NU Uxie

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Overview
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Uxie has good defensive stats that allow it to pull off both specially and physically defensive spreads, meaning that it can wall significant portions of the metagame. It has good base Speed for a defensive utility Pokemon, which means it can outspeed Pokemon it is walling and use a utility move or threaten them out with an attack. Uxie is extremely versatile, being able to run multiple viable sets; this versatility leads to unpredictability and allows Uxie to fulfill multiple roles on any given team. Its versatility stems from its access to multiple support moves such as Stealth Rock, Thunder Wave, Memento, weather moves, and dual screens. However, Uxie has mediocre offensive stats and is largely outclassed by Mesprit in any offensive role; the only good offensive set that Uxie can pull off is a bulky Calm Mind set.

Defensive Utility
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name: Defensive Utility
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Thunder Wave
move 3: Psychic
move 4: U-turn
ability: Levitate
item: Leftovers
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
nature: Relaxed

Moves
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Stealth Rock is for chip damage, to break Focus Sashes, and to check Fire- and Flying-types. Thunder Wave is good for crippling fast Pokemon and is a general nuisance to opposing teams. Psychic is a good STAB move for when Uxie needs to stay in and attack. U-turn is for gaining momentum and allows Uxie to function as a bulky pivot. Heal Bell is an option to remove status from Uxie and its teammates, while Knock Off is a good utility move that removes important items such as Leftovers or Choice items. Yawn can be used to force switches and gain momentum with U-turn, or to put a Pokemon to sleep.

Set Details
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Maximum HP and Defense EVs let Uxie take as many physical hits as possible. A Relaxed nature further increases Uxie's Defense, allows for slower U-turns, and doesn't decrease the power of either of its attacks. Alternatively, a spread of 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD with a Sassy nature can be used to let Uxie take as many special hits as possible. Leftovers is used for increased longevity, and Levitate is Uxie's only ability, allowing it to avoid Spikes, Toxic Spikes, and Sticky Web.

Usage Tips
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Uxie can function as a lead, setting up Stealth Rock and then U-turning out into an appropriate Pokemon to gain momentum. Use Thunder Wave on fast offensive threats to make them easier for the rest of your team to deal with. Uxie can also be used as a pivot, switching in, taking a hit, and then U-turning out into an appropriate check or counter. Be wary of switching in multiple times, as Uxie has no reliable recovery and gets worn down fairly easily through multiple hits.

Team Options
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Spikes setters such as Ferroseed, Quilladin, and Qwilfish can set up Spikes alongside Uxie's Stealth Rock. Spinblockers such as Gourgeist-S and Mismagius prevent the opponent from spinning away Stealth Rock and Spikes. Wish users such as Lickilicky and Audino are good teammates for Uxie, as they can pass Wishes to Uxie, solving its lack of reliable recovery.

Substitute + Calm Mind
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name: Substitute + Calm Mind
move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Psyshock
move 4: Giga Drain
ability: Levitate
item: Leftovers
evs: 188 HP / 60 Def / 36 SpA / 224 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
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Calm Mind boosts Special Defense and Special Attack, allowing Uxie to become both bulky and strong. Substitute is used to dodge status, and Uxie's Substitute can occasionally take multiple hits before breaking, increasing Uxie's longevity. Psyshock is a STAB move that inflicts physical damage, allowing Uxie to beat Pokemon that try to set up Calm Mind boosts alongside it. Giga Drain provides good neutral coverage, while giving Uxie a way to recover HP that is faster than the passive recovery of Leftovers. Dazzling Gleam is a good coverage move, providing Uxie with perfect neutral coverage except against Steel-types. Thunderbolt allows for neutral coverage against Steel-types, while Hidden Power Fire can be used to hit Steel-types harder, especially Ferroseed.

Set Details
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188 HP EVs and 60 Defense EVs let Uxie's Substitute take a Knock Off from Audino without breaking, while also providing a Leftovers number. 224 Speed EVs with a Timid nature let Uxie outspeed max Speed Rotom and other base 90 Speed Pokemon. 36 Special Attack EVs give Uxie a chance to 2HKO Feraligatr with Giga Drain. Alternatively, a spread of 184 HP / 48 Def / 100 SpA / 176 Speed with a Timid nature can be used so that Uxie can outspeed and OHKO Jolly Choice Band Sawk at +1 with Psyshock, while still preventing Audino from breaking Uxie's Substitute with Knock Off.

