Warstory - A Tale of Two Zangoose

[SF3]

My first Warstory here.

Rules: Evasion Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Sleep Clause, Species Clause

Someone random guy named Spiderman83 was looking for a UU battle. So, being quick to jump on the few people who do request UU battles, I challenged him. Like any UU game, you really don’t know what to expect, which is I guess where most of the excitement lies.

Edit: Due to people, I've decided to add this disclaimer. Yes, he was using more of a BL team, and I have two debated BLs in my team. However, due to the fact there is no official tier list, just read this as a regular warstory that is hopefully fun to read and interesting to determine who went wrong where.

My (SF3) team: Linoone, Charmeleon, Zangoose, Rotom, Politoed, Hitmonchan

His (Spiderman83) team [In order of appearance]: Zangoose, Altaria, Venusaur, Rapidash, Quagsire, Probopass

Spiderman83 sent out Zangoose (lvl 100 Zangoose ?).
SF3 sent out Linoone (lvl 100 Linoone ?).
Zangoose used Close Combat.
It's super effective!
Linoone lost 123% of its health.
SF3's Linoone fainted.
Zangoose's defence was lowered.
Zangoose's special defence was lowered.

6-5 Him

Okay, so he's got a CC Zangoose. Deadly, yes, but I'm not Fighting weak. I Belly Drum'd Linoone expecting a Swords Dance, but it turns out I was horribly, horribly wrong.

SF3 switched in Zangoose (lvl 100 Zangoose ?).
Spiderman83 switched in Altaria (lvl 100 Altaria ?).
Zangoose used Swords Dance.
Zangoose's attack was sharply raised.

Altaria, too easy, I think to myself. I'm packing a few Ice moves. I'll use this turn to set up my Zangoose with a Swords Dance. Goose has a Focus Sash - so no worries.

Spiderman83 switched in Venusaur (lvl 100 Venusaur ?).
Zangoose used Swords Dance.
Zangoose's attack was sharply raised.

Okay, so he switched. Into... Venusaur? This thing is a pest, to say the least. He's probably running a standard set, but I get cocky.

Zangoose used Swords Dance.
Zangoose's attack was sharply raised.
Venusaur used Sleep Powder.
Zangoose fell asleep!

Too cocky. All that work thrown to waste. Time for Zangoose to haul ass and live to fight another day. Let's just hope it was worth it... you know, not letting him hang out to "see if he wakes up."
SF3 switched in Hitmonchan (lvl 100 Hitmonchan ?).

Venusaur used Leech Seed.
Hitmonchan was seeded!
Hitmonchan's health was sapped by leech seed!
Hitmonchan lost 12% of its health.
Venusaur regained health!
Venusaur restored 8% of its health.

No! The dreaded Leech Seed. Come on, Hitmonchan. Ice Punch him.

Spiderman83 switched in Rapidash (lvl 100 Rapidash ?).
Hitmonchan used Ice Punch.
It's not very effective...
Rapidash lost 27% of its health.
Rapidash was frozen solid!
Hitmonchan's health was sapped by leech seed!
Hitmonchan lost 12% of its health.
Rapidash regained health!
Rapidash restored 11% of its health.

Good God, freeze hax. Hell freakin' yes. If I'm lucky, he won't thaw out before I crush him. My Hitmonchan has Iron Fist, so possibly a STAB Mach Punch will send him packing.

Hitmonchan used Mach Punch.
Rapidash lost 42% of its health.
Rapidash is frozen solid!
Hitmonchan's health was sapped by leech seed!
Hitmonchan lost 12% of its health.
Rapidash regained health!
Rapidash restored 11% of its health.

It didn't, but he's still frozen. I'm still seeded. So, as my guys often do, time to haul ass.

Spiderman83 switched in Altaria (lvl 100 Altaria ?).
SF3 switched in Politoed (lvl 100 Politoed ?).

Too easy. Goodbye Altaria.

Altaria used Dragon Claw.
Politoed lost 42% of its health.
Altaria lost 10% of its health.
Politoed used Ice Beam.
It's super effective!
Altaria lost 117% of its health.
Spiderman83's Altaria fainted.
Politoed's leftovers restored its health a little!
Politoed restored 6% of its health.

5-5 Tie

IMO, Politoed is in the top tier of UU Pokemon. This guy is a freakin' wall, and with great special attack.

