Warning! Massive hail storm is coming!

[slayer124]

Warning! Massive hail storm is coming!

This is my second attemp to build hail team. I make my team rather offensive team than stall or defensive team which is majority of hail user do. I think i cover many of threat except very popular gengar but i think my team would have problem. Moreover, my team doesn't have good lead.

Machamp @leftover
Ability: No Guard
Nature: Adamant
EV's: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Spe
-Dynamic Punch
-Stone Edge
-Rest
-Sleep Talk

Role:
Solid Tyranitar counter which my team desperately need. He resist all of Tyranitar's STAB attack and have neutrality on all other his attack. Dynamic Punch is very good STAB attack when combined with his trait, no guard, and fear off Weavile, Tyranitar who otherwise killing team very easily. Stone Edge is for taking down Gengar and flier especially Gyarados. Rest+Sleep Talk provide fine status absorber and sleep talker.

Why did you use RestTalk Machamp over Hariyama
-better attack and his trait no guard which completely negate horrible accuracy of stone edge
-status absorber and sleep talker
-my team is not a stall hail team
-Heatran and tentacruel already give fire and ice coverage
-My team is gengar weak and miss of stone edge is deadly

(look like a bird....)
Abomasnow @Choice Scarf
Ability: Snow Warning
Nature: Hasty
EV's: 252 Atk / 6 SpA / 252 Spe
-Blizzard
-Wood Hammer
-Earthquake
-Focus Punch

Role:
Mixed attacking Yeti with Choice Scarf. Yes, Abomasnow does have crappy speed and average stat overall but with help of Choice Scarf and his STAB 120 BP he can nullify that problem. Moreover, this Yeti more suit to my offensive hail team than any other set of Abomasnow. I think Sword Dance set is crappy because of Abomasnow's frailness and crappy speed and Choice Band set and Choice Spec set don't abuse his good attack move overall. Of course, this guys problem is it need to switch out a lot. However, Tentacruel spin away hazardous Stealth Rock and make this guy ramapage more against other team.

Why did you use Abomasnow
-This is hail team
-Counter Water Type Poke

Zapdos @Leftover
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Bold
EV's: 252 HP / 220 Def / 36 Spe
-Thunderbolt
-Hidden Power Ice
-Roost
-Light Screen/ Refelct

Role:
Defensive Zapdos here. He can dish out the damage of Heracross, Gyarados, Salamence, Metagross fairly nicely. He is fairly nice wall when count the fact that he have only two weakness which is ice and rock (Pretty common attack in OU though) I don't know what move to use in fourth slot though. Light Screen will helps team defensive side but Reflect will help out the fact that Zapdos is only pokemon that stops Fighter.

Why do you use Zapdos
-Good Team Player
-Physical Wall
-Counter heracross, Gyarados, Salamence, Metagross

Tentacruel @Leftover
Ability: Liquid Ooze
Nature: Calm
EV's: 204 HP / 96 SpA / 172 SpD / 36 Spe
-Surf
-Blizzard
-Rapid Spin
-Toxic Spike

Role:
Tentacruel is one of pokemon that greatly boosted in D/P. He jump from UU to OU. He safely counter dangerous foe like Infernape and absorb special attack crazy with his impressive special defense (HP is not impressive though) Rapid Spin is always welcome on hail team since it cleans out dangerous stealth rock. Toxic Spike to make Mamoswine sweep much easier.

Why do you use Tentacruel??
-Rapid Spin
-Infernape Counter
-Special Wall
-Abuse improved Blizzard
-Absorb Toxic Spike without harmed by it

Mamoswine @Life Orb
Ability: Snow Cloak
Nature: Naughty
EV's: 252 Atk / 20 SpA / 236 Spe
-Earthquake
-Ice Shard
-Blizzard
-Stone Edge

Role:
Mixed Sweeper. STAB Blizzard 2HKO enemy Skarmory, Weezing. OHKO enemy ngrowth, Gliscor, Donphan and take a very large chunk out of Hippowdon.

Why do you use Mamoswine??
-Physical Sweeping
-Dragon Killer
-Abomasnow's snow warning triggers Mamoswine's snow cloak and increase evasion rate

Heatran @Choice Scarf
Ability: Flash Fire
Nature: Modest
EV's: 40 HP / 252 SpA / 216 Spe
-Hidden Power Ice
-Fire Blast
-Earth Power
-Explosion

Role:
Special Sweeper, Azelf counter, revenge killer, and fire absorber. STAB Fire Blast OHKO Azelf almost always and if he get sun boost or flash fire boost it spell death to anything that doesn't resist fire. Earth Power is for other heatran, tyranitar, and rhyinferior (I know correct name but.) Explosion takes out blissey.

