What Wall Breakers do YOU use?

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I use lots of offensive teams, so it's natrul I'd use Wall Breakers. In the 4th Generation, there are lots of Wall Breakers with only one counter, prediction. Wall Breakers allow for another Pokemon to set up and sweep, or just sweep a team by itself. However, with all the Wall Breakers in D/P, it's hard to choose a good one for your team. Therefore, I would like everyone to discuss about Wall Breakers.

What are the 5 most common wall breakers you use?

Yanmega: Yanmega is a great Wall Breaker, especially the Specs version. Many people would think it has Speed Boost, but you can catch a Bronzong switchin and hit it over half health with Air Slash, thus allowing you to set up Garchomp or something and sweep. To me, Choice Specs Yanmega is the best and most underated Wall Breaker in the 4th Generation.

Tyranitar: We all know Choice Band Tyranitar. This thing is a beast. In order to use it's Wall Breaking powers to it's max potential, give it Ice Beam. Once you get rid of Gliscor and friends, you can allow another Stat-Uper to set up and sweep a team, thus allowing victory.

Salamence: Salamence is great, especially the bulky versions. Salamence can live Ice Beams and Dragon Dance up. Cresselia comes in and Ice Beams you, you get in a few more Dragon Dances. What do you do? Sweep. After 2+ Dragon Dances, this is scary, and nothing can safely come into it. If you don't handle it correctly, you'll get sweeped by it.

Empoleon: Kamikaze. With Substitute, Petaya Berry, and Hydro Pump, you're guarnteed to do damage. You can live an EQ from Swampert, and get Petaya to activated. Afterwards, not many Pokemon can switch into this safely. This is the 2nd most underated wall breaker to me, and way more people should use Empoleon.

Garchomp: Duh. Garchomp is probaly the most broken Pokemon in the OU metagametime. If you let this get an SD up, and your counter is gone, you're dead. Never allow this to set up. If you do, you won't win. It's best counter is Cresslia, but after a Swords Dance, that's not a great counter either.

What are the 5 common wall breakers YOU use? Discuss.
 
Choice Band Gallade; When you can only beat something through prediction, you know it's good. Beats all of Medicham's/Heracross's counters and doesn't scream "I'M A CHOICE BANDER" like Hera (and to a lesser extent Medicham) does.
 
No mention of Mixape saddens me....
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he was saying what he commonly uses

hp