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 UU Suspect Process Round 16 - Brass Monkey

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hello all, after cornerstone got banned not long ago, the next on the chopping block is Zarude after it received a similarly high 3.1 and 3.5 scores respectively on the recent UU survey, with it surging exponentially in scores towards the end of the survey’s time open.

Zarude has existed as a setup wincon within the tier for a long time now, with the “broken” aspect of the mon only coming to light in recent times, with Tornadus-Therian and Heatran rising. These pokemon weren’t the most solid Zarude checks ever, with Torn often being unable to pressure Zarude enough and taking too much damage from a boosted Knock Off, and Heatran being relatively easy to wear down into a boosted Knock Off’s range for a KO. However these pokemon made Swords Dance Zarude sets much higher floor than alternatively using Bulk Up as the setup move of choice. Due to the boost in power helping KO Tornadus/Heatran with less necessary chip, and Bulk Up’s pay off being significantly lower into these two high usage mons being special attackers with super effective STAB.

Now without these mons present, defensive counterplay to Zarude still exists without question, with Tinkaton, Mandibuzz, Hydrapple, Skarmory, and others existing to help keep even a boosted Zarude at bay. However, with Bulk Up in unison with Jungle Healing and/or a defensive Tera, most of these defensive pivots into Zarude become setup fodder quickly, and while SD + Trailblaze sets were always strong and irritating to revenge kill due to Zarude’s natural bulk…. Bulk Up sets are inherently more difficult to revenge due to common physical priority like First Impression being significantly nerfed due to defensive boosts from Bulk Up, which was not commonplace before.

Zarude’s objective and consistent counterplay is primarily phasing, due to it often being too bulky to simply never give a setup opportunity to in unison with a defensive tera. Jungle Healing and Trailblaze also prevent other common setup counterplay such as status and revenge killing with fast mons much more difficult to achieve. The primary splashable Unaware pokemon available in the tier is also weak to Zarude’s STAB Knock Off, and while Skeledirge still stops Zarude from winning outright due to Unaware, it doesn’t do so comfortably, often having to sacrifice its boots, a big chunk of HP, or tera at the bare minimum.

Another potentially suffocating aspect of Zarude is that it fits on multiple archetypes, HO, Sun, Terrain(s), BO, Balance, etc. There is no shortage of opportunities to splash this guy onto your team and make use of how consistent of a wincon it can be. While some of these archetypes are very niche, stuff like Seed items + Terrain effects and abusing Leaf Guard + Synthesis on Sun adds new layers to answering this already difficult pokemon offensively and defensively.

There is no debate this pokemon is a strong wincon, especially with cases of it outright winning being well documented via SCL, ladder, etc. Whether it’s truly “broken” or not is something you all will have to decide with this suspect.

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NOTE: THIS TEST WILL BE USING THE NEW SUSPECT PROCESS!

The instructions to participate in this test are as follows:

  • Create a new account on PS. You do not have to follow any specific naming convention, but your suspect account must have never played a game in UU before this suspect test went up or you will not receive valid requirements (resetting W/L does not count for this - the account you use must never have played UU before the test, full stop.)
  • At any point on your new account, use the command /linksmogon on Pokemon Showdown! You will receive instructions on what to do once you run this command.
  • Double check that you're listed as a voter here! If you aren't listed as a voter despite having valid reqs, please contact myself, Lyssa , or a member of staff.
  • If you have any questions about this new process, feel free to PM me/Lyssa or post here!

The requirement to vote in this suspect test is a COIL value of 2900. The deadline for getting requirements will be Sunday, November 23rd at 11:59pm GMT-4. GLHF chaps
 
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second UU suspect, this one went a lot better than the Cornerstone suspect (is it character arc time?)

funny enough i saw at max 2 Zarudes on ladder for this suspect. However for cornerstone suspect, i faced quite a lot of it on ladder for me to confidently say ban. I'm going to run through the different sets i've seen zarude run from least to most problematic (in my opinion)

Choice Scarf Zarude: TBH, not a very problematic mon for me, though it is a very good. This allows it to outrun stuff like latios, weavile and greninja (battle bond not activated). This set i feel is very good, proving good speed control. However, i would never call this set broken because if zarude is walled, its walled. Skarmory/hydrapple/mandibuzz can easily switch into it, taking hit after hit and healing off the damage, making it so it can never really get through. Teras on this are usually dark or grass for insane burst damage, or a defensive tera for lokix (we will get into defensive teras later).

Choice band Zarude: this mon sacrifices speed for power, but its not a bad trade, ur still the 8th fastest mon in the tier so as long as you play and click the correct moves you should be fine. oh yeah this guy gets uturn so if u think ur opponent is switching you can click that, this guy notably also runs tera fighting so it can hit cobalion and tinkaton for a lot of damage with close combat. Just insane power to trade and maybe close out games, all though thats still not the set that i feel is the reason for its ban.

Leftovers bulk up tera poison zarude: now this is the set i think we all feel pushes zarude over the edge. with a moveset of bulk up, knock off, trailblaze and jungle healing, and a VERY CUSTOMIZABLE TERA, this mon patches up a lot of its weaknesses, making it so theres no clear answer. lets start with the tera: Poison, fairy, water, fire, yeah this mon has a lot of viable teras it can run. The most common is poison- this gives it a neutrality to lokix's priority (tinted lens) which is still better than a 4x weakness, resistance to conkeldurr drain punch and mach punch, secret sword from keldeo resistance, etc etc. Also, the best ways to deal with a poison type are ground and psychic types. However, these two types are weak to either grass or dark attacks, making them less reliable. next, the moveset. Bulk up helps it to boost its offense and defenses, making it an all round good move. trailblaze helps it to boost its speed so stuff like latios cant drop a draco on it, knock works us a utility and offensive move, and jungle healing deals with another issue it has: status. you can burn it, paralyze it, poison it all you like. it clicks jungle healing, healing 25% of its HP (which is more than you think it needs, considering it has likely boosted its defense) and more importantly, cleared its status. this set allows it to get past mandibuzz, hydrapple, skarmory, and if it swaps out jungle healing for taunt, it can 1v1 pex (to an extent). This mon can also come in on a lot of the mons in the tier. Excadrill, sinistcha, rotom-wash, etc etc

This mon thrives off of set variety, there is no clear way to beat zarude- if you guess wrong you lose a lot of ground. so yeah ban this guy i dont think its healthy for the tier

https://pokepast.es/45c1c10ece339af0 team i used

can we suspect weavile next not that i think its broken (i have seen people say its broken but i disagree), i have done 4 suspect tests now (including this one) and ive voted/will be voting yes to ban for all of them. I lowkey look like i just like to vote ban on everything at this point :sob:
 
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