Spiderman83 switched in Zangoose (lvl 100 Zangoose ?).
Zangoose used Return.
Politoed lost 55% of its health.
Politoed used Hypnosis.
Politoed's attack missed!
Politoed's leftovers restored its health a little!
Politoed restored 6% of its health.

Close Combat, Return... I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm guessing he's not packing Quick Attack. I hope not. Hypnosis missing is rather unfortunate, because now I have to get the Frog outta there. But, I do know someone who can resist these two strong moves.

SF3 switched in Rotom (lvl 100 Rotom).
Zangoose used Return.
It doesn't affect Rotom...

Spiderman83 switched in Venusaur (lvl 100 Venusaur ?).
Rotom used Thunderbolt.
It's not very effective...
Venusaur lost 26% of its health.
Venusaur is paralysed! It may be unable to move!
Venusaur's Black Sludge restored a little health!
Venusaur restored 6% of its health.

Man, I am getting lucky today with the status effects! Of course, with the beast that Venusaur is, this doesn't really seem to matter much.

SF3 switched in Charmeleon (lvl 100 Charmeleon ?).
Venusaur used Leech Seed.
Charmeleon was seeded!
Venusaur's Black Sludge restored a little health!
Venusaur restored 6% of its health.
Charmeleon's health was sapped by leech seed!
Charmeleon lost 12% of its health.
Venusaur regained health!
Venusaur restored 9% of its health.

No, no, no! My BellyMeleon was seeded. This isn't good, he won't be able to stay in long.

Spiderman83 switched in Rapidash (lvl 100 Rapidash ?).
Charmeleon used Substitute.
Charmeleon lost 25% of its health.
Charmeleon made a substitute!
Charmeleon's health was sapped by leech seed!
Charmeleon lost 12% of its health.
Rapidash regained health!
Rapidash restored 12% of its health.

Okay, my health is being drained, but I'm still behind a sub. Time to end the fire pony.

Spiderman83 switched in Quagsire (lvl 100 Quagsire ?).
Charmeleon used Dragon Claw.
Quagsire lost 13% of its health.
Quagsire's leftovers restored its health a little!
Quagsire restored 6% of its health.
Charmeleon's health was sapped by leech seed!
Charmeleon lost 12% of its health.
Quagsire regained health!
Quagsire restored 8% of its health.

What the hell? Double switch. But never mind that, my health is draining too quickly. I'm crossing my fingers and hoping for...

SF3 switched in Rotom (lvl 100 Rotom).
Rotom makes ground moves miss with Levitate!
Quagsire used Earthquake.
Quagsire's attack missed!

Got it. Now...

Spiderman83 switched in Probopass (lvl 100 Probopass ?).
Rotom used Trick.
Rotom obtained Choice Specs!
Probopass obtained Choice Specs!

?? Damn.

SF3 switched in Hitmonchan (lvl 100 Hitmonchan ?).
Probopass used Flash Cannon.
Hitmonchan lost 55% of its health.

Spiderman83 switched in Venusaur (lvl 100 Venusaur ?).
Hitmonchan used Mach Punch.
It's not very effective...
Venusaur lost 12% of its health.
Venusaur's Black Sludge restored a little health!
Venusaur restored 6% of its health.

Hitmonchan used Ice Punch.
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Venusaur lost 112% of its health.
Spiderman83's Venusaur fainted.

5-4 Me

And so, the beast has been slain. Thanks to Hitmonchan and those amazing elemental punches.

Spiderman83 switched in Zangoose (lvl 100 Zangoose ?).
Hitmonchan used Mach Punch.
It's super effective!
Zangoose lost 78% of its health.
Zangoose used Return.
Hitmonchan lost 97% of its health.
SF3's Hitmonchan fainted.

4-4 Tie

So long, buddy.

SF3 switched in Zangoose (lvl 100 Zangoose ?).
Zangoose is fast asleep!
Zangoose used Swords Dance.
Zangoose's attack was sharply raised.

Well, what the hell? Maybe I'll get lucky.

Zangoose woke up!
Zangoose used Swords Dance.
Zangoose's attack was sharply raised.
Zangoose used Close Combat.
It's super effective!
Zangoose lost 306% of its health.
Zangoose hung on using its Focus Sash!
Zangoose's defence was lowered.
Zangoose's special defence was lowered.

Ha ha! I got in a dance, and my Focus Sash saved me. Here I'm really hoping he doesn't have Quick Attack, because I want to destroy him with mine.

