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I found the best Specs Hoopa check / counter

stealing scenarios like damn Daniel
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Latias @ Latiasite
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 136 SpD / 124 Spe
Calm Nature
- Reflect Type
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Recover

is it kevin durant and klefki? no, M E G A L A T I A S

Hoopa-U: I'm packin' these bool asf Specs, best set in the meta. reveal ur counter my nig
Mega Latias: k, lol. what's up boi?
252 SpA Choice Specs Hoopa Unbound Dark Pulse vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Mega Latias: 338-398 (93.1 - 109.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock lol
252 SpA Choice Specs Hoopa Unbound Dark Pulse vs. 248 HP / 136+ SpD Mega Latias: 139-165 (38.2 - 45.4%) -- 10.9% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Choice Specs Hoopa Unbound Focus Blast vs. 248 HP / 136+ SpD Mega Latias: 139-164 (38.2 - 45.1%) -- 9.4% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Choice Specs Hoopa Unbound Thunderbolt vs. 248 HP / 136+ SpD Mega Latias: 105-124 (28.9 - 34.1%) -- 99.8% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock
Yesiree, your Hoopa-U counter. You even outrun it. Basically in a 1v1 <-- (this is important) situation, Hoopa-U would decimate Mega Latias. But, that's because no one really uses Reflect Type .-. With Reflect Type you become the same type as Hoopa-U, meaning you can soak up all of it's hits easy as 1, 2, 3 and Recover off it's pitiful damage and wear it down with BoltBeam. Hell, if you wanna make your opponent cry you can use Calm Mind instead of one of your attacks for extra salt
Mega Latias is truly our lort and savior

shoutout to SketchUp for informing me of a better spread
 
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Tornadus-Therian @ Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 96 HP / 160 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Hurricane
- Superpower / Focus Blast / Heat Wave
- U-turn
- Knock Off

Tornadus-Therian can switch in on Focus Blast and survive one Specs-boosted Dark Pulse (or Thunderbolt if rocks aren't up), then OHKO Hoopa with U-Turn.

Offensive:
160 SpA Tornadus-T Hurricane vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Hoopa Unbound: 118-141 (39.2 - 46.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
0 Atk Tornadus-T Superpower vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Hoopa Unbound: 130-154 (43.1 - 51.1%) -- 5.5% chance to 2HKO
160 SpA Tornadus-T Focus Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Hoopa Unbound: 86-102 (28.5 - 33.8%) -- 0.5% chance to 3HKO
160 SpA Tornadus-T Heat Wave vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Hoopa Unbound: 68-81 (22.5 - 26.9%) -- 36.4% chance to 4HKO
0 Atk Tornadus-T U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Hoopa Unbound: 304-360 (100.9 - 119.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 Atk Tornadus-T Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Hoopa Unbound: 106-125 (35.2 - 41.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Defensive:
252 SpA Choice Specs Hoopa Unbound Dark Pulse vs. 96 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Tornadus-T: 175-207 (54.1 - 64%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Hoopa Unbound Focus Blast vs. 96 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Tornadus-T: 87-103 (26.9 - 31.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Hoopa Unbound Psyshock vs. 96 HP / 0- Def Tornadus-T: 322-379 (99.6 - 117.3%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Hoopa Unbound Thunderbolt vs. 96 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Tornadus-T: 262-310 (81.1 - 95.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
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Mandibuzz (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Overcoat
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpD / 8 Spe
Careful Nature
- Foul Play
- Roost
- Defog
- Taunt

SpD Mandi is a check to Specs Hoopa-U. Mandi's ability to check most other Hoopa-U variants also makes it a good Pokemon to scout what set the monster is running. It's immune to Psyshock and resists Dark Pulse, which only deals 21 - 24.8%. Seeing as Hoopa-U is spamming its STABS most of the time, Mandi's ability to stomach them is valuable. With a SpD spread, Mandi also avoids a 2HKO from Focus Blast (42.3 - 49.8%) when SR isn't in play. In return, Mandi threatens Hoopa-U back with Foul Play, which shaves 63.7 - 75% from its health assuming 0 IVs in attack. Like every check though, Mandibuzz still has to be careful switching in because it's fried by Thunderbolt and 2HKOed by Focus Blast with SR up. Keeping SR from going up helps you check Hoopa-U much better. Although Mandi can use Defog to help with SR prevention, you may opt to pair it with a more capable remover if you dislike its abilities as a Defogger and prefer using other options like Toxic or Knock Off instead.
 
