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Welcome to the Underground Daycare Center. Featuring Kingmitus vs Unoriginal Name
- Thread starter akela
- Start date
Ah, loopholes.
Blizzard + Blizzard ~ Cooldown (Blizzard) ~ Explosion + Explosion
Blizzard + Blizzard ~ Cooldown (Blizzard) ~ Explosion + Explosion
Bench:
Growlithe
-30
36
Status: KO
Eevee
-8
38
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Embirch
-10
48
Status: KO
Hippopotas
44
29
Status: 1 KOC
Zorua
-14
74
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Drilbur
37
-1
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Active:
Monferno
88
50
Status: 1 KOC
Vanillish
90
100
Active:
Monferno
94
79
Vanillish
90
100
Bench:
Growlithe
-30
36
Status: KO
Eevee
-8
38
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Embirch
-10
48
Status: KO
Hippopotas
44
29
Status: 1 KOC
Zorua
-14
74
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Drilbur
37
-1
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Active:
Monferno
58
32
Status: 2 KOC
Vanillish
0
-11
Status: KO
Massive Endless Sandstorm
Stealth Rock on Unoriginal Name's field
Orders:
Unoriginal Name sends out and orders
Kingmitus orders
Ref
Growlithe
-30
36
Status: KO
Eevee
-8
38
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Embirch
-10
48
Status: KO
Hippopotas
44
29
Status: 1 KOC
Zorua
-14
74
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Drilbur
37
-1
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Active:
Monferno
88
50
Status: 1 KOC
Vanillish
90
100
Active:
Monferno
94
79
Vanillish
90
100
Stealth Rock Damage to Vanillish
Damage: 12 + 3 = 15
Action 1
Monferno's Fire Punch
Crit Check (625): 7198 (NO)
Effect Chance (1000): 854 (BURN)
Damage: (8 + 5 + 4.5 - (4 + 4.5)) * 1.5 + 3 = 16.5
EN Check: 6 - 1 = 5
Vanillish's Blizzard combo
Accuracy Check (4900): 3633 (HIT)
Crit Check (625): 105 (CRIT)
Effect Chance (2000): 8428 (NO)
Damage: (12 * 2.25 + 3 + 3 + 6 - 3) * 0.67 = 24.12
EN Check: (8 + 8 + 4) * 1.75 - 1 = 34
-2 HP Monferno
-2 HP Vanillish
-2 HP Vanillish
Action 2
Monferno's Double Kick
Crit Check1 (625): 7809 (NO)
Crit Check2 (625): 9786 (NO)
Damage: (3 * 2 + 5 + 4.5 - (4 + 4.5)) * 1.5 + 3 = 13.5
EN Check: 4 - 1 = 3
Vanillish cools down
-2 HP Monferno
-2 HP Vanillish
Action 2
Monferno dug into the ground
EN Check: 10
Monferno's Dig
Crit Check (625): 189 (CRIT)
Damage: (8 + 4.5 - (4 + 4.5)) * 1.5 = 6
Vanillish exploded, completely missing Monferno
EN Check: (20 + 20 + 4) * 1.75 = 77
-2 HP Monferno
Damage: 12 + 3 = 15
Action 1
Monferno's Fire Punch
Crit Check (625): 7198 (NO)
Effect Chance (1000): 854 (BURN)
Damage: (8 + 5 + 4.5 - (4 + 4.5)) * 1.5 + 3 = 16.5
EN Check: 6 - 1 = 5
Vanillish's Blizzard combo
Accuracy Check (4900): 3633 (HIT)
Crit Check (625): 105 (CRIT)
Effect Chance (2000): 8428 (NO)
Damage: (12 * 2.25 + 3 + 3 + 6 - 3) * 0.67 = 24.12
EN Check: (8 + 8 + 4) * 1.75 - 1 = 34
-2 HP Monferno
-2 HP Vanillish
-2 HP Vanillish
Action 2
Monferno's Double Kick
Crit Check1 (625): 7809 (NO)
Crit Check2 (625): 9786 (NO)
Damage: (3 * 2 + 5 + 4.5 - (4 + 4.5)) * 1.5 + 3 = 13.5
EN Check: 4 - 1 = 3
Vanillish cools down
-2 HP Monferno
-2 HP Vanillish
Action 2
Monferno dug into the ground
EN Check: 10
Monferno's Dig
Crit Check (625): 189 (CRIT)
Damage: (8 + 4.5 - (4 + 4.5)) * 1.5 = 6