Spiderman83 switched in Quagsire (lvl 100 Quagsire ?).
Zangoose used Quick Attack.
Quagsire lost 28% of its health.
Quagsire's leftovers restored its health a little!
Quagsire restored 6% of its health.

Well, switch.

Quagsire used Protect.
Quagsire protected itself!
Zangoose used Flail.
Quagsire protected itself!
Quagsire's leftovers restored its health a little!
Quagsire restored 6% of its health.

Quagsire and that Protect. Such a great move, until your opponent uses it.

Spiderman83 switched in Probopass (lvl 100 Probopass ?).
Zangoose used Flail.
It's not very effective...
Probopass lost 35% of its health.

SF3 switched in Rotom (lvl 100 Rotom).
Probopass used Flash Cannon.
It's not very effective...
Rotom lost 41% of its health.

Rotom used Shadow Ball.
It's not very effective...
Probopass lost 19% of its health.
Probopass used Flash Cannon.
It's not very effective...
Rotom lost 39% of its health.

Here, I predicted a switch. I could switch poor Rotom out, but I really don't want to endanger any more of my guys. Plus, there's nothing I really need Rotom for anyways. Oh well.

Rotom used Shadow Ball.
It's not very effective...
Probopass lost 22% of its health.
Probopass's special defence was lowered.
Probopass used Flash Cannon.
It's not very effective...
Rotom lost 37% of its health.
SF3's Rotom fainted.

4-3 Him

I love the little guy, but you gotta do what you gotta do.

SF3 switched in Politoed (lvl 100 Politoed ?).
Spiderman83 switched in Quagsire (lvl 100 Quagsire ?).
Politoed used Surf.
Quagsire's Water Absorb absorbed damage!
Quagsire restored 25% of its health.
Politoed's leftovers restored its health a little!
Politoed restored 6% of its health.

Politoed used Hypnosis.
Quagsire fell asleep!
Quagsire is fast asleep!
Politoed's leftovers restored its health a little!
Politoed restored 6% of its health.

SF3 switched in Charmeleon (lvl 100 Charmeleon ?).
Quagsire woke up!
Quagsire used Yawn.
Charmeleon became drowsy!

Wow, unlucky. Waking up after only 1 turn to sleep my sweeper.

Quagsire used Protect.
Quagsire protected itself!
Charmeleon used Substitute.
Charmeleon lost 25% of its health.
Charmeleon made a substitute!
Charmeleon's Salac Berry raised its speed!
Charmeleon fell asleep!

Charmeleon is fast asleep!
Quagsire used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
The substitute took damage for Charmeleon!
Charmeleon's substitute faded!

Spiderman83 switched in Rapidash (lvl 100 Rapidash ?).
Charmeleon is fast asleep!

Charmeleon woke up!
Charmeleon used Dragon Claw.
Rapidash lost 33% of its health.
Rapidash is frozen solid!

Spiderman83 switched in Quagsire (lvl 100 Quagsire ?).
Charmeleon used Dragon Claw.
Quagsire lost 14% of its health.
Quagsire's leftovers restored its health a little!
Quagsire restored 6% of its health.

Okay, I've got Charmeleon out there with a Salac Berry. I didn't get to use his signature move, Belly Drum, this game unfortunately. But, he can still make a dent right? Too bad Dragon Claw does so little. I think he's going to go for the Waterfall so... someone with water absorb needs some life back.

SF3 switched in Politoed (lvl 100 Politoed ?).
Quagsire used Earthquake.
Politoed lost 28% of its health.
SF3's Politoed fainted.
Quagsire's leftovers restored its health a little!
Quagsire restored 6% of its health.

4-2 Him.

Ouch. Wrong. Poor Politoed.

It's down to my two guys, Zangoose and Charmeleon, to come out from under and win this thing. At least, I hope so.

SF3 switched in Zangoose (lvl 100 Zangoose ?).
Zangoose used Flail.
Quagsire lost 64% of its health.
Quagsire used Yawn.
Zangoose became drowsy!
Quagsire's leftovers restored its health a little!
Quagsire restored 6% of its health.

Not now!

SF3 switched in Charmeleon (lvl 100 Charmeleon ?).
Quagsire used Protect.
Quagsire protected itself!
Quagsire's leftovers restored its health a little!
Quagsire restored 6% of its health.

Charmeleon used Dragon Claw.
Quagsire lost 13% of its health.
Quagsire used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Charmeleon lost 113% of its health.
SF3's Charmeleon fainted.
Quagsire's leftovers restored its health a little!
Quagsire restored 6% of its health.

