ORAS OU What are items? (Mega Lopunny Team feat. Bisharp)

[Salad.]

What are good mega gardevoir counters? i know priority brave bird helps, but would lando do much? i know it would probably die first, but how good would a defensive set be for this team overall btw?

Spdef jirachi is a pretty good counter, considering it only takes about 20% from hyper voice and even if they were able to predict with the focus miss, that only does about 35%, whilst iron head almost ohko's it in return, it can also serve as a nice check for manectric which is on your threatlist and considering overheat does 60% Max, which you can wish off, and although you can't do much to it with iron head, considering it doesn't have any reliable recovery, you can easily wittle it down and if played correctly, you can never get KO'd by it in return. That being said it can also run rocks, but the big problem with switching out ferrothorn for it is that you can't really deal with bulky waters, although ferrothorn is shaky itself. What you could possibly do without changing any mons, is run the swords dance natural gift set for talonflame, with liechi berry, this set allows you to beat rotom-w after a swords dance on a switch out, which is actually a huge threat to your team as well, it also beats the water ground mons you mentioned in a similar way, aside from unaware quagsire, naturally, but it still takes around 70% from an unboosted natural gift. Swampert actually takes 96% Max from an unboosted NG, so a bit of damage beforehand can come in handy, unless it is under the rain.

I understand that this is not fullproof since you are forced to run the berry which of course gets used once talonflame reaches below 25%, and this also means you have less firepower in your brave bird, but it can be a nice lure. Also seeing as you are planning to use this on cartridge, you can just stick with your current spread for talonflame and going back to the jirachi thing, you can again just run Max hp, Max spdef, though this does mean you are outsped by opposing bisharps, don't recall the others, but there happens to be a lot of mons lingering around that speed tier.

Jirachi @ Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd / 4 Def
Careful Nature
- Iron Head
- Stealth Rock
- Wish
- Protect / Thunder Wave

Talonflame @ Liechi Berry
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 Def
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Natural Gift
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz

 

[SuperPiplup]

Spdef jirachi is a pretty good counter, considering it only takes about 20% from hyper voice and even if they were able to predict with the focus miss, that only does about 35%, whilst iron head almost ohko's it in return, it can also serve as a nice check for manectric which is on your threatlist and considering overheat does 60% Max, which you can wish off, and although you can't do much to it with iron head, considering it doesn't have any reliable recovery, you can easily wittle it down and if played correctly, you can never get KO'd by it in return. That being said it can also run rocks, but the big problem with switching out ferrothorn for it is that you can't really deal with bulky waters, although ferrothorn is shaky itself. What you could possibly do without changing any mons, is run the swords dance natural gift set for talonflame, with liechi berry, this set allows you to beat rotom-w after a swords dance on a switch out, which is actually a huge threat to your team as well, it also beats the water ground mons you mentioned in a similar way, aside from unaware quagsire, naturally, but it still takes around 70% from an unboosted natural gift. Swampert actually takes 96% Max from an unboosted NG, so a bit of damage beforehand can come in handy, unless it is under the rain.

I understand that this is not fullproof since you are forced to run the berry which of course gets used once talonflame reaches below 25%, and this also means you have less firepower in your brave bird, but it can be a nice lure. Also seeing as you are planning to use this on cartridge, you can just stick with your current spread for talonflame and going back to the jirachi thing, you can again just run Max hp, Max spdef, though this does mean you are outsped by opposing bisharps, don't recall the others, but there happens to be a lot of mons lingering around that speed tier.

Jirachi @ Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd / 4 Def
Careful Nature
- Iron Head
- Stealth Rock
- Wish
- Protect / Thunder Wave

Talonflame @ Liechi Berry
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 Def
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Natural Gift
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz

Jirachi could be cool to use, and I've wanted to use one for a while. Would it really be that great replacing lando though? I don't know how much damage it takes from a thunderbolt from mega magnetic or nasty plot thundurus, so if you could supply calcs it would help. After all, replacing lando would be replacing my only ground type, and therefore r e electric resist. The talonflame set seems a bit gimmicky, and I lose my precious recovery, but I guess I could always try it.

 

[Gilbertosaurus]

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