Vanillish exploded, completely missing Monferno
EN Check: (20 + 20 + 4) * 1.75 = 77
-2 HP Monferno
Bench:
Growlithe
-30
36
Status: KO
Eevee
-8
38
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Embirch
-10
48
Status: KO
Hippopotas
44
29
Status: 1 KOC
Zorua
-14
74
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Drilbur
37
-1
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Active:
Monferno
88 - (24.12 + 2 + 2 + 2) = 57.88
50 - (5 + 3 + 10) = 32
Status: 2 KOC
Vanillish
90 - (16.5 + 13.5 + 6 + 54) = 0
100 - (34 + 77) = -11
Status: KO
Growlithe
-30
36
Status: KO
Eevee
-8
38
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Embirch
-10
48
Status: KO
Hippopotas
44
29
Status: 1 KOC
Zorua
-14
74
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Drilbur
37
-1
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Active:
Monferno
88 - (24.12 + 2 + 2 + 2) = 57.88
50 - (5 + 3 + 10) = 32
Status: 2 KOC
Vanillish
90 - (16.5 + 13.5 + 6 + 54) = 0
100 - (34 + 77) = -11
Status: KO
Bench:
Growlithe
-30
36
Status: KO
Eevee
-8
38
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Embirch
-10
48
Status: KO
Hippopotas
44
29
Status: 1 KOC
Zorua
-14
74
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Drilbur
37
-1
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Active:
Monferno
58
32
Status: 2 KOC
Vanillish
0
-11
Status: KO
Massive Endless Sandstorm
Stealth Rock on Unoriginal Name's field
Orders:
Unoriginal Name sends out and orders
Kingmitus orders
Ref
Dang, a miss. Kamikaze doesn't always pay off, I suppose.
Hippopotas, of course.
Chill ~ Earthquake ~ Yawn
ONLY ONCE: IF Fake Out, THEN Curse (AKA Flinch) that action and PUSH BACK.
IF Taunt, AND you have more than 7 Energy, THEN Protect the first instance and Earthquake every other instance.
Hippopotas, of course.
Chill ~ Earthquake ~ Yawn
ONLY ONCE: IF Fake Out, THEN Curse (AKA Flinch) that action and PUSH BACK.
IF Taunt, AND you have more than 7 Energy, THEN Protect the first instance and Earthquake every other instance.
Bench:
Growlithe
-30
36
Status: KO
Eevee
-8
38
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Embirch
-10
48
Status: KO
Vanillish
0
-11
Status: KO
Zorua
-14
74
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Drilbur
37
-1
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Active:
Monferno
58
32
Status: 2 KOC
Hippopotas
44
29
Status: 1 KOC
Bench:
Growlithe
-30
36
Status: KO
Eevee
-8
38
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Embirch
-10
48
Status: KO
Vanillish
0
-11
Status: KO
Zorua
-14
74
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Drilbur
37
-1
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Active:
Monferno
24
14
Status: 2 KOC
Hippopotas
5
28
Status: 1 KOC
Massive Endless Sandstorm
Stealth Rock on Unoriginal Name's field
Orders:
Kingmitus orders
Unoriginal Name orders
Ref
Growlithe
-30
36
Status: KO
Eevee
-8
38
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Embirch
-10
48
Status: KO
Vanillish
0
-11
Status: KO
Zorua
-14
74
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Drilbur
37
-1
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Active:
Monferno
58
32
Status: 2 KOC
Hippopotas
44
29
Status: 1 KOC
Stealth Rock Damage to Hippopotas
Damage: 12 - 3 = 9
Action 1
Monferno's Fire Punch
Crit Check (625): 9188 (NO)
Effect Chance (1000): 1161 (NO)