4-1 Him

Char... char.... my main guy, gone to a Quagsire. I can only pray now.

He's got Quagsire out, and I've got a trigger happy Zangoose setting at 1 HP. I take a huge gamble, predicting his Protect from Quick Attack, and Swords Dance up. One Swords Dance is all I need to take this home. I know Probopass will fall to a Swords Dance'd Flail.

SF3 switched in Zangoose (lvl 100 Zangoose ?).
Quagsire used Protect.
Quagsire protected itself!
Zangoose used Swords Dance.
Zangoose's attack was sharply raised.
Quagsire's leftovers restored its health a little!
Quagsire restored 6% of its health.

Bingo.

Zangoose used Flail.
Quagsire lost 127% of its health.
Spiderman83's Quagsire fainted.

3-1 Him

Spiderman83 switched in Zangoose (lvl 100 Zangoose ?).
Zangoose used Quick Attack.
Zangoose lost 73% of its health.
Spiderman83's Zangoose fainted.

2-1 Him

Spiderman83 switched in Probopass (lvl 100 Probopass ?).
Zangoose used Flail.
It's not very effective...
Probopass lost 37% of its health.
Spiderman83's Probopass fainted.

1-1 Tie

All that's left was his Frozen, half-dead Rapidash.

He doesn't give me the satisfaction, though.

Spiderman83: gg
SF3: gg
Spiderman83 has left the room.

Thanks for taking the time to read my Warstory.

Authorized by Phuqouph.

 

[Steven718]

I must have no concept of what is considered UU nowadays.

 

[Thorns]

Me too. Looks like your team is a bunch of UU's and bad BL's. And, I must ask, why Charmeleon? There are plenty of Fire types out there in UU. Belly Drum is good, but Charmeleon is really frail.

 

[Gmax]

Lets go over the list of 'UU' pokes being used here.

ZANGOOSE!?!? HITMONCHAN?!!??!? VENUSAUR?!?!?!? RAPIDASH?!?!?!?!

Zangoose:Swords Dance+Return+Close Combat+115 Attack+90 Speed

Hitmonchan:Iron Fist+Boltbeam Punches+Mach Punch+105 Attack

Venusaur: I'm not even going to start on Saur.

Rapidash: 100 Attack+105 Speed+Hypnosis+Flare Blitz


These are all BL imo. Dont know about Probo though.

 

[Pneuma]

Venusaur and Zangoose considered UU? Hahahahaha oh wow.

 

[Thunderhorse]

You know, I was actually about to reply to this over in SF3's RMT:

OK, just for the record, Saur was BL in Advance, and the addition of Grass Knot and Energy Ball just made it better. Sludge Bomb going special was a nice boost too. Now it can use Sleep+Seed+Bomb+Knot/Ball.

It can take a couple of hits when needed and is NOT going to be UU.

...with "who in the blue hell thinks Venusaur is UU?" (for the record, I was suggesting Venusaur as a starter because the team was "BL/UU" as the term is coined on Shoddy before the team went full UU, and not once did I mention that Venusaur was UU).

Well, I guess now I know...

Strange decisions for UU Pokes aside, it wasn't bad. Getting overconfident against Venusaur probably wasn't your finest hour though. Then again, Protecting against a last Pokemon with only 1 HP probably wasn't this guy's finest moment also.

No wonder I actually managed to beat him.

Lets go over the list of 'UU' pokes being used here.

ZANGOOSE!?!? HITMONCHAN?!!??!? VENUSAUR?!?!?!? RAPIDASH?!?!?!?!

Zangoose:Swords Dance+Return+Close Combat+115 Attack+90 Speed

Hitmonchan:Iron Fist+Boltbeam Punches+Mach Punch+105 Attack

Venusaur: I'm not even going to start on Saur.

Rapidash: 100 Attack+105 Speed+Hypnosis+Flare Blitz

Actually, all of them (bar Venusaur of course) seem to be fair game according to http://shoddybattle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=73 (yes, I know: this isn't the be-all-end-all list, but it's all the UU Poke players have atm =/).

 

[Gmax]

Yeah well, that list isn't the be all end all list as you said. A list having Zangoose, Azumarill and Froslass as UU is a joke. A really bad one.

And UU Hariyama?! Are you joking? Azumarill is even worse! AA evidently hasn't seen CB Aqua Jet OHKO Zam.....