Why do you use Heatran?
-Ice and Fire immunity and resistance
-Special Sweeping
-Counter Azelf
-Provide other handy resistance too except very weak to ground, water, and fighting which my other pokemon resist or immune to
-Revenge Killing is fun

I am too lazy to write threat list and commenting so i am not going to add threat list

 

[azntrumpet]

You say you're not running a hail stall team, yet your two biggest threats are choiced. Your not going to sweep anyone with just choiced threats. Use Life Orb and max speed with a Naive nature, to have an extremely potent late-game threat.

Watch out for CB Staraptor, as, given the right attack, it 2HKO's any given switchin. You also seem Gyrados weak, as after one DD has the ability to OHKO your entire team using Max Attack, Life Orb, and EQ/Waterfall/Stone Edge. Machamp has a good chance to survive though taking 85.94% - 101.04%. Unfortunately, with a layer of Spikes or if Machamp is asleep, you are in deep trouble.

Pretty solid compared to most Hail teams though, good job.

 

[Spiritman]

What can i say xD...
I dont like the offensive Hail teams, idk, they dont quite convince me.
Hail is way better over sandstorm if the primary intention is to make indirect damage. but i dont see it helping quite a lot here. yeah you made a pretty well balanced team, but only mamoswine gets help of the Hail, because Abomasnow doesnt seem to help much...
i think that if you wanna use him more you should abuse his capacity on going out with no problem onto waters, and give him wood hammer.
the mix set goes like this:
Blizzard, Wood hammer, Protect & Leech seed.
you can still leech seed and protect, which do help a lot, even more when speaking about hail. Wood hammer hits those waters good, and gives abomasnow a nice coverage between Blizz and Wood hammer.

I would fix that only, to really call it a Hail team, cuz now you could use 2 ice pokes =).

Now talking about the team generally, it looks well balanced in exeption of what azntrumpet said before, Gyarados runs over you most of the time...
for that you can try another bulky water with Hp electric instead of Tentacruel.
you can call it Milotic, Slowbro, Suicune, Vaporeon...
They all can Blizzard 2 o.o! and Milotic & vaporeon still wall Mixape pretty decently.

So thats it for now, Good luck =).
C-ya!

 

[Wayff]

Spiritman, offensive Hail teams are great. I ran one way back with just Abomasnow and Mamoswine, and it was great. The reason Mamoswine and Abomasnow are the only abusers of hail is because Ice is a bad defensive type. On Machamp, I'd change the EVs a little bit, and give it 8 Speed instead to outspeed 4 speed Blissey. Few things here... few things there... Gliscor dosen't help Hail teams that much from my experience, so the first thing I'd do is replace it with a Calm Zapdos. Use Thunderbolt/HP Ice/Roost/Light Screen or Roar. One thing that seems intresting is Sleep Power Jumpluff. It might not work well on this team, but it's great. Sleep Power/U-Turn/Encore/Stun Spore or Reflect. You sleep them, U-Turn to Abomasnow, get a Sub up, and start sweeping. Change Tentacruel to Surf/Toxic Spikes/HP Electric/Rapid Spin. You get offensive damage so Mamoswine can sweep easier. Give Mamoswine Life Orb, it gives you a much better chance of 2HKOing Skarmory. By the way, change Heatran to Resttalk.

 

[slayer124]

What can i say xD...
I dont like the offensive Hail teams, idk, they dont quite convince me.
Hail is way better over sandstorm if the primary intention is to make indirect damage. but i dont see it helping quite a lot here. yeah you made a pretty well balanced team, but only mamoswine gets help of the Hail, because Abomasnow doesnt seem to help much...
i think that if you wanna use him more you should abuse his capacity on going out with no problem onto waters, and give him wood hammer.
the mix set goes like this:
Blizzard, Wood hammer, Protect & Leech seed.
you can still leech seed and protect, which do help a lot, even more when speaking about hail. Wood hammer hits those waters good, and gives abomasnow a nice coverage between Blizz and Wood hammer.

I would fix that only, to really call it a Hail team, cuz now you could use 2 ice pokes =).