Usage Tips
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Uxie should be brought in against Pokemon that cannot break its Substitute, such as Audino and other defensive Pokemon. Against more offensive teams, Uxie should be brought in late-game to set up against a Pokemon that cannot do much to it. Try to get at least three Calm Mind boosts before attempting a sweep, because Uxie's stopping power is pretty low without any boosts. Watch out for status, as it will decrease Uxie's longevity; use Substitute on a predicted status move to create a free turn for Uxie to start setting up. Avoid Knock Off, as Uxie needs its Leftovers to recover health while setting up. Uxie can regain health with Giga Drain when it is ready to sweep.

Team Options
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Entry hazard setters such as Accelgor and Crustle help to limit the opponent's switches and can allow Uxie to set up a sweep earlier against weakened opponents. Clerics such as Audino and Vileplume make good teammates for Uxie, as they can remove any unwanted status from Uxie. Uxie appreciates Knock Off absorbers such as Granbull and Slurpuff, as the removal of Leftovers is detrimental to Uxie's ability to sweep.

Dual Screens
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name: Dual Screens
move 1: Reflect
move 2: Light Screen
move 3: Memento
move 4: U-turn / Stealth Rock
ability: Levitate
item: Light Clay
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
nature: Bold

Moves
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With Light Clay, Reflect reduces the amount of damage received from physical moves for eight turns; this helps to minimize damage dealt to teammates from physical attackers, increasing longevity and allowing various Pokemon to set up. Similarly, with Light Clay, Light Screen reduces the amount of damage received from special moves for eight turns. Memento reduces the foe's Attack and Special Attack by two stages and also knocks Uxie out, preventing the opponent from using Defog to remove the screens it has just set up. U-turn is useful for gaining momentum after setting up screens and can allow Uxie to set up screens later on in the match. Stealth Rock can be used for chip damage and for breaking Focus Sashes and Sturdy.

Set Details
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The standard defensive spread of maximum investment in HP and Defense allows Uxie to take as many physical hits as possible. A Bold nature further increases Uxie's Defense, and Light Clay is used to increase the length of screens time from five turns to eight turns.

Usage Tips
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Dual Screens should be set up early on in the game; if Uxie is running Stealth Rock, make sure to set up screens first to minimize the damage that Uxie takes while setting up. If Uxie is still above 60% health after setting up screens, U-turn out into a sweeper or an appropriate check; however, if Uxie is below 40% health, use Memento, go out into a sweeper, and begin setting up. If a Pokemon that has Defog switches in, such as Pelipper, Mantine, or Swanna, use Memento on it to prevent it from using Defog on Uxie. Then go out into a Pokemon that threatens the Defog user or can set up on it; the opponent will be forced to choose whether to use Defog or to switch out.

Team Options
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Setup sweepers such as Belly Drum Slurpuff and Swords Dance Feraligatr appreciate the extra turns to set up that Uxie creates with dual screens and Memento. If Uxie is not running Stealth Rock, entry hazard setters such as Crustle and Accelgor provide chip damage and break Focus Sashes and Sturdy, making it easier for sweepers to do their job.

Weather Setter
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name: Weather Setter
move 1: Sunny Day / Rain Dance
move 2: Stealth Rock
move 3: Memento
move 4: U-turn / Psychic
ability: Levitate
item: Heat Rock / Damp Rock
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
nature: Impish

Moves
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Sunny Day allows sun abusers to sweep, while Rain Dance allows rain sweepers to sweep. Stealth Rock is used for chip damage and to break Focus Sashes and Sturdy. Memento is used to gain momentum after setting up weather and Stealth Rock, but it knocks Uxie out. U-turn acts similarly to Memento, but it allows Uxie to possibly set up weather later on in the match. Psychic is a STAB move if Uxie should need to attack.

Set Details
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The standard defensive spread of 252 HP EVs, 252 Defense EVs, and an Impish nature allows Uxie to take as many physical hits as possible. Heat Rock and Damp Rock increase the length of their respective weather from five turns to eight turns.

Usage Tips
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Uxie should set up Stealth Rock on the first turn and weather on the second turn. After setting up weather, Uxie should use U-turn if above 60% health so as to allow it to possibly set up weather again late-game, or Memento if low on health to gain momentum for a weather sweeper.