 

[ODDish]

(yes, I know: this isn't the be-all-end-all list, but it's all the UU Poke players have atm =/).

Hmmm not really. A lot of sites have "UU tier" lists, admitedly most of them are truly hideous - pokebeach's is the biggest joke so far - but they are there. At present Marriland's list is every bit as useable as AA's, however as previously stated neither are perfect, but both are at least starts.

As for the warstory itself it is fairly entertaining, hopefully both players have learned something valuable from the battle.

 

[The_Rider]

pretty interesting warstory GJ! A couple of pokemon there are BL or atleast I first thought were BL oh well doesn't really make a difference anyways. thanks for posting this

 

[Forsety]

The current state of the UU game is a joke with people randomly calling things BL/UU as they see fit in their personal opinion which is a problem. Just so they can feel special being different, so its not surprising alot of those UU tier lists suck. Even Marriland's one probably the only even half decent one out there raises numerous eyebrows.

Although not impressed with the actual battle at all I will say I agree Politoed is a beast its essentually Milotic lite but with a few extra tricks up its sleeve.

 

[Gmax]

You know, I was actually about to reply to this over in SF3's RMT:



...with "who in the blue hell thinks Venusaur is UU?" (for the record, I was suggesting Venusaur as a starter because the team was "BL/UU" as the term is coined on Shoddy before the team went full UU, and not once did I mention that Venusaur was UU).

Well, I guess now I know...

Strange decisions for UU Pokes aside, it wasn't bad. Getting overconfident against Venusaur probably wasn't your finest hour though. Then again, Protecting against a last Pokemon with only 1 HP probably wasn't this guy's final moment also.

No wonder I actually managed to beat him.



Actually, all of them (bar Venusaur of course) seem to be fair game according to http://shoddybattle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=73 (yes, I know: this isn't the be-all-end-all list, but it's all the UU Poke players have atm =/).

Ah, my bad. I thought that was a purely UU team in the RMT. I didn't know he had initially said UUBL. I'm sorry.

 

[ODDish]

The current state of the UU game is a joke with people randomly calling things BL/UU as they see fit in their personal opinion which is a problem. Just so they can feel special being different, so its not surprising alot of those UU tier lists suck. Even Marriland's one probably the only even half decent one out there raises numerous eyebrows.

I have to say that not everyone that plays UU does so so they can "feel special being different", I personally play UU because I find the OU metagame incredibly montonous and overcentralised around a small number of specific pokemon. Whilst I'm sure that my opinion of what constitutes UU is subjective, I do attempt to build teams with pokemon like Banette, Torkoal, Politoed etc., who I feel are genuinely UU.

I do however agree that the state of UU is a joke, the tendency to lump together anything that isn't OU as UU/BL is incredibly dangerous, as the BL faux tier was created for a reason. Unfortunately many battlers on Shoddy either do not know this, or do not care, and can't understand why, when I ask for UU battle, and find myself confronted with Choice Scarf Typhlosion or Mismagius I start bitching.

Still until there is some sort of agreement as to some sort of list, I'll just have to put up with things, as I can't see myself ever growing to like OU.

 

[Gmax]

Yeah, at least in NB if it was below 56-57% you could tell it was UU. Now, when you ask for a UU match you run into people like this guy with his Zangoose and Venusaur. Though that's just the tip of the iceberg. I've faced Moltres in a 'UU' team.

 

[Bourbon]

I faced Milotic, Suicine and Regice in a "UU" team. We need to get a bunch of people together to test out ther pkmn so we can make an actual UU tier, one thats LEGIT.

 

[SF3]

Woah, woah. This was meant to be an entertaining warstory. I didn't expect this to become a thread to debate BL/UU tiers.

Few things:
1. From my understanding there is no UU metagame, only a vague idea of what constitutes UU. For example, even though I don't use him because I think he's way too overpowered, I've seen a ton of Feraligatr in UU.
2. Charmeleon is my favorite pokemon. Plus, you can't use Charizard in UU.
3. He requested a UU battle, not me. I challenged based on his request. I had no idea what he was packing.
4. Isn't BL more of a faux tier anyways? Containing guys who could fit in either UU or OU, but no one is sure which is which? Yea.
5. I consider non-Close Combat Zangoose to be UU. He's too easily walled by Rock/Steel types.
6. Hitmonchan's UU viability is totally up in the air. But I really need him since there's no official list and I face all kinds of crazy shit.
7. I'd love a UU tier. But we don't have one yet.
8. (last number I promise) I agree with Shiny Oddish (who really has helped me a ton), I don't play UU to be "different". I don't like the OU Pokemon. I think they look dumb, and the metagame is way too overcentralized. I want to use my favorites (like Charmeleon and Politoed). But unlike him, I don't complain to my opponents if they come out with Typhlosion or Mismagius. There's nothing you can really do until some kind of official list is made. Might as well have fun while losing.