Now talking about the team generally, it looks well balanced in exeption of what azntrumpet said before, Gyarados runs over you most of the time...
for that you can try another bulky water with Hp electric instead of Tentacruel.
you can call it Milotic, Slowbro, Suicune, Vaporeon...
They all can Blizzard 2 o.o! and Milotic & vaporeon still wall Mixape pretty decently.

So thats it for now, Good luck =).
C-ya!

I know what you are saying there but i think two ice user is enough for the hail team. If i use three ice poke on my team, yes i can take advantage of hail more. However, it gives a team 3 weakness to ever common fighting which mean fighter like Lucario, Heracross easily devastate my team while my team's only hope against them is Gliscor. I use Tentacruel over Milotic, Slowbro, Suicune, and Vaporeon because Tentacruel can spin away the annoying stealth rock for my team and serve as special wall also which they can't do. I know Gyarados and Gengar will cause me a deep trouble that's why i use taunt on Gliscor and RestTalk Machamp. In addition, Offensive Hail team doesn't seem sound oxymoron since it can take advayage of 100% accurate Blizzard. I use SubSeed Abomasnow because it fares better against Tyranitar and Weavile and he can still kills water if i don't let them having CM too much. I think my team is decent or more than decent hail team which is you guys opinion?? Wayff. If i use Calm Zapdos, it mean my team will devastate by fighter?? Because lots of them carry Stone Edge which is very much ouch to Zapdos. I use Scarf Heatran to kill off Annoying Azelf without taking hit by Azelf's Hidden Power Fighting and to function as sort of revenge killer. Is RestTalk Heatran can counter Azelf still?? Isn't it one sleep talker on the team enough??

 

[slayer124]

24 hour bump

 

[Odinwolf]

Hail teams don't have to be all about the hail. The weather effects can be used to negate leftovers (which hurts stall teams) and to support a few pokes that can abuse it for terrific effect. It can also just be a method to keep SS teams from getting set up and abusing Garchomp. As powerful and common as Garchomp is, using hail just to make his entry and effectiveness lower is a reasonably reason to run hail.

That said, I've had a lot of experience with Abomasnow and I feel like a more attacking oriented set would synergize better with this team. SubSeeding can work, but the scarf set from the analysis might work better on a team that tries to be offensive. It will make you more vulnerable to rocks/spikes, since you'll be switching more often, but with a spinner on your team you can afford to work that way. Afterall, an offensive team that's reacting instead of forcing the opponent to react is usually in serious trouble.

 

[Spiritman]

I know what you are saying there but i think two ice user is enough for the hail team. If i use three ice poke on my team, yes i can take advantage of hail more. However, it gives a team 3 weakness to ever common fighting which mean fighter like Lucario, Heracross easily devastate my team while my team's only hope against them is Gliscor. I use Tentacruel over Milotic, Slowbro, Suicune, and Vaporeon because Tentacruel can spin away the annoying stealth rock for my team and serve as special wall also which they can't do. I know Gyarados and Gengar will cause me a deep trouble that's why i use taunt on Gliscor and RestTalk Machamp. In addition, Offensive Hail team doesn't seem sound oxymoron since it can take advayage of 100% accurate Blizzard. I use SubSeed Abomasnow because it fares better against Tyranitar and Weavile and he can still kills water if i don't let them having CM too much. I think my team is decent or more than decent hail team which is you guys opinion?? Wayff. If i use Calm Zapdos, it mean my team will devastate by fighter?? Because lots of them carry Stone Edge which is very much ouch to Zapdos. I use Scarf Heatran to kill off Annoying Azelf without taking hit by Azelf's Hidden Power Fighting and to function as sort of revenge killer. Is RestTalk Heatran can counter Azelf still?? Isn't it one sleep talker on the team enough??

in my hail team I use only 2 ice pokes. but rly what i ment is that abomasnow didnt look like he was doing a lot.
Zapdos does help you, and im not that sure about Sleep talk heatran.
Nice team, its going preetty good, and you convinced me to like em. xD!

C-ya!

 

[Wayff]

Uh, what's the point of a Hail Team without Abomasnow? Also, RestTalk Heatran is great. Why don't you make Zapdos Calm? Calm Zapdos is awesome. Spiritman, I seriously think you need more experiece before you start posting random things.

 

[slayer124]

Uh, what's the point of a Hail Team without Abomasnow? Also, RestTalk Heatran is great. Why don't you make Zapdos Calm? Calm Zapdos is awesome. Spiritman, I seriously think you need more experiece before you start posting random things.

