Tournament UUbers PL Format Discussion Thread

[Celeste]

As the end of the year comes close, that means it is time for us to start preparing for another edition of UUBPL! After a very successful run last year, we are considering expanding UUBPL to better represent our growing community.

1. Slot/Team Count
Given we had 6 slots for 6 teams last year, we needed 48 players and received 120 signups. As this leaves for room to grow, even accounting for a potential drop in signups due to waning interest in SV, we would like to propose the idea of expanding teams to 8 Slots, where each team would draft 10 players with 2 subs, requiring ideally 90+ signups to field the approriate 60 minimum players

2. Formats
Last year the UUBPL format featured 3x SV bo1, SV Bo3, SS, and SM. Expanding would likely mean adding another SV slot, but to make up for this would also add a slot for ORAS UUbers, which we would like to see be developed more as one of our official Old Gen tiers. This means in the case of an expansion to 8 slots, the suggested format could be as follows:

:magearna: SV UUbers Bo1 x4
:arceus-poison: SV UUbers Bo3 x1
:zamazenta: SS UUbers
:pheromosa: SM UUbers
:kyogre: ORAS UUbers

While 4 SV UUbers slots is a lot, other options such as doubling up on one old gen, or a multigen Bo3 across the old gens are not likely to be considered. The former due to not wanting to favor any old gen over the other, and the latter being due to the smaller playerbases of the lower tiers making a multigen Bo3 slot appear highly uncompetative on paper while the tiers develop more - especially with ORAS being a new addition.

These are just the things we have thrown out internally, we are open to discussing more if people are interested! Tagging previous UUBPL managers to weigh in on this.

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[Celeste]

Going to additionally add that ND UUbers will not be on the table for adding another slot this year

 

[DDart]

Not a big tourney player or organiser so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but 5 SV slots (including Bo3) feels like a lot. Adding an ORAS slot is really nice, could we just do that and run 3 Bo1 SV, 1 Bo5 SV, and 2 ORAS?

Edit: I can't read. This is what I'd personally like to see and I think it'd help bring more attention to ORAS, but I understand it's not likely. If adding an SV slot is required for ORAS to get 2, that's much better than nothing, though imo it feels quite bloated.

 

[Celeste]

I personally would like to see the proposed format, its been ran in the past in last years NFEPL, and while 5 SV slots is a lot its something that can be done and is more an awkward consequence of wanting to expand while having 4 tiers on the table, this will be resolved next generation at least. I think it would be awesome to see as many people as possible get involved, and the only alternative is adding more teams, something I'm less on board with despite having enough manager applicants to go through with it last year. I think having a priority on stronger managers cores with a few more players at the cost of one more SV slot is what I'd rather deal with. Given if we do 8 slots, a majority of the new players coming in will be far more likely to be SV players, as that is absolutely where we have seen the most growth regarding new players in this years circuit.

Those are my thoughts as of now, if we get a few more proposed ideas I will try and respond to them at one point.

 

[Weredude08]

Current gen is always the most relevant and competitive with the largest player base, especially in a relatively new format such as Ubers UU where it was started in SV itself. I think the proposed format does a great job in placing a larger emphasis on SV whilst still requiring a good level of quality in olds gens. Fully support this

 

[kerbecs]

I agree with the added SV Bo1 slot and generally opposed to older gen Bo3, as Bo3 slots as a whole require much more preparation on top of an already small playerbase for each individual tier. I think the general SV burnout problem applies less to Ubers UU specifically (at least in my experience) as I still very much enjoy playing the tier when compared to OU. Getting more people involved sounds basically only positive for something like this and the best way to get the most new players is probably expanding modern gen slots.

One small concern is I've seen some of the people who have been playing the tier for longer express that they might be losing interest in playing, which may affect specifically the competitiveness of the Bo3 slot. That's purely based on what I've personally seen/heard so take that with a grain of salt.