Team Options
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Teammates for Rain Dance Uxie include alternate rain setters such as Liepard for priority weather late-game, and rain sweepers such as Ludicolo, Gorebyss, and Seismitoad. When Uxie is placed in a sun team, its teammates should include an alternate weather setter such as Liepard or Volbeat for priority weather late-game, and sun sweepers such as Victreebel, Typhlosion, Sawsbuck, and Pyroar.

Other Options
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Other options for Uxie include running a Trick set with either Choice Band, Choice Scarf, or Choice Specs. Uxie can also run offensive sets with the aforementioned Choice items; however, these sets are largely outclassed by Mesprit. Foul Play can be used on defensive sets as a way to prevent physically offensive Pokemon such as Feraligatr from setting up on Uxie. Magic Coat can be used to bounce back an opposing team's entry hazards and statuses. A ChestoRest set can be used for recovery; however, Uxie struggles to find room for Rest and loses out on the passive recovery of Leftovers. Toxic and Yawn are other status options that can be used over Thunder Wave; Yawn can force switches or put an opposing Pokemon to sleep, while Toxic can quickly wear down opposing walls. Uxie can be used as a Trick Room setter with Memento and Stealth Rock. An anti-lead set with Power Herb and Solar Beam can be used to lure in and KO opposing Stealth Rock setters such as Seismitoad and Rhydon.

Checks & Counters
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**Dark-types**: Dark-type Pokemon such as Liepard, Pawniard, and Sneasel can threaten Uxie with a powerful Knock Off, removing its Leftovers and dealing massive amounts of damage to it. Liepard can Encore Uxie into a utility move and U-turn out, providing momentum for the opposing team. Pawniard can set up on Uxie, gain a +2 Attack boost thanks to Defiant if Uxie tries to use Memento on it, and hurt it with a STAB Knock Off; however, Pawniard does not appreciate taking a U-turn. Sneasel can seriously injure Uxie with Knock Off or trap it with Pursuit.

**Taunt**: Faster Taunt users such as Archeops, Mismagius, and Liepard can all prevent Uxie from doing its job; however, they must already be on the field to prevent Uxie from using one utility move.

**Status**: Uxie has no form of reliable recovery, so status moves like Will-O-Wisp and Toxic wear it down quickly. Many Pokemon that Uxie likes to switch in on, such as Vileplume, Dragalge, Garbodor, and Qwifish, can all inflict status on Uxie, quickly wearing it down.

**Ghost-types**: Ghost-type Pokemon such as Mismagius and Golurk can hurt Uxie with their STAB moves. Mismagius can Taunt Uxie to prevent it from using any of its utility options, and proceed to use Nasty Plot and threaten to KO Uxie with Shadow Ball. Golurk is immune to Thunder Wave and can either hit Uxie hard with a STAB Shadow Punch or set up Stealth Rock on the switch.

Overview
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+ good base defensive stats, can go either specially defensive or physically defensive
+ good base speed for a defensive utility pokemon
+ versatile
+ access to multiple support moves
- Alright offensive base stats
- Outclassed by Mespirt offensively

Defensive Utility
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name: Defensive Utility
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Thunder Wave
move 3: Psychic
move 4: U-turn
ability: Levitate
item: Leftovers
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
nature: Relaxed