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Okay, bailing on Zweilous, because I found some heat (don't worry it's crap)

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Gallade @ Galladite
Ability: Justified
EVs: 164 HP / 88 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- X-Scissor
- Drain Punch (or CC)
- Ice Punch / Fire Punch / Whatever you want to lure --> really though Gallade's movepool is silly
- Swords Dance


Mega Gallade switches in on anything and OHKOs back with x-scissor. If you get the justified boost, drain punch OHKOS. Focus bLaST-from-ThE-PAsT is a set up opportunity. The third move can be used to lure whatever the hell switches in on Gallade. You could creep mega gallade's speed down to beat Hoopa, but then you're using slow mega gallade so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Just want to point out that nearly every check/counter listed gets blown-TF-up by if Hoopa uses Psychic over Psyshock. NOT THIS Boiii

NO OHKOs AFTER PEBBLES HERE
(Though Psyshock kills regular gallade)

Against Gallade
252 SpA Choice Specs Hoopa Unbound Psyshock vs. 164 HP / 0 Def Mega Gallade: 250-295 (78.6 - 92.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Hoopa Unbound Focus Blast vs. 164 HP / 4 SpD Mega Gallade: 106-125 (33.3 - 39.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Hoopa Unbound Psychic vs. 164 HP / 4 SpD Mega Gallade: 238-282 (74.8 - 88.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Hoopa Unbound Dark Pulse vs. 164 HP / 4 SpD Mega Gallade: 211-250 (66.3 - 78.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Hoopa Unbound Thunderbolt vs. 164 HP / 4 SpD Mega Gallade: 159-188 (50 - 59.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


Against Hoopa
88 Atk Mega Gallade X-Scissor vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Hoopa Unbound: 572-676 (190 - 224.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO OUCH
+1 88 Atk Mega Gallade Drain Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Hoopa Unbound: 301-355 (100 - 117.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO DAMN

in case you have ants in yer britches over drain punch:

88 Atk Mega Gallade Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Hoopa Unbound: 321-378 (106.6 - 125.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO o wut a surprise


Against Hoopa's Partners
+1 88 Atk Mega Gallade Ice Punch vs. 252 HP / 164+ Def TANKCHOMP: 428-508 (101.9 - 120.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO O SHIT
+1 88 Atk Mega Gallade Fire Punch vs. 248 HP / 0+ Def Mega Scizor: 360-428 (104.9 - 124.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO GET OBLITERATED SKRUB

At +2 you kill what u want and get som of that gud HP back

 
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Voting:

(24!) Checks:

x AV Escavalier
ix Scarftar
vii Tornadus-T
vi Mandibuzz
vi Mega Gardevoir
vi AV Azu
v Reflect Type Mega Latias
iv U-turn Gliscor
iii AV Signal Beam Hoopa-U
iii Mega Audino
ii Garchomp
ii Mega Gallade
ii Mega Lopunny
i Jirachi
i Mega Scizor
i Zygarde
i Klefki
Mega Swampert
Mega Beedrill
DD Dragonite
Talonflame
Dugtrio
Hydreigon
Weavile

You may vote for 4 checks. Also, I don't think I missed any, but if I did, please let me know asap. :)​
 
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Week 96: Thanks guys for all the votes on checks to Specs Hoopa-U! Here are the results (also, the voting post was preserved):

Checks: Scarf Tyranitar (NotFalse) | AV Escavalier (Vore Gidal) | AV Tornadus-T (InvisibleWater)
Mandibuzz (Infernal) | Mega Gardevoir (CrystalRam) | AV Azumarill (michaeloche)

Week 97: DD Zygarde

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Zygarde @ Lum Berry / Yache Berry
Ability: Aura Break
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant / Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Outrage / Stone Edge
- Extremespeed
 
skarmory as a counter
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Skarmory @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 248 SpD / 8 Spe
Careful Nature
- Spikes
- Roost
- Whirlwind
- Iron Head / Brave Bird

even though its specially defensive, skarmory still does a decent job at handling zygarde because it resists outrage and extremespeed, is immune to earthquake, and coverage in stone edge is fairly uncommon but it still can't touch skarm.

skarmory is free to sit there and spike on zygarde, force it out with whirlwind and chip at it with iron head or brave bird.

+1 252+ Atk Zygarde Outrage vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Skarmory: 100-118 (29.9 - 35.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252+ Atk Zygarde Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Skarmory: 112-132 (33.5 - 39.5%) -- 22.5% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

0 Atk Skarmory Iron Head vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Zygarde: 61-73 (17 - 20.3%) -- possible 5HKO
0 Atk Skarmory Brave Bird vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Zygarde: 93-109 (25.9 - 30.4%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
 
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Klefki @ Leftovers
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Play Rough
- Spikes
- Thunder Wave
- Magnet Rise

Although it obviously can't switch into an Earthquake, Klefki can easily win 1v1 since it can just Magnet Rise to gain a Ground immunity. After that, the best Zygarde can do against it is Stone Edge which deals little damage to it, while while Klefki can hit it back with Play Rough.

+2 252+ Atk Zygarde Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Klefki: 76-90 (23.8 - 28.3%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery

0 Atk Klefki Play Rough vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Zygarde: 138-164 (38.5 - 45.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
 
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