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UU Team needs help.

Sazabi

Hello Smogon-ers:

I have lurked on this site and forums for a while, but only recently did I realize there was a browser-based simulator! This is awesome because I love the PVP game, but my DS doesn’t like wifi all that much. Anyways I have an upcoming UU style tournament (in real life, on the DS) coming up, and I need the aid of wiser minds to help me with my team. I have had decent, but very mixed success on the simulator with this team, crawling up to 1600 pts, but have hit a plateau hard. I feel it is missing something. Lastly because I am actually breeding and training these pokes, I am somewhat limited by the actual game mechanics, so some things will seem less then optimized. Luckily so are my opponents in the tourny.

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Scolipede @ Focus Sash
Swarm
252 Atk 252 Spe 4 Hp
Jolly
Spikes
Megahorn
Earthquake
Rockslide


Scolipede is my lead. He usually sets spikes, unless there is a good chance to KO something (Azelf, or Roserade). I have had games where just Scolipede has won it for me single-handedly, and ones where he does almost nothing. I feel mixed about him.
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Claydol @ Leftovers
Levitate
252 Hp 252 Def 4Spd
Bold
Rapid Spin
Stealth Rock
Ice Beam
Earth Power

Claydol does stealth rock and spinning. I’m not a big fan of having my stealth rocker and be my spinner as I seem to always get him killed early, and that hurts. He’s a bit of let down, but the other rapid spinners don’t really have good synergy with my team. He also serves as a physical ‘pivot’ for my team.

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Bronzong @ Leftovers
Heatproof
252 Hp 252 Spd 4 Def
Sassy
Psychic
Calm Mind
Shadow Ball
Grass Knot

This slot on my team is the most contested, but I have seen the most success with this set. He is a special pivot, and if he gets stuck in one of those stupid fights against say Porygon-2 or Sigilyph, he can often come out on top. He also does a decent job of catching fire attacks. I would like him to have stealth rock, but there is no TM in gen 5. Unless someone here thinks it’s a really good idea, I would just leave him, as I’m not really sure about his spot on the team.

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Empoleon @ Choice Specs
Torrent
248 Hp 252 Spa 8 Spe
Modest
Surf
Ice Beam
Grass Knot
Hidden Power (Psychic)

Empoleon is the wall breaker, and he does very well at it. He has saved my butt a good few times, and most people underestimate the power he brings to the table. I know hidden power psychic sucks, but that’s what the IV’s say. I feel very good about his place on the team
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Flygon @ Choice Scarf
Levitate
252 Atk 252 Sp 4 Hp
Jolly
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Stone Edge
U-Turn

Revenge killing Flygon, as well as momentum builder. He does as well as he should, and I managed to breed one with perfect attack and speed IV’s. Again, sub optimal move-set as a result of no move tutors.

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Yanmega @ Life Orb
Speed Boost
252 Spa 252 Spe 4 Def
Modest
Protect
Bug Buzz
Air Slash
U-Turn

My late game cleaner. If all has gone to plan, then my two walls, hazards, and Flygon will wear them enemy down, and their walls are killed by Empoleon. Also no Stealth Rocks. His hidden power option is steel if you’re wondering.

Things that wreak my day: Registeel, Scrafty, Mienshao, Hitmontop, and U-Turns teams are all things that I really have trouble dealing with. Like I spared my buddy, and his U-Turn team raped me to death, like 5-0.

So there is the team. Again, sorry for sub-optimal builds, but I am breeding and raising this team, so I am limited (and whoever thought BW didn’t need move tutors should be shot). I would prefer to keep Empoleon, Flygon, and Yanmega but the other three really are up in the air. I appreciate any and all help, and thank you for your time.
 
There is an SR tutor in BW2, FYI. And the teambuilder allows you to change the IVs to get HP whatever type/power you want. It even has common HP types built-in.
 