Moves
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  • Stealth Rock is for chip damage and to break Focus Sash and check Fire-types and Flying-types
  • Thunder Wave is good for crippling fast Pokemon an being a general nuisance
  • Psychic is a good STAB move for getting damage off on an opposing Pokemo
  • U-turn is for gaining momentum and Uxie can be used as a bulky pivot
  • Heal Bell is to remove status from teammates and itself
  • Knock Off is a good utility move removing important items like Leftovers or choiced items
  • Yawn can be used for forcing switches and gaining momentum with U-turn, or putting a Pokemon to sleep
Set Details
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  • Max HP and Max Defense to be able to take as many physical hits as possible
  • Relaxed nature to increase defense even further and for slower U-turns and so Knock Off or Psychic isnt doing less damage
  • Alternatively a Max HP Max Special Defense spread can be used to take as many special hits as possible
  • Sassy nature to increase special defense and for slower U-turns and so Knock Off or Psychic isnt doing less damage
Usage Tips
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  • Uxie can be used as lead setting up Stealth Rock and then U-turning out into an appropriate Pokemon
  • Thunder Wave fast offensive threats to make them easier for the rest of your team to deal with
  • Uxie can be used as a pivot, if using U-turn, switching in taking a hit and then U-turning out into an appropriate check or counter
  • Be wary of switching in multiple times as Uxie has no reliable form of recovery and gets worn down fairly easily through multiple hits
Team Options
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  • Spike setters like Ferroseed, Quilladin, and Qwilfish can set up Spikes alongside Uxie's Stealth Rock
  • Spinblockers like Gourgeist-S and Mismagius prevent Stealth Rocks and Spikes from being spun away
  • Wish users such as Lickilicky and Audino are good teammates for Uxie, as they can run another move other than Heal Bell and can pass wishes to Uxie solving its unreliable recovery problem.
Sub Calm Mind
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name: Sub Calm Mind
move 1: Cam Mind
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Psyshock
move 4: Giga Drain
ability: Levitate
item: Leftovers
evs: 188 HP / 60 Def / 36 SpA / 224 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
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  • Calm Mind boosts Special Defense and Special Attack
  • Substitute is used to dodge status and increase Uxie's survivability
  • Psyshock is a STAB move that hits on the physical side, allowing Uxie to beat any Pokemon that try to setup Calm Mind boosts alongside of it
  • Giga Drain provides good neutral coverage, while giving a way for Uxie to recover HP
  • Dazzling Gleam is a good coverage move providing Uxie almost perfect neutral coverage except against Steel-types
  • Thunderbolt allows for neutral coverage against steels
  • Hidden Power Fire can be used to hit Steel-types, especially Ferroseed
Set Details
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  • 188 HP and 60 Defense let Uxie take a Knock Off from Audino without it breaking its Substitute while also providing a Leftovers number. 224 Speed outspeeds max speed Rotom and other base 90s. 36 Special Attack gives Uxie a chance to 2HKO Feraligatr with Giga Drain.
  • Timid to increase speed and help Uxie outspeed max speed Rotom and base 90s
  • Alternatively a spread of 184 HP / 48 Def / 100 SpA / 176 Spe Timid can be used as you can outspeed and OHKO Jolly Banded Sawk at +1 with Psyshock
Usage Tips
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  • Uxie should be brought in against Pokemon that can not break its sub
  • Against more offensive teams Uxie should be brought in late game
  • Try to get up at least 3 Calm Minds before attempting a sweep because Uxie's stopping power is pretty low
  • Watch out for status as this will decrease Uxie's survivability, sub on predicted status
  • Avoid getting knocked off as Leftovers allows Uxie to recover health while setting up, Giga Drain will let Uxie regain health when it is ready to sweep
Team Options
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  • Entry hazard setters such as Accelgor and Crustle
  • Status removers like Audino or Vileplume, to remove any unwanted status from Uxie
  • Knock Off absorbers such as Granbull or Slurpuff
Dual Screens
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name: Dual Screens
move 1: Reflect
move 2: Light Screen
move 3: Memento
move 4: U-turn / Stealth Rock
ability: Levitate
item: Light Clay
evs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 4 Spe
nature: Bold

Moves
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  • Reflect reduces the amount of damage received from physical moves for 5 turns, with light clay its 8
  • Light Screen reduces the amount of damage received from special moves for 5 turns, with light clay its 8
  • Memento reduces the opponents attack and special attack by two stages, Uxie faints after using this
  • U-turn is useful for gaining momentum after setting up screens and so Uxie can set up screens later on in the match
  • Stealth Rock is good for chip damage and for breaking Focus Sash and Sturdy
Set Details
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  • Max HP and Max Defense to be able to take as many physical hits as possible
  • Bold Nature to further increase the defensive stat
Usage Tips
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  • Screens should be set up early on, if using Stealth Rock make sure to set up screens first
  • If Uxie is still above 60% health after setting up screens U-turn out into a sweeper or appropriate check
  • If Uxie is below 40% health use Memento and then go out into a sweeper and begin setting up
  • If a Pokemon comes in that is known to use Defog, Memento on it so that way when it tries to Defog on Uxie it will fail. Then go out into a Pokemon that threatens the defogger or can set up on it, the opponent will be forced to choose whether to Defog or whether to switch out.
Team Options
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  • Setup sweepers like Belly Drum Slurpuff and Swords Dance Feraligatr appreciate the extra turns screens+memento creates for setting up
  • If Uxie is not running rocks entry hazard pokemon like Crustle and Accelgor help any sweeper Uxie goes out into have an easier time sweeping
Weather Setter
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name: Weather Setter
move 1: Sunny Day / Rain Dance
move 2: Stealth Rock
move 3: Memento
move 4: U-turn / Psychic
ability: Levitate
item: Heat Rock / Damp Rock
evs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 4 Spe
nature: Bold

