taunt sr azelf over taunt sr aero, cb gross over cb chomp, and ddlo mence over ddlo gyara.
all your pokemon fill the same roles, except they're different pokemon.

anyways, I'd just max the speed on deoxys. one tihng I've actually been playing around with was max speed / spa timid with focus blast over superpower. it ko's scarftran and magnezone and stuff, while losing out on bliss and lax, who don't get 2HKO'd either. you may want to try it.
 
I worry about your threat list. Not everything is right and valid. You mention Salamence a lot, yet he doesn't wall Bold Zapdos, who almost always carries HP Ice. And without HP Ice, there is no way your Lucario is going to beat Gliscor. [Edit: upon further examination, you should probably switch around the Gliscor threat sentence- not to be a grammar nazi, but it is misleading].

Metagross doesn't counter SubPetaya Jolteon because Jolteon can thunderbolt the switch, Sub as Metagross Earthquakes, and once the Petaya Berry activates, finish off your Metagross. There are many other issues, I would look through your threat list again. I like how you used the Shoddy OU list from June to form your team, though.

Right now, CM Celebi could give you some problems. I'll assume for now that Azelf is out of the question, as you usually blow him up early game. CM Celebi can just set up on Lucario and Metagross, and Salamence fears coming in to eat a HP Ice. Since he forces switches, Celebi is basically getting a free CM, and after that, Deoxys can be outstalled as Ice Beam is only a 3HKO. Only Gengar can stop him, but occasionally you will run into Celebi's who carry Psychic. You will most likely have to sacrifice Metagross to stop this beast from slowly picking it's way through your team. It's not a huge threat, but something to watch out for.

I understand that your team is based off of revenge killing, but your Salamence doesn't do too much right now. You don't have to be able to beat Blissey with every pokemon, you know. I would change it to a Specsmence, who OHKO's even Swampert and Zapdos with Draco Meteor. The extreme power means that if your opponent isn't carrying a Blissey or Empoleon, they have to rely on prediction and hope that they won't be OHKO'ed by a smart move choice. Draco Meteor is also a OHKO on Gyarados, who you mentioned as a problem. It isn't too safe of a switch in, but it helps to be able to OHKO as they switch in.
 
Stathakis said:
this reminds me a lot of husks offensive team, except taunt sr azelf over taunt sr aero, cb gross over cb chomp, and ddlo mence over ddlo gyara.
all your pokemon fill the same roles, except they're different pokemon.

anyways, I'd just max the speed on deoxys. one tihng I've actually been playing around with was max speed / spa timid with focus blast over superpower. it ko's scarftran and magnezone and stuff, while losing out on bliss and lax, who don't get 2HKO'd either. you may want to try it.
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But isnt the Accuracy somewhat of a let down? Other than that, the set sounds interesting and I might go playing with it on shoddy.

Kingdrom said:
I worry about your threat list. Not everything is right and valid. You mention Salamence a lot, yet he doesn't wall Bold Zapdos, who almost always carries HP Ice. And without HP Ice, there is no way your Lucario is going to beat Gliscor. [Edit: upon further examination, you should probably switch around the Gliscor threat sentence- not to be a grammar nazi, but it is misleading].

Metagross doesn't counter SubPetaya Jolteon because Jolteon can thunderbolt the switch, Sub as Metagross Earthquakes, and once the Petaya Berry activates, finish off your Metagross. There are many other issues, I would look through your threat list again. I like how you used the Shoddy OU list from June to form your team, though.

Right now, CM Celebi could give you some problems. I'll assume for now that Azelf is out of the question, as you usually blow him up early game. CM Celebi can just set up on Lucario and Metagross, and Salamence fears coming in to eat a HP Ice. Since he forces switches, Celebi is basically getting a free CM, and after that, Deoxys can be outstalled as Ice Beam is only a 3HKO. Only Gengar can stop him, but occasionally you will run into Celebi's who carry Psychic. You will most likely have to sacrifice Metagross to stop this beast from slowly picking it's way through your team. It's not a huge threat, but something to watch out for.

I understand that your team is based off of revenge killing, but your Salamence doesn't do too much right now. You don't have to be able to beat Blissey with every pokemon, you know. I would change it to a Specsmence, who OHKO's even Swampert and Zapdos with Draco Meteor. The extreme power means that if your opponent isn't carrying a Blissey or Empoleon, they have to rely on prediction and hope that they won't be OHKO'ed by a smart move choice. Draco Meteor is also a OHKO on Gyarados, who you mentioned as a problem. It isn't too safe of a switch in, but it helps to be able to OHKO as they switch in.
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Specsmence eh? Never thought of that, and I cant take care of bronzong somewhat without Gengar so Flamethrower will be there also. I am gonna change the Salamence right now for that.

Thanks to both of you.
 
Dugtrio tears your team apart like almost nothing.

An Extremespeed will never OHKO Dugtrio without a swords dance, even with Stealth Rock support. If you don't get up your rocks, it kills you, because of Sucker Punch laying out Azelf, Deoxys and Gengar, and Earthquake will lay out a Lucario with ease.

I'm not sure how to fix that, I'm just pointing out
 
remix01 said:
Dugtrio tears your team apart like almost nothing.

An Extremespeed will never OHKO Dugtrio without a swords dance, even with Stealth Rock support. If you don't get up your rocks, it kills you, because of Sucker Punch laying out Azelf, Deoxys and Gengar, and Earthquake will lay out a Lucario with ease.

I'm not sure how to fix that, I'm just pointing out
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Uhhh.. 350 Atk vs 136 Def & 211 HP (80 base power): 192 - 226 (91% - 107.11%) | Multipliers: 1.3 [Life Orb]

Thats a OHKO 100% of the time with Stealth Rock, which he will always get up bar a Deoxys-S lead with Taunt. If it comes in on Gengar, switch to Salamence. If it comes in on Metagross, it only does 77.01% - 91.34%. If it comes in on Azelf, he goes to Salamence. So the only Pokémon in fear is Deoxys-S, who won't be out until the very end anyways.
 
Sorry,I keep forgetting thats jolly, on one of my teams a Jolly one didn't OHKO, but thought it was Adamant.
 
You are lo agiligross weak. Lately I have been seeing this set with max speed evs fly around shoddy.

meteor mash
eq
ice punch
agility

If they keep that gross at full health and don't switch it into something stupid, it will rip through your team.

Also the thing about t-wave is very true, your team will get owned by para.

My suggestion is a bronzong lead, ( I know sooooo original) but it takes t-waves nicely and sets up rocks better than azelf, imo. I know zelf gets taunt, but I would give taunt up any day to not have my whole team crippled by a thunder waver. Zong also counters metagross very well.
 
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