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Project Victim of the Week
- Thread starter Aragorn the King
- Start date
Breloom can OHKO Crawdaunt with Mach Punch and can resist a Aqua Jet.
Its damaged from Knock Off anc Crabhammer seccuring 2HKO but priority Mach Punch gives OHKo being faster than Crawdaunt.
Other Grass types like Chenaught resists both STABS but loses versus Air Slash or Blizzard variants. Mega venusaur, virizion whos benefit from Knock Off due to Defiant,
Whismicoot, Ferro and Tangrowth.
Mega Abosmanow can deal with Crawdaunt, but cannot resist a Knock Off +2 before SR. Also amoongus
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Toxicroak and Heliolisk can OHKO Crawdaunt with a Fighting STAB move and their inmunity to water due to their ability, Dry Skin.
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Pokemon like Azumarill, Gyarados, Blastoise and Poliwrath who can take Crawdaunt's STAB and OHKO him with Fairy o Fighting moves.
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Mega altaria resists both STAB and OHKo Crawdaunt with Hyper Voice. It will be a total counter unless Crawdaunt runs Blizzard.
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Rotom W resists both STABS and outspeeds Crawdaunt but Knock off its a threat to him.
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Faster Electric types like Zapdos and Manetric can outspeed Crawdaunt and OHKO him.
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Priority users like Gale Wings TF can outpriority Crawdaunt and OHKO him with Brave Bird.
Its damaged from Knock Off anc Crabhammer seccuring 2HKO but priority Mach Punch gives OHKo being faster than Crawdaunt.
Other Grass types like Chenaught resists both STABS but loses versus Air Slash or Blizzard variants. Mega venusaur, virizion whos benefit from Knock Off due to Defiant,
Whismicoot, Ferro and Tangrowth.
Mega Abosmanow can deal with Crawdaunt, but cannot resist a Knock Off +2 before SR. Also amoongus
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Toxicroak and Heliolisk can OHKO Crawdaunt with a Fighting STAB move and their inmunity to water due to their ability, Dry Skin.
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Pokemon like Azumarill, Gyarados, Blastoise and Poliwrath who can take Crawdaunt's STAB and OHKO him with Fairy o Fighting moves.
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Mega altaria resists both STAB and OHKo Crawdaunt with Hyper Voice. It will be a total counter unless Crawdaunt runs Blizzard.
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Rotom W resists both STABS and outspeeds Crawdaunt but Knock off its a threat to him.
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Faster Electric types like Zapdos and Manetric can outspeed Crawdaunt and OHKO him.
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Priority users like Gale Wings TF can outpriority Crawdaunt and OHKO him with Brave Bird.
Week 114: Thanks for all the votes, and sorry for the delay. Here are the results:
Checks: Keldeo (ericaroselia) | Breloom (Skarmx2) | Dragonite (Jeronado)
Counters: Chesnaught (detviech) | Mega Altaria (noobcubed) | Mega Venusaur (Recreant)
Week 115: Belly Drum Azumarill
Azumarill @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 92 HP / 252 Atk / 164 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Belly Drum
- Aqua Jet
- Play Rough
- Knock Off
Checks: Keldeo (ericaroselia) | Breloom (Skarmx2) | Dragonite (Jeronado)
Counters: Chesnaught (detviech) | Mega Altaria (noobcubed) | Mega Venusaur (Recreant)
Week 115: Belly Drum Azumarill
Azumarill @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 92 HP / 252 Atk / 164 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Belly Drum
- Aqua Jet
- Play Rough
- Knock Off
Mega Venusaur
Venusaur-Mega @ Venusaurite
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 248 HP / 96 Def / 144 SpD / 20 Spe
Bold Nature
- Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb
- Synthesis
- Knock Off/ Hidden Power [Fire]
Mega Venusaur is a great azumarill's counter, due to its typing which allows it to tank aqua jet and play rough well. Thank to its bulkiness it can tank knock off too, also if azumarill is a fast version.