Moves
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  • Sunny Day for setting up Sun
  • Rain Dance for setting up Rain
  • Stealth Rock for chip damage and breaking sashes/sturdy
  • Memento to gain momentum after setting up weather
  • U-turn acts similar to Memento, but it allows Uxie to switch out and possibly set up weather later on in the match
  • Psychic is a STAB move if Uxie needs to attack
Set Details
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  • Max HP and Max Defense to be able to take as many physical hits as possible
  • Bold Nature to further increase the defensive stat
Usage Tips
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  • Set up Stealth Rock first turn and then set up weather the second turn.
  • After setting up weather either Memento or use U-turn to switch into a weather sweeper and save Uxie for setting up weather later on in the match

Team Options
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  • On a Rain Team: Alternate rain setter, such as Liepard for priority weather later on in the match, some rain sweepers include Ludicolo, Gorebyss, and Seismitoad.
  • On a Sun Team: Alternate sun setter, such as Liepard for priority weather later on in the match, some sun sweepers include Victreebel, Typhlosion, Sawsbuck, and Pyroar.
Other Options
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  • Trick
  • Offensive sets, Physical Band/Scarf, Special Specs/Scarf However these sets are outclassed by Mesprit
  • Foul Play
  • Magic Coat
  • Resto Chesto
  • Toxic / Yawn
  • Trick Room setter with Memento + Stealth Rock
  • Anti Lead, Power Herb + Solar Beam

Checks & Counters
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**Dark-Types**: Dark-type pokemon like Liepard, Pawniard, and Sneasel all threaten out Uxie with a powerful Knock Off or can set up on it

**Taunt**: Faster taunt users like Archeops, Mismagius, and Liepard can all prevent Uxie from doing its job

**Status**: Uxie has no form of reliable recovery so statuses like Will-O-Wisp and Toxic wear it down quickly

**Ghost-Types**: Ghost-type Pokemon like Mismagius or Golurk can hurt Uxie with their STAB moves
 
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Just getting this up so if anyone wants to post a set or particular EV spread they can, Uxie has a ton of different sets out there so feel free to comment with yours.

Edit: also gonna just put sets in no particular order, QC can give an order suggestion or I will talk on IRC about it.
 
Rain setter is cool set that I think you should mention since it's relatively fast and has access to rocks rain dance and memento. With weather dominating starting to get more popular, it would be a worthy set to have.
Definitely not the first set, the first set should be a phys def one.

The last set should be a subcm set, I do genuinely think is a threat if played around like it was a defensive uxie
 

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Sets should probably be:
  • Screens
  • SubCM
  • Weather
  • Defensive utility set
Not necessarily in that order but yeah.

Btw your current Screens set should have SR slashed (most likely with U-turn). Most of the time when I used this thing it's primarily because it gets Screens + rocks which combined with its bulk is really nice to have.
 

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I'll probably finish this up either later today or tomorrow. Thx for the input.
Edit: slowly working on this, have some irl stuff and finishing Marowak, should be done fairly soon.
 
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Gonna move this for QC checks. I'm unsure on what spreads to run so I just put max defense max hp for most of them, if there is a better/optimal spread I'll change it to that. Also I find running speed on screens uxie unnecessary as you outpace most defoggers anyways, now that Shiftry is gone and the extra bulk allows Uxie to setup screens twice. Hope I didnt miss anything obvious.
 