Damage: (8 + 5 + 4.5 - 4.5) + 3 = 16
EN Check: 6 - 1 = 5
Hippopotas chills
-2 HP Monferno
Action 2
Monferno's Double Kick
Crit Check 1 (625): 832 (NO)
Crit Check 2 (625): 2459 (NO)
Damage: (3 * 2 + 5 + 4.5 - 4.5) + 3 = 14
EN Check: 4 - 1 = 3
Hippopotas' Earthquake
Crit Check (625): 1816 (NO)
Damage: (10 + 7 + 4.5 - 3) * 1.5 = 27.75
EN Check: 7 - 1 = 6
-2 HP Monferno
Action 3
Monferno's Taunt
EN Check: 10
Hippopotas' Protect
EN Check: 7
-2 HP Monferno
Damage: 12 - 3 = 9
Action 1
Monferno's Fire Punch
Crit Check (625): 9188 (NO)
Effect Chance (1000): 1161 (NO)
Damage: (8 + 5 + 4.5 - 4.5) + 3 = 16
EN Check: 6 - 1 = 5
Hippopotas chills
-2 HP Monferno
Action 2
Monferno's Double Kick
Crit Check 1 (625): 832 (NO)
Crit Check 2 (625): 2459 (NO)
Damage: (3 * 2 + 5 + 4.5 - 4.5) + 3 = 14
EN Check: 4 - 1 = 3
Hippopotas' Earthquake
Crit Check (625): 1816 (NO)
Damage: (10 + 7 + 4.5 - 3) * 1.5 = 27.75
EN Check: 7 - 1 = 6
-2 HP Monferno
Action 3
Monferno's Taunt
EN Check: 10
Hippopotas' Protect
EN Check: 7
-2 HP Monferno
Bench:
Growlithe
-30
36
Status: KO
Eevee
-8
38
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Embirch
-10
48
Status: KO
Vanillish
0
-11
Status: KO
Zorua
-14
74
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Drilbur
37
-1
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Active:
Monferno
58 - (2 + 27.75 + 2 + 2) = 24.25
32 - (5 + 3 + 10) = 14
Status: 2 KOC
Hippopotas
44 - (9 + 16 + 14) = 5
29 + 12 - (6 + 7) = 28
Status: 1 KOC
Growlithe
-30
36
Status: KO
Eevee
-8
38
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Embirch
-10
48
Status: KO
Vanillish
0
-11
Status: KO
Zorua
-14
74
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Drilbur
37
-1
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Active:
Monferno
58 - (2 + 27.75 + 2 + 2) = 24.25
32 - (5 + 3 + 10) = 14
Status: 2 KOC
Hippopotas
44 - (9 + 16 + 14) = 5
29 + 12 - (6 + 7) = 28
Status: 1 KOC
Bench:
Growlithe
-30
36
Status: KO
Eevee
-8
38
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Embirch
-10
48
Status: KO
Vanillish
0
-11
Status: KO
Zorua
-14
74
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Drilbur
37
-1
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Active:
Monferno
24
14
Status: 2 KOC
Hippopotas
5
28
Status: 1 KOC
Massive Endless Sandstorm
Stealth Rock on Unoriginal Name's field
Orders:
Kingmitus orders
Unoriginal Name orders
Ref
kingmitus said:
Slack Off ~ Earthquake ~ Earthquake
Wait
No
Explosion combo is -2
Um akela
You darn goofed
:<
No
Explosion combo is -2
Um akela
You darn goofed
:<
Bench:
Growlithe
-30
36
Status: KO
Eevee
-8
38
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Embirch
-10
48
Status: KO
Vanillish
0
-11
Status: KO
Zorua
-14
74
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Drilbur
37
-1
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Active:
Monferno
24
14
Status: 2 KOC
Hippopotas
5
28
Status: 1 KOC
Bench:
Growlithe
-30
36
Status: KO
Eevee
-8
38
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Embirch
-10
48
Status: KO
Vanillish
0
-11
Status: KO
Zorua
-14
74
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Drilbur
37
-1
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Active:
Monferno
24
11
Status: 3 KOC
Hippopotas
-9
28
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Kingmitus wins!
