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NOC What A Bastard (GAME OVER)

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champ's claims for targets on day 1 and 2 wer acidphoenix and moodycloud which do make a lot of sense from a town perspective but are also super easy to fake as the by far most suspicious person d1 and a very suspicious vt d2
 
Texas Cloverleaf said:
what if it is champ and former as scum team? champs original claim was roleblocker but all three of hawkie, toni, and dbw had rolestopper in their PM. given former's position subbing in for metal sonic and being in a pretty inherently scummy position i could see him playing for the gambit of claiming same role as champ to pseudo-clear one when the other dies
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former claiming the same role would also serve to make the roleblocker claim less egregious as a fake claim if he pushes the agenda that the host likes role pairs and duality, which you may recall is exactly what he did when he came in
 
Texas Cloverleaf said:
I'm rereading the thread btw

And goddamn all my theories make way more sense with Jordan as town but he's done literally nothing towny ugh
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follow up on this the singular time jordan has ever claimed town was in his original claims post, every other time he tried to defend his faction it was always "but why can't this be town" never "but i'm actually town"
 
i think i'm confident in saying the last scum (assuming my theories are correct) is in champ/fenrir/viper

i want to think viper's commuter role makes way more sense for town and fenrirs ascetic makes way more sense for scum

but i have personally been an odd night scum commuter on MS

so i cant clear them off that like i have been
 
Texas Cloverleaf said:
follow up on this the singular time jordan has ever claimed town was in his original claims post, every other time he tried to defend his faction it was always "but why can't this be town" never "but i'm actually town"
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Texas Cloverleaf said:
The only logical conclusion i'm coming to is that you're a 3rd party. Is that true? I personally want to target the mafia team right now.
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XnadrojX said:
I mean think what you want (btw I'm not), but why am I 3P and not town?

So are Saulus and Judas 3P to you?

and lynch Haruno if you want to get the mafia team.
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Texas Cloverleaf said:
That's a really really bad answer
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This was what confirmed jordan as 3p to me btw
 
Is the answer bad tonewise or like in terms of content because nowhere do I see you actually detailing why I'm 3P apart from calling it a bad answer and just consistently reinforcing the idea in your posts.

Also if I am 3P indeed, then I've pretty shown that I don't have any additional kills given the claims of the night actions which makes me not a SK.

I don't see what you mean by "I've down nothing towny", your main case on me is for the "bad answer", which strikes you as scummy for some reason, but you haven't exactly given me credit where it's due? Like, I can get it if you say a scummy action singlehandedly outweighs everything I've done but when you go out and say I've "done literally nothing towny" then it kind of undermines my actions.

I don't think it's fair for you to be scumreading me for my style of defending, in my opinion if you already scumread me for whatever, then me saying I'm town shouldn't affect your reads any more than pointing out the flaws in your case will. And as the one making the case, you should be the one covering exactly why whatever you're casing me on rather than waiting for me to point out why something can't be town and leaving it at that since you can do that to literally every post and it's a 50/50 until more elaboration is given.

Hope this clears things up
 
Seeing as at no point in this game have you tried to convince anyone that you're town and have only ever protested when labeled as otherwise I think I'm good on my case
 
Texas Cloverleaf said:
former hopes roleblock claims

n1 shubaka (suspicious ascetic)
n2 flyhn (vt)
n3 post mass claim - its viper (commuter)

hmmmmmmm
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If fh targeted shub or now fenrir n1 and he is oddnight asctetic wouldnt fh get that his role failed? Both are scummy but we can get something out of this after one of em flips

Imo we ask fh if his n1 action worked
 
Lol maybe they got real paranoid or "read the situation" or whatever but like i said you don't expect more protection after 3 protective roles flip that's just unrealistic.

Maybe there is no mafia and it's just been an SK and an arsonist this whole time
 
Funny how not a single person has opposed either you dying or my assertions of you as third party

Whatever, doesn't matter. You want to do something useful before your death start scumhunting rather than just bleating about "why am i not town!11!!1!"
 
I think trying to get a reasonable post out of you before I die is useful. If you want to to start following your suggestions you could start by actually answering what I ask you in the earlier post I made. If you're so averse to answering questions directed at the holes in your case then don't push the case to begin with.

I don't think Fenrir is scum as much as he's tunnel-visioned, leaning more towards getting Former. Still feeling like lynching Blazade here.

Blazade if it's a solo SK then there's been consistently 1 kill the whole time and would make the whole setup pretty unbalanced if there's no other scum faction apart from weird cult with limited recruitment.
 
Texas Cloverleaf iirc You only revealed your DLE result today, so not like mafia would have a chance to know that. Plus with a doc dead and most roles revealed.... it's not like there's actually substantial reason to think you would have protection last night.

Also not going to lie, your arrogance in thinking your results are 100% right in a bastard game is frustrating and I wish you would start looking at DLE based on play instead, but I can't tell if this is NAI or not.
 
You don't seem to realize that if my results aren't trustworthy we've already lost

alternatively

you have motivation to make my results untrustworthy

i.e. you're scum motivated
 
The singular way my results aren't correct is if DLE is a godfather because I've explicitly checked for sanity with my check on metal sonic. DLE is not playing how I would like him to, but he is not mafia.
 
We've only lost from that if people are dumb and trust results over reads....like people usually fail to do when those roles are in games. But seriously, in a game where it's explicitly bastard and we've already had one role flip where inspects would reveal something else, it's suicide to trust inspect results as absolute.
 
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