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I think all the sets should use at least some Speed tbh

Screens doesn't need so much bulk imo as Reflect / Light Screen already cushion hits and it likes being able to set up Screens vs faster mons at low health since it gets worn down pretty quickly. I'd honestly just use max Speed unless anyone has any better ideas

SubCM generally likes running enough Speed for Sawk (such as Zeb's post here or Treecko's RMT, the rest of the EVs could use some toying around with but 176 Spe is a good benchmark imo. It's probably a good benchmark for Lefties SR as well

Weather is a bit more debatable since a slower U-turn is nice but I still personally preferred a speedier variant for a last-ditch rain against stuff that falls between 226 - 317 Spe. A faster Memento / Yawn if you're using that is also kinda cool too but it might be just me
 

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I think all the sets should use at least some Speed tbh

Screens doesn't need so much bulk imo as Reflect / Light Screen already cushion hits and it likes being able to set up Screens vs faster mons at low health since it gets worn down pretty quickly. I'd honestly just use max Speed unless anyone has any better ideas

SubCM generally likes running enough Speed for Sawk (such as Zeb's post here or Treecko's RMT, the rest of the EVs could use some toying around with but 176 Spe is a good benchmark imo. It's probably a good benchmark for Lefties SR as well

Weather is a bit more debatable since a slower U-turn is nice but I still personally preferred a speedier variant for a last-ditch rain against stuff that falls between 226 - 317 Spe. A faster Memento / Yawn if you're using that is also kinda cool too but it might be just me
Yeah I was unsure on spreads as for most Uxie sets I've run I've just been lazy and done max max lol. Also for screens the added bulk ensures Uxie can set them up twice, as far as speed goes Uxie is already outspeeding a large portion of the defensive tier with that nice 95 base speed, so on that set I actually preferred the added bulk once shiftry left the tier.

Edit: will finish the different spreads and set details later
 
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hey Montsegur whole skeleton needs some work imo, maybe re-read the whole thing because theres some thing weird (like subcm's set details)

anyway i think the order should be subcm>defensive>screens>weather

and here's what I think the SubCM set should look like:

Sub Calm Mind
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name: Sub Calm Mind
move 1: Cam Mind
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Psyshock
move 4: Giga Drain / Dazzling Gleam
ability: Levitate
item: Leftovers
evs:188 HP / 60 Def / 36 SpA / 224 Spe <- EV might need some work as it is enuf speed for Rotom, and 36 SpA is random
nature: Timid

188 hp + 60 def lets the sub take Audino's Knock Off and gives Uxie a leftovers number

Tbolt in Moves only, Psyshock + Giga Drain / Dazzling Gleam is superior

As for the first set, the moves order should be Stealth Rock, Psychic, Thunder Wave, U-Turn. Knock Off and Heal Bell in moves. IDK about Relaxed and Sassy, seems useless to me, but eh. You might want other qcer's opinion on that.

Screens and Weather needs to be updated too
 

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Isn't there a hipster Anti-Lead set? With a power herb and Solar Beam and stuff? You could try putting that in OO? Kinda like an old Crustle set..? Does it catch anything off guard in particular...also why use weather Uxie over say...Prankster Liepard or Volbeat? Is the slow u-Turn enough? Becuase even Volbeat can do that! You might want to mention that Uxie is a lot easier to play now without stuff like Spiritomb,with its only commonly played stop being Liepard. Maybe suggest HP:Fighting for Probopass and Pawniard in the CM set? It's all good ^^
 

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hey Montsegur whole skeleton needs some work imo, maybe re-read the whole thing because theres some thing weird (like subcm's set details)

anyway i think the order should be subcm>defensive>screens>weather

and here's what I think the SubCM set should look like:

Sub Calm Mind
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name: Sub Calm Mind
move 1: Cam Mind
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Psyshock
move 4: Giga Drain / Dazzling Gleam
ability: Levitate
item: Leftovers
evs:188 HP / 60 Def / 36 SpA / 224 Spe <- EV might need some work as it is enuf speed for Rotom, and 36 SpA is random
nature: Timid

188 hp + 60 def lets the sub take Audino's Knock Off and gives Uxie a leftovers number

Tbolt in Moves only, Psyshock + Giga Drain / Dazzling Gleam is superior

As for the first set, the moves order should be Stealth Rock, Psychic, Thunder Wave, U-Turn. Knock Off and Heal Bell in moves. IDK about Relaxed and Sassy, seems useless to me, but eh. You might want other qcer's opinion on that.

Screens and Weather needs to be updated too
Yeah as far as set details and what not go I was planning on updating and then slipped my mind. As far as the current spread on the sub CM set goes, that was the one Zeb posted a while back and I had yet to find what they actually did. Giga is a better option to tbolt I agree. Will update with your spread.

As far as set order goes it was always flexible so ill update with your order.

Sassy and Relaxed are to make it so physical or special moves aren't piss weak while using them. Will update move order.