You can try a SubPetaya set with Empoleon which would be idk:

Empoleon @ Petaya Berry
EVs: 252 SpA/192Spe/40HP/24Def
Ability: Torrent
- Subsitute
- Agility
- Surf/Hydro Pump
- Flash Cannon

Water + Steel provides decent coverge. Basically you come in and if you predict a switch, throw up a Sub then Agility followed by Subs till your Petaya Berry activates making your Empoleon +1 SpA and +2 Speed allowing you to outspeed +natured base 80 scarf users. When your berry activates you'll be in Torrent range making your Surf / Hydro Pump pack EXTREME punch to anything that doesn't resist it or walls on the SpA side. It's basically a choice between Accuracy vs Power.

For Yanmega, swap U-Turn for Hidden Power Ground if you can.
 
I know you do not have access to most pokemon movesets, but you should really try to get outrage on flygon. Outrage is much better than dragon claw late game and flygon is a much better late game sweeper than yanmega, because it can take hits a lot better and it doesnt have to start at 50% when it comes in due to rocks.

According to your mini threatlist, you have problems vs fighting types and U-turn. If you replace Bronzong with a Hitmontop, it would help alleviate that weakness.

Hitmontop (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Close Combat
- Mach Punch
- Sucker Punch
- Toxic
Toxic is for ghosts who want to come in taking CC. Sucker Punch is a 4th gen Tutor Move, you can replace it with Stone Edge if you can't get one with sucker punch.

I would also replace Empoleon with a Snorlax. If Bronzong can sweep a few teams with that Calm Mind set, then Snorlax will have no problem. You struggle to take special hits from pokemon like Chandelure and Snorlax is an immediate answer to those special pokemon.

Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 HP / 80 Def / 176 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Sleep Talk
- Body Slam
- Rest
- Curse
The best thing about this is you only really need to breed to get curse. The rest of the moves are learned via level up. You need a slowbro or Torterra to learn curse and then breed with a female snorlax.


Hope I helped. I didn't want to replace too many pokemon.
 
Chimpakt said:
I know you do not have access to most pokemon movesets, but you should really try to get outrage on flygon. Outrage is much better than dragon claw late game and flygon is a much better late game sweeper than yanmega, because it can take hits a lot better and it doesnt have to start at 50% when it comes in due to rocks.

According to your mini threatlist, you have problems vs fighting types and U-turn. If you replace Bronzong with a Hitmontop, it would help alleviate that weakness.

Hitmontop (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Close Combat
- Mach Punch
- Sucker Punch
- Toxic
Toxic is for ghosts who want to come in taking CC. Sucker Punch is a 4th gen Tutor Move, you can replace it with Stone Edge if you can't get one with sucker punch.

I would also replace Empoleon with a Snorlax. If Bronzong can sweep a few teams with that Calm Mind set, then Snorlax will have no problem. You struggle to take special hits from pokemon like Chandelure and Snorlax is an immediate answer to those special pokemon.

Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 HP / 80 Def / 176 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Sleep Talk
- Body Slam
- Rest
- Curse
The best thing about this is you only really need to breed to get curse. The rest of the moves are learned via level up. You need a slowbro or Torterra to learn curse and then breed with a female snorlax.


Hope I helped. I didn't want to replace too many pokemon.
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I agree with Chimpakt, but i suggest you use blastoise as your spinner over claydol.you llose SR though. Or keep bronzong and put SR somewhere on the set.
 
You should really increase your descriptions. Just by telling raters why you have a certain Pokemon over another similar Poke, what your team strategy is, and why you chose particular moves/EV spreads is very helpful (you're not limited to just this either). It would also help the raters if you replied to their rates when you have the time, since it'll help everyone improve. I know this is a cartridge team, but most raters are thinking in the mindset of the BW2 metagame, so perhaps you should consider trying the simulators? Pokemon Showdown is the official Smogon simulator, and it can help you improve your skills more easily than wi-fi battling will.

@TheKillerNachoFan: You know that you can edit your post instead of double posting right?
 
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