Calcs
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 248 HP / 96+ Def Mega Venusaur: 63-75 (17.3 - 20.6%) -- possible 5HKO
+6 252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 248 HP / 96+ Def Mega Venusaur: 250-295 (68.8 - 81.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Knock Off vs. 248 HP / 96+ Def Mega Venusaur: 61-72 (16.8 - 19.8%)
+6 252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Knock Off vs. 248 HP / 96+ Def Mega Venusaur: 242-285 (66.6 - 78.5%)
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 248 HP / 96+ Def Mega Venusaur: 28-33 (7.7 - 9%)
+6 252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 248 HP / 96+ Def Mega Venusaur: 111-132 (30.5 - 36.3%) -- 55.7% chance to 3HKO
+6 252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 248 HP / 96+ Def Mega Venusaur: 250-295 (68.8 - 81.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Knock Off vs. 248 HP / 96+ Def Mega Venusaur: 61-72 (16.8 - 19.8%)
+6 252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Knock Off vs. 248 HP / 96+ Def Mega Venusaur: 242-285 (66.6 - 78.5%)
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 248 HP / 96+ Def Mega Venusaur: 28-33 (7.7 - 9%)
+6 252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 248 HP / 96+ Def Mega Venusaur: 111-132 (30.5 - 36.3%) -- 55.7% chance to 3HKO
Toxicroak as a check:
Toxicroak @ Life Orb
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Drain Punch
- Gunk Shot
- Sucker Punch
Toxicroak is a great answer to BD Azu, as while it can't really switch in due to fear of Play Rough (it does have only a 25% chance to OHKO after Rocks, but no human is risking that, lol), it can easily revenge a +6 Azu, being immune to Aqua Jet and being able to OHKO back with Gunk Shot.
252 Atk Life Orb Toxicroak Gunk Shot vs. 92 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 530-627 (145.6 - 172.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Toxicroak @ Life Orb
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Drain Punch
- Gunk Shot
- Sucker Punch
Toxicroak is a great answer to BD Azu, as while it can't really switch in due to fear of Play Rough (it does have only a 25% chance to OHKO after Rocks, but no human is risking that, lol), it can easily revenge a +6 Azu, being immune to Aqua Jet and being able to OHKO back with Gunk Shot.
252 Atk Life Orb Toxicroak Gunk Shot vs. 92 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 530-627 (145.6 - 172.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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Reserving Tentacruel
Tentacruel @ Black Sludge/Rocky Helmet
- Scald
- Rapid Spin
- Acid Spray/Toxic Spikes
- Haze
EVs: 248 HP / 216 Def / 28 SpD / 16 Spe
Timid Nature
Tentacruel switches in as Azumarill Belly Drums, and takes around 50% from Aqua Jet before it gets a chance to use Haze, at which point Azumarill is pretty much useless. It can't do all that much back, but Azumarill nonetheless presents Tentacruel with free turns for hazard control, and will likely switch out anyway to avoid a Scald burn.
Tentacruel @ Black Sludge/Rocky Helmet
- Scald
- Rapid Spin
- Acid Spray/Toxic Spikes
- Haze
EVs: 248 HP / 216 Def / 28 SpD / 16 Spe
Timid Nature
Tentacruel switches in as Azumarill Belly Drums, and takes around 50% from Aqua Jet before it gets a chance to use Haze, at which point Azumarill is pretty much useless. It can't do all that much back, but Azumarill nonetheless presents Tentacruel with free turns for hazard control, and will likely switch out anyway to avoid a Scald burn.
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Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Thunder Wave
- Wish
- Protect
Role: Check
While most Clefable sets are setup bait for Azumarill, Unaware Clefable is not, especially if running a fully physdef spread. You can even bait it into using Belly Drum (or switch in on it) as long as it has not figured out your set yet. Moonblast will 2HKO Azumarill after rocks, BD, and Sitrus Berry. Azumarill is faster, but Thunder Wave can help with that. Be careful of Knock Off, however, as Play Rough has about a 45% chance to 2HKO after rocks if Leftovers are gone.
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Clefable: 157-186 (39.9 - 47.3%) -- 45.3% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock (1.2% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery)
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Clefable: 70-84 (17.8 - 21.3%) -- possible 6HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
0 SpA Clefable Moonblast vs. 92 HP / 0 SpD Azumarill: 118-141 (32.4 - 38.7%) -- 98.4% chance to 3HKO (guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock)
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Clefable: 70-84 (17.8 - 21.3%) -- possible 6HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
0 SpA Clefable Moonblast vs. 92 HP / 0 SpD Azumarill: 118-141 (32.4 - 38.7%) -- 98.4% chance to 3HKO (guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock)
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Check
Volcanion @ Choice Specs
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Steam Eruption
- Flamethrower
- Sludge Bomb
- Hidden Power Grass / Earth Power
Volcanion is a fantastic switch-in to Azumarill, as, thanks to Water Absorb, it is immune to Aqua Jet (and recovers any health lost if it switches in on that) and resists Play Rough. In return, it can do massive damage with Steam Eruption if predicting a switch or straight up OHKO with Sludge Bomb. It's not really a solid counter because Knock Off takes a decent chunk of HP and makes Volcanion lose its Choice Specs which blows, and repeated switch ins to Stealth Rock can wear it down, but it's certainly one of the best offensive checks available.