I don't make Heatran as RestTalk because i think two rest talker is kinda redundant to the team. I use Bold Zapdos to soak up physical hit better since i don't have good physical wall. Also, make Zapdos Bold and Heatran as Choice Scarfer better against Gyarados and Azelf.

 

[Spiritman]

Uh, what's the point of a Hail Team without Abomasnow? Also, RestTalk Heatran is great. Why don't you make Zapdos Calm? Calm Zapdos is awesome. Spiritman, I seriously think you need more experiece before you start posting random things.

Read, then criticize ;)
Never said to take out aboma, just to make him better =).
and he already answered y not sleep talk heatran : )!
Cya!

 

[Wayff]

Whatever. Also, RestTalk Heatran actually DOES go well with this team because it helps you cover your somewhat Heatran weakness. (Starmie is a 3HKO tbh) As wierd as this may sound, I'd scarf Abomasnow and give it enough speed to beat Adamant Lucario. By the way, if you don't know how good RestTalk Heatran is, all the "good" players use it.

 

[slayer124]

Whatever. Also, RestTalk Heatran actually DOES go well with this team because it helps you cover your somewhat Heatran weakness. (Starmie is a 3HKO tbh) As wierd as this may sound, I'd scarf Abomasnow and give it enough speed to beat Adamant Lucario. By the way, if you don't know how good RestTalk Heatran is, all the "good" players use it.

Stop Bragging yourself. Are you saying this to me or say to spiritman?? I got RestTalk Heatran is good by seeing you recommend RestlTalk Heatran on every single hail team but Choice Scarf Heatran is actually good too and you are forcing them to make their team on your way. Moreover, i never totally reject your idea of using RestTalk Heatran but i just thought it is kinda redundant. If you want to recommend a poke please put the Solid reason. I already scarfed Obama but just i forget to change the item. However, you can know it by reading description carefully. I don't see all good player use only RestTalk Heatran. I see the RMT of many solid player and i found that they aren't just use RestTalk Heatran. Some use Choice Scarf. Some use Choice Spec. Some use RestTalk Heatran. I have seen usage of RestTalk Heatran is rising but it is not always and must. RestTalk Heatran is not domineering set for Heatran like Choice Scarf Gengar was and Life Orb Gengar now. I think using Choice Scarf Heatran is not an bad idea also.

 

[Wayff]

Actually, I'm not bragging, and I'm very serious. Two Revenge Killers aren't absolutely needed. My point? You don't use some kind of Pokemon because it's good, you use it because it's useful for your team. Hail teams really hate Thunder Wavers and thus you can do with another RestTalker. Also, I've used a Machamp lead before, it dies before you can kill Blissey with it. Or you can run Specs Heatran. Specs Heatran is great. A wish passer in here could be useful. Celebi actually works well on Hail teams. It takes Fighting moves like a pro and can set up Stealth Rock, something every team needs. If you don't have Stealth Rock, it's not as easy as win as before. Not even nearly as easy. I suggest you replace Tentacruel with Starmie. You still get the things that you need, except with more speed and a more reliable way to counter Gyarados. Foretress is actually probaly your best bet though. If you don't believe me, you don't have to.

 

[slayer124]

Actually, I'm not bragging, and I'm very serious. Two Revenge Killers aren't absolutely needed. My point? You don't use some kind of Pokemon because it's good, you use it because it's useful for your team. Hail teams really hate Thunder Wavers and thus you can do with another RestTalker. Also, I've used a Machamp lead before, it dies before you can kill Blissey with it. Or you can run Specs Heatran. Specs Heatran is great. A wish passer in here could be useful. Celebi actually works well on Hail teams. It takes Fighting moves like a pro and can set up Stealth Rock, something every team needs. If you don't have Stealth Rock, it's not as easy as win as before. Not even nearly as easy. I suggest you replace Tentacruel with Starmie. You still get the things that you need, except with more speed and a more reliable way to counter Gyarados. Foretress is actually probaly your best bet though. If you don't believe me, you don't have to.

Why are you so paranoid and arrogant?? I didn't say anything that i don't believe you. I said i know RestTalk Heatran is good but i preferred Choice Scarf Heatran and not all 'good' player use only RestTalk version of Heatran. I know Specs Heatran is great since it heavily damages everything. Don't insult me like i am totally noob and you are that much professional. That's why i am saying you are arrogant. I am thinking about Celebi, Forretress, and Starmie too but

I don't understand what are you saying here:
You don't use some kind of Pokemon because it's good, you use it because it's useful for your team.