So anyways, did anyone find this to be a good read?

 

[freshkicks]

I don't really care what anyone I loved it

love

<3 drunk

 

[ace15]

Hi, yeah I liked reading it.Though I consider zangoose to be BL(I stopped using it once I noticed it in a tier list).Also you got an amazing comeback in the end and it was a fair game since he was using alot more BL then you.BL is pokemon too weak for OU but too strong for UU(like zangoose).

 

[SF3]

Well, thanks. Glad to know someone enjoyed it :-)

Yea, the Venusaur thing was a huge mistake, but mistakes happen. And his mistake to Protect at the end instead of EQ cost him the match. It was a really GG though.

 

[freshkicks]

I consider Zangoose to e be like nothing like a goose really more like a ninja squirrel

 

[ODDish]

Woah, woah. This was meant to be an entertaining warstory. I didn't expect this to become a thread to debate BL/UU tiers

I did say it was fairly entertaining ...

4. Isn't BL more of a faux tier anyways? Containing guys who could fit in either UU or OU, but no one is sure which is which? Yea.

Yes the BL tier is a faux tier, but it is the refuge for pokemon not used frequently enough for OU but deemed too powerful for use UU.

But unlike him, I don't complain to my opponents if they come out with Typhlosion or Mismagius.

The reason I complain is simple, I ask for UU battle for the express purpose of testing UU teams for the gym challenge. I cannot get an accurate picture of how teams/individual pokemon perform when faced with a stream of BL pokemon, and in my experience most "UU/BL" consist of five BLs and a token UU.

 

[Steven718]

So pokemon minus move X = lower tier?

And yeah the warstory itself wasn't bad.

 

[SF3]

No the BL tier became the refuge for pokemon not used frequently enough for OU but deemed too powerful for use UU.

See, I've got a little problem with that. I've swept some OU teams with Linoone. Now, I'm not saying this to act like a badass, but I personally think whatever is deemed to be the upper-tier BL Pokemon can easily fit in with OU (to give it more variety, if nothing else) (and I'm not saying that so Linoone is put in OU!), and lower BL Pokemon can fit in with UU.

Of course, this is all just IMO based on my limited experience.

The reason I complain is simple, I ask for UU battle for the express purpose of testing UU teams for the gym challenge. I cannot get an accurate picture of how teams/individual pokemon perform when faced with a stream of BL pokemon, and in my experience most "UU/BL" consist of five BLs and a token UU.

Ah, gotcha. Yea, that makes alot of sense if you're preparing for Gym challenges.

Well then, sorry about that, man.

So pokemon minus move X = lower tier?

For a select few, IMO, yes. Keep in mind, I'm talking about a select few. I'm not trying to entertain the notion that Jirachi without Wish and U-Turn should be BL or UU. I see this as being specific to BL pokemon in regards to their viability in UU.

For example, like how hax moves (Double-Team, Sheer Cold, etc.) are sometimes banned.

And yeah the warstory itself wasn't bad.

Thanks.

 

[freshkicks]

Then again, Protecting against a last Pokemon with only 1 HP probably wasn't this guy's final moment also.

No wonder I actually managed to beat him.

lol. im sigging that tomoz.

 

[ODDish]

See, I've got a little problem with that. I've swept some OU teams with Linoone. Now, I'm not saying this to act like a badass, but I personally think whatever is deemed to be the upper-tier BL Pokemon can easily fit in with OU (to give it more variety, if nothing else) (and I'm not saying that so Linoone is put in OU!), and lower BL Pokemon can fit in with UU.

You swept an OU team with a powered up Linoone, try it without the Belly Drum/Salac Berry whatever and see how much success you have ; )

 

[SF3]

You swept an OU team with a powered up Linoone, try it without the Belly Drum/Salac Berry whatever and see how much success you have ; )

Hey hey, what's so wrong with powering him up? :-)

Belly Drum + STAB Extremespeed

"You have a Linoone weakness."