252+ SpA Choice Specs Volcanion Sludge Bomb vs. 92 HP / 0 SpD Azumarill: 388-458 (106.5 - 125.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Volcanion: 76-90 (20.8 - 24.7%) -- guaranteed 5HKO
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Volcanion: 110-130 (30.2 - 35.7%) -- 35.6% chance to 3HKO
Volcanion @ Choice Specs
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Steam Eruption
- Flamethrower
- Sludge Bomb
- Hidden Power Grass / Earth Power
Volcanion is a fantastic switch-in to Azumarill, as, thanks to Water Absorb, it is immune to Aqua Jet (and recovers any health lost if it switches in on that) and resists Play Rough. In return, it can do massive damage with Steam Eruption if predicting a switch or straight up OHKO with Sludge Bomb. It's not really a solid counter because Knock Off takes a decent chunk of HP and makes Volcanion lose its Choice Specs which blows, and repeated switch ins to Stealth Rock can wear it down, but it's certainly one of the best offensive checks available.
252+ SpA Choice Specs Volcanion Sludge Bomb vs. 92 HP / 0 SpD Azumarill: 388-458 (106.5 - 125.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Volcanion: 76-90 (20.8 - 24.7%) -- guaranteed 5HKO
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Volcanion: 110-130 (30.2 - 35.7%) -- 35.6% chance to 3HKO
Whimsicott! as Check
Whimsicott @ Leftovers
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Giga Drain
- Moonblast
- U-turn
- Encore
Whimsicott is oddly a great check to Azu, as with full investment it's suprisingly bulky. While it can come in and live any two hits thanks to leftovers, I've chosen it as a check because any slight chip damage and it's not stomaching 2 Play Roughs without healing from giga drain, which doesn't OHKO (even after a BD).
However, it can switch in on absolutely any attack, and proceed to heal off the damage. But what really makes Whimsi act as a great answer is Encore; if Azu proceeds to Belly Drum on the switch, you can fire off an Encore and lock him into it, making it set up bait or simply beatable with 2 Giga Drains! And to add to it, its not even 2HKOed by +6 Aqua Jet.
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Whimsicott: 144-169 (44.4 - 52.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Whimsicott: 144-169 (44.4 - 52.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 SpA Whimsicott Giga Drain vs. 92 HP / 0 SpD Azumarill: 158-188 (43.4 - 51.6%) -- 9.4% chance to 2HKO
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Counter: Mega Aggron
Mega Aggron is a great azu counter, not only it resist play rough, it can also hit back azumarill with heavy slam for HEAVY damage. c: +6 Play Rough is barley a 2 hit ko to Mega Aggron. And non boosted play rough does jack shit to M-Aggron. Well in the other hand, mega aggron can 100% 2 hit ko azu.
+6 252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 16+ Def Mega Aggron: 153-180 (44.4 - 52.3%) -- 19.9% chance to 2HKO (play rough can miss :D)
+6 252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 252 HP / 16+ Def Mega Aggron: 136-162 (39.5 - 47%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+6 252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Knock Off vs. 252 HP / 16+ Def Mega Aggron: 148-175 (43 - 50.8%) -- 3.9% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 16+ Def Mega Aggron: 38-45 (11 - 13%) -- possible 8HKO
0 Atk Mega Aggron Heavy Slam (120 BP) vs. 92 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 208-246 (57.1 - 67.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+6 252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 252 HP / 16+ Def Mega Aggron: 136-162 (39.5 - 47%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+6 252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Knock Off vs. 252 HP / 16+ Def Mega Aggron: 148-175 (43 - 50.8%) -- 3.9% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 16+ Def Mega Aggron: 38-45 (11 - 13%) -- possible 8HKO
0 Atk Mega Aggron Heavy Slam (120 BP) vs. 92 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 208-246 (57.1 - 67.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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Quagsire @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Earthquake
- Scald
- Recover
- Toxic / Encore / Curse
Quag shrugs off azu's hits before bd and ignores boosts with unaware, easily stalling it out with toxic or scald burns, or even setting up with curse.
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Quagsire: 144-169 (36.5 - 42.8%) -- 97.8% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
Sceptile @ Sceptilite
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Dragon Pulse
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power Fire / Focus Blast
Status: Check
Outspeeds Azumarill, has a quadruple resistance to Aqua Jet, and OHKOs with Leaf Storm. Obviously can't switch in because it's a Dragon-type and Play Rough really hurts it.
+6 252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Sceptile: 100-118 (35.5 - 41.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Mega Sceptile Leaf Storm vs. 92 HP / 0 SpD Azumarill: 554-654 (152.1 - 179.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
isn't this a counter though?
Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Thunder Wave
- Wish
- Protect
Role: Check
While most Clefable sets are setup bait for Azumarill, Unaware Clefable is not, especially if running a fully physdef spread. You can even bait it into using Belly Drum (or switch in on it) as long as it has not figured out your set yet. Moonblast will 2HKO Azumarill after rocks, BD, and Sitrus Berry. Azumarill is faster, but Thunder Wave can help with that. Be careful of Knock Off, however, as Play Rough has about a 45% chance to 2HKO after rocks if Leftovers are gone.
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Clefable: 157-186 (39.9 - 47.3%) -- 45.3% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock (1.2% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery)
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Clefable: 70-84 (17.8 - 21.3%) -- possible 6HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
0 SpA Clefable Moonblast vs. 92 HP / 0 SpD Azumarill: 118-141 (32.4 - 38.7%) -- 98.4% chance to 3HKO (guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock)
Latios @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Thunderbolt
- Defog / Roost
Status: Check
A one-time check to Belly Drum Azumarill. It outspeeds Azumarill, forcing it to use Aqua Jet (Latios can take a +6 one barring a crit) and KOes back with Thunderbolt. Unlike Psyshock, Thunderbolt always OHKOes Azumarill after Belly Drum HP loss + Sitrus recovery (Psyshock doesn't always KO 75% HP Azumarill even after Stealth Rock, as SR removes 45 HP, then Belly Drum + Sitrus puts Azu at 228 HP and you have only a 37.5% chance to KO Azu from there).
Against Latios:
+6 252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Latios: 190-224 (63.5 - 74.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Against Azumarill:
252 SpA Life Orb Latios Psyshock vs. 92 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 207-243 (56.8 - 66.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Latios Thunderbolt vs. 92 HP / 0 SpD Azumarill: 309-364 (84.8 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
+6 252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Latios: 190-224 (63.5 - 74.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Against Azumarill:
252 SpA Life Orb Latios Psyshock vs. 92 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 207-243 (56.8 - 66.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Latios Thunderbolt vs. 92 HP / 0 SpD Azumarill: 309-364 (84.8 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
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Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split
Because the listed variant of Azumarill is adamant as opposed to jolly, slow Rotom-W is able to take it on reasonably consistently courtesy of it's resistance to Aqua Jet and it's ability to hit Azumarill super effectively with Volt Switch--stopping it from being able to Belly Drum before it is taken down.
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-W: 123-145 (40.5 - 47.8%) -- 5.9% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
While it is by definition, in practice it isn't really consistent enough to be called a counter because it has to alternate between Wish and Protect to really take it on at all. This is a much more abusable thing than simply recovering every turn, and combined with how easy it is to ware Clefable into range of 2 Play Roughs due to the lack of either Magic Guard or Softboiled and how easy it is to simply knock it's Leftovers off to stop it taking 2 hits after Stealth Rock, it is in a similar position to Heatran versus MG+CM Clefable in that it isn't a true counter.
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Ludicolo
Ludicolo @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Giga Drain
- Ice Beam
- Focus Blast
Because of its typing ludicolo takes very little from aqua jet and OHKOs azu with giga drain.
Ludicolo @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Giga Drain
- Ice Beam
- Focus Blast
Because of its typing ludicolo takes very little from aqua jet and OHKOs azu with giga drain.
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Checks:
Ludicolo
Rotom-W
Unaware Clefable
Thunderbolt Latios
Mega Sceptile
Serperior
Zapdos
Whimsicott
Toxicroak
Volcanion
Tentacruel
Counters:
Mega Venusaur
Itemless Amoonguss
Quagsire
Mega Aggron
You may vote for 2 checks and 1 counter.
Ludicolo
Rotom-W
Unaware Clefable
Thunderbolt Latios
Mega Sceptile
Serperior
Zapdos
Whimsicott
Toxicroak
Volcanion
Tentacruel
Counters:
Mega Venusaur
Itemless Amoonguss
Quagsire
Mega Aggron
You may vote for 2 checks and 1 counter.
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Volcanion
Toxicroak
Mega Venusaur
Toxicroak
Mega Venusaur
Mega Sceptile, Serperior
Mega Venusaur
Mega Venusaur