I know Wish Passer is good on my team but i can't think of any one to the team. Didn't you notice that i said Gyarados is problem??? I will substitute the Choice Scarf Heatran to Choice Spec Heatran. Can you say something in more polite or properly?? I never never try to insult you and attacks you but why are you so angry. One thing i said to you is just explain the reason of using RestTalk Heatran. I didn't use Machamp to kill Blissey but as Sleep Talker and solid Tyranitar counter. Yes i am pretty noob compares to other guy on smogon and i don't know that much of Hail Team. I know Celebi is good counter for Fighter except Heracross. Do you think i don't acknowledge that?? Stealth rock isn't something that every team needed. It is just your opinion and that is only thing i against you. Suppose someone's team don't have stealth rock. Can you say that person is retarded??? I was thought about Starmie but reason why i use Tentacruel is it can be Special Wall, Rapid Spinner, and MixApe counter simultaneously. Didn't you see my reply to spiritman?? You can't just said substitute Tentacruel to Starmie since if i do that i lose special wall.

 

[Wayff]

Heh, I don't mean to brag, but I'm actually one of the more solid players on Smogon. (Yeah, I've beaten players like Earthworm and Bologo before...) Also, what I mean't is that a Pokemon needs to fit on a team. Of course I know Gyarados is a threat, and I'm NOT trying to insult that. I don't think I'm arrogant at all. By the way, why don't you make your team even MORE offensive? Try replacing Tentacruel with Starmie, and then try Foretress on this team. Why? You've covered most of the threats. Starmie and Mamoswine counter most of the threats Zapdos and Tentacruel are trying to counter anyways. By the way, if Wish is such a problem, why not try Vaporeon? That thing counters Tyranitar to an extent and counters Gyarados really well. It also helps with most of your threats.

Here's what I'd do. First, replace Tentacruel with Foretress. Then, try replacing Heatran with Vaporeon. This way, you've got all your threats covered pretty well. Also, I never said you were a noob.

 

[slayer124]

Heh, I don't mean to brag, but I'm actually one of the more solid players on Smogon. (Yeah, I've beaten players like Earthworm and Bologo before...) Also, what I mean't is that a Pokemon needs to fit on a team. Of course I know Gyarados is a threat, and I'm NOT trying to insult that. I don't think I'm arrogant at all. By the way, why don't you make your team even MORE offensive? Try replacing Tentacruel with Starmie, and then try Foretress on this team. Why? You've covered most of the threats. Starmie and Mamoswine counter most of the threats Zapdos and Tentacruel are trying to counter anyways. By the way, if Wish is such a problem, why not try Vaporeon? That thing counters Tyranitar to an extent and counters Gyarados really well. It also helps with most of your threats.

Here's what I'd do. First, replace Tentacruel with Foretress. Then, try replacing Heatran with Vaporeon. This way, you've got all your threats covered pretty well. Also, I never said you were a noob.

Ok. Sorry for that but you didn't explain that much on your reply to my replies. You have to admit that though. However what is reason of saying this??

but I'm actually one of the more solid players on Smogon. (Yeah, I've beaten players like Earthworm and Bologo before...)

You seem to like you are trying to say you are very good player than compare to other people. I will admit that but is this sentence is neccessary and this is also sort of bragging. I never saw very solid player like Taylor, KinglerDude,Obi, and Jibaku trying to say they are solid player on RMT. You don't need this setence at all because i never say you aren't solid player and i never oppose your idea. However, you are still sort of arrogant though. And i feel really bad if someone compare me to he/she. You said you are more solid players on smogon but i saw the very solid players who are in level of KinglerDude or Jibaku using Choice Scarf or Choice Spec Heatran. I agree with you of making team more offensive though. I never saw any smogoner post something on RMT that he/she is solid player or any good player use RestTalk Heatran. Isn't it?? I saw plenty of RMT and never saw something like that. Sorry but I am sick of talking to you now. I didn't say you aren't acknowledge Gyarados is threat but what i am saying is that Gyarados could 6-0 on my team and big threat to me. I don't say wish passing is problem but what i am trying to say is it would be much better for the team if i can pass wish.

 

[Wayff]

Yeah, so you didn't read the part the I didn't meant to brag. I only said that to prove to you that I can give some good quality rates. Looks like you really are a noob.

Funny thing is, I know most good team raters.