Will reread the whole thing and make changes accordingly.

Isn't there a hipster Anti-Lead set? With a power herb and Solar Beam and stuff? You could try putting that in OO? Kinda like an old Crustle set..? Does it catch anything off guard in particular...also why use weather Uxie over say...Prankster Liepard or Volbeat? Is the slow u-Turn enough? Becuase even Volbeat can do that! You might want to mention that Uxie is a lot easier to play now without stuff like Spiritomb,with its only commonly played stop being Liepard. Maybe suggest HP:Fighting for Probopass and Pawniard in the CM set? It's all good ^^
I'll make a mention of power herb solar beam in oo, could be decent vs quad weak setters. The reason to use Uxie for weather setting is the bulk it provides and the ability to setup stealth rocks, usually when building a rain team you want to have a bulky setter and a priority setter. The bulky setter should have Stealth Rock along with Rain Dance so it can setup both, and then the priority weather is for late in the match. As far as HP goes, it doesn't really provide enough coverage and power for Sub CM Uxie, giga drain hits Probopass and Dazzling Gleam hits Pawniard hard enough. Also it's more of a late game sweeper so threats like that should be taken care of before trying to set up.



Tl;dr I am on my phone atm and editing is a bitch, ill update sometime in the next couple of days and tag dat blast and soulgazer when I'm done
 

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Dat Blast I have changed the CM spread to Soulgazers. For the other spreads you said you like to run some speed, is it just speed creeping or is there a particular spread you like to use? If so what is it? Also what is your opinion on Relaxed and Sassy Nature on the Defensive Utility set? They allow for a slower Uturn, which makes it easier to bring stuff in, and they also make it so that Knock Off and U-turn (this matters to a lesser extent) arent piss weak when trying to attack something, ie a negative attack nature.


Soulgazer I have updated the CM set, and the set orders. I re-read over the analysis and I think aside from the natures on the defensive utility set, everything else is in order. When you said that screens and weather needed to be updated what did you mean by that? I went through and double checked that everything was still relevant.


If I missed something let me know otherwise any other suggestions are welcome.
 

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I meant the ev spreads. dual screens uxie should be max hp max speed lol, and maybe more teammates like hazard setters etc. same for weather. i didnt use those sets as much as the other two tho so if min speed is the way to go, then ignore this
 

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Dat Blast felt like speed was the way to go, however now that Shiftry is out of the tier, most defoggers are quite slow so Uxie can outspeed uninvested. The speed was originally so that you could Memento on Shiftry before it was able to Defog away the screens. The extra bulk allows Uxie to set up screens twice consistently in my experience with it. Maybe a little bit of speed wouldnt be a bad idea, but imo bulk over speed on that set.
 

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gleam is shit on SubCM. like the only things you hit with gleam that you don't hit with tbolt is cacturne and exeggutor. I'd rather see tbolt/hp fire there. tbolt hits gears, pawniard, and probopass, and hp fire hits steelix and ferroseed, though you set up all over seed anyways.

you can also mention 184 HP / 48 Def / 100 SpA / 176 Spe Timid for SubCM. It outruns Jolly Sawk and OHKOs it with +1 Psyshock. You need like max SpA to OHKO unboosted after Rocks or some shit like that, so it's not even worth it.

I think Scarf should get a set as well. It'd be Trick / Stealth Rock / U-turn / Zen Headbutt or Psychic, max Speed, lots of HP, leftover in Defense. I know it was a fun set in BW RU, and I've used it a couple times in NU this gen to some pretty good success.
 

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I mentioned HP fire in moves (although it seems a bit weak) and removed the slash leaving dazzling gleam / tbolt / hp fire in moves. mentioned your spread, and will bring up a scarf set with the rest of the team.
 
i feel like the stealth rock set should be listed first. you can just basically slap it on any team and it works, while the sub cm team requires one to build around it, or at least take care of its counters. as for effectiveness, they do completely different things so you can't really compare that

on the weather setter set i feel that you should only really have one of u turn or memento since they pretty much accomplish the same thing. thunder wave / psychic should probably be the last slot
 
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???

Does anyone think Yawn deserves a 'Moves' mention on the utility set? Bulky Yawn + U-turn is sick as hell, and nabs momentum on almost anything.
?.? I copied from Soulgazers post lol, didn't even notice. Gave Yawn a mention in utilities moves.
 

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