Payout:
Kingmitus: 3 CC
-Monferno: 1 EC/2 MC/1 DC + 3 KOC
-Embirch: 1 EC/2 MC/1 DC
-Eevee: 1 EC/2 MC/1 DC + 1 KOC
-Growlithe: 1 EC/2 MC/1 DC
Unoriginal Name: 3 CC
-Drilbur: 1 EC/2 MC/1 DC + 1 KOC
-Vanillish: 1 EC/2 MC/1 DC
-Zorua: 1 EC/2 MC/1 DC + 1 KOC
-Hippopotas: 1 EC/3 MC/1 DC + 1 KOC
akela: 9 + 7/1 = 16 UC
Growlithe
-30
36
Status: KO
Eevee
-8
38
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Embirch
-10
48
Status: KO
Vanillish
0
-11
Status: KO
Zorua
-14
74
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Drilbur
37
-1
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Active:
Monferno
24
14
Status: 2 KOC
Hippopotas
5
28
Status: 1 KOC
Action 1
Monferno's Double Kick
Crit Check 1 (625): 9280 (NO)
Crit Check 2 (625): 1524 (NO)
Damage: (3 * 2 + 5 + 4.5 - 4.5) + 3 = 14
EN Check: 4 - 1 = 3
Monferno's Double Kick
Crit Check 1 (625): 9280 (NO)
Crit Check 2 (625): 1524 (NO)
Damage: (3 * 2 + 5 + 4.5 - 4.5) + 3 = 14
EN Check: 4 - 1 = 3
Bench:
Growlithe
-30
36
Status: KO
Eevee
-8
38
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Embirch
-10
48
Status: KO
Vanillish
0
-11
Status: KO
Zorua
-14
74
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Drilbur
37
-1
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Active:
Monferno
24
14 - 3 = 11
Status: 3 KOC
Hippopotas
5 - 14 = -9
28
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Growlithe
-30
36
Status: KO
Eevee
-8
38
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Embirch
-10
48
Status: KO
Vanillish
0
-11
Status: KO
Zorua
-14
74
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Drilbur
37
-1
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Active:
Monferno
24
14 - 3 = 11
Status: 3 KOC
Hippopotas
5 - 14 = -9
28
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Bench:
Growlithe
-30
36
Status: KO
Eevee
-8
38
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Embirch
-10
48
Status: KO
Vanillish
0
-11
Status: KO
Zorua
-14
74
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Drilbur
37
-1
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Active:
Monferno
24
11
Status: 3 KOC
Hippopotas
-9
28
Status: 1 KOC
KO
Kingmitus wins!
Payout:
Kingmitus: 3 CC
-Monferno: 1 EC/2 MC/1 DC + 3 KOC
-Embirch: 1 EC/2 MC/1 DC
-Eevee: 1 EC/2 MC/1 DC + 1 KOC
-Growlithe: 1 EC/2 MC/1 DC
Unoriginal Name: 3 CC
-Drilbur: 1 EC/2 MC/1 DC + 1 KOC
-Vanillish: 1 EC/2 MC/1 DC
-Zorua: 1 EC/2 MC/1 DC + 1 KOC
-Hippopotas: 1 EC/3 MC/1 DC + 1 KOC
akela: 9 + 7/1 = 16 UC
Actually,
Onion_Bubs: To calculate what priority a combo has, add the priorities of the two moves and then, if neither move has a priority greater than 0, subtract 2. Highest possible priority is +6 and lowest is -7.
So it does have -2 prio and i win.
BUT I still don't win
because I don't have enough Energy for Explosion combo so it never executes.
so dang.
Onion_Bubs: To calculate what priority a combo has, add the priorities of the two moves and then, if neither move has a priority greater than 0, subtract 2. Highest possible priority is +6 and lowest is -7.
So it does have -2 prio and i win.
BUT I still don't win
because I don't have enough Energy for Explosion combo so it never executes.
so dang.
No, you still win and get the KOC.
Wow, this is confusing.
Wow, this is confusing.