 

[slayer124]

Yeah, so you didn't read the part the I didn't meant to brag. I only said that to prove to you that I can give some good quality rates. Looks like you really are a noob.

Funny thing is, I know most good team raters.

No i read it your reply well.
Heh, I don't mean to brag,
But what i am saying is you are still arrogant than you think too do and i saying this quote, but I'm actually one of the more solid players on Smogon. (Yeah, I've beaten players like Earthworm and Bologo before...)
is completely unneccesary. Didn't i say i am pretty noob?? I am fucking high school junior who takes three AP course and AP Exam+ My dorm blocks Java and all sort of thing so i am unable to get that much of experience. I think you have too much of pride and arrogance. This quote,Looks like you really are a noob, is completely unneccessary and only reveal your true identity. I don't know this RMT thread is actually RMT Thread or just cursing thread. Okay i will add you to ignore list permanently and lock this thread because i don't want to get any advice from very arrogant person. WTF. what is purpose of saying i know most of good team rater. So what?? i think you really mentally immature and arrogant no matter what grade are you in or not. Is playing game better than Noob that tempting Prince?? You are no way to be better than Jibaku, Great Sage, and other very solid player who ends up in very high tier in shoddy and they did good team rate on my previous sand stream team without antagonizing perosn. You have to know that you start fighting first.

Really can i lock this thread??

 

[Wayff]

Sorry, but you can't lock this thread. Also, yeah look at your 5000 RMT posts. More than half of them got locked, I actually think you're funny. Also, how do you know if I'm better than them or not? Just because I don't know some of the players dosen't mean that I suck. By the way, did you know that only some good player rate teams? Some good players (Jabba, RaikouLover, and VIL) completely don't rate teams? You started the fight anyways, why the hell should I listen to you? I'm laughing so hard when you're adding me to the ignore list, it's actually hilarious. I don't think I'm arrogant at all. Why? I tried to give you advice, you completely ignore me, then call me arrogant, so why should I give you advice? This is WAY TOO HILARIOUS. Maybe I'll tell KinglerDude or someone I know about this.

Sure, Great Sage and Jibaku are good, but lots of players have as much prediction skills that they do. No one said that they were "god" at this game. There are lots of good players that can predict.

 

[Kira]

Slayer I don't understand your problem... Wayff made good suggestions for your team. You kept on refusing to take them which is why Wayff had to prove he was actually a really good player...

Oh and did you really call Wayff a noob? Sorry for saying this, but he knows a lot more about Pokemon than you do.

 

[slayer124]

Slayer I don't understand your problem... Wayff made good suggestions for your team. You kept on refusing to take them which is why Wayff had to prove he was actually a really good player...

Oh and did you really call Wayff a noob? Sorry for saying this, but he knows a lot more about Pokemon than you do.

No. I never said he is noob but i said i am noob (he said i say he is noob?? I never did if he said that he is just lie to you) I just got angry because he seems to do some insult like any "good player" use RestTalk Heatran or saying some unneccessary thing like i know many of solid player which make feel like i am bad player or i am just far worse than him. Wouldn't it?? Also, he just said something like why don't you use Calm Zapdos or resttalk Heatran even if i said a reason. I know i was rude but i think he was rude too. You have to look carefully it is me i said i am noob and i never say he is noob. I didn't refuse, i just want to him to explain reason. I think he got angry because i didn't change my team. However, you can saw it from the first reply to him. I am just asking what RestTalk Heatran will do on my team and how much it will benefitting team more than Choice Scarf Heatran do. I think both Wayff and I goes too emotional while talking each other. I said sorry to him but he didn't seem to except because he said Heh, I don't mean to brag. Just simple word Heh makes me feel he is more arrogant than i was think of. I know i don't know whole lot of Pokemon. True if player who have battle just sligtly more than 20 battle can't know much about pokemon. I admit he have superior knowledge than him. But i never said he is bad player or he can't have good prediction. Suppose, someone call someone Noob or saying he/she can't understand why he doesn't to follow his opinion, i think you will be little bit frustrate about them. I really like Choice Scarf Heatran and don't like RestTalk Heatran's weakness to water, ground, fighting even though RestTalk Heatran is good. I know RestTalk Heatran is good for experiences since he have tons of resistance and good status absorber but i just preferred Choice Scarf Heatran. Many people won't change their preference if they don't have enough reason. So i am just asking what will RestTalk Heatran would do on the team. I mention very solid player like Taylor, Kinglerdude, Jibaku because they do good advice with good explanation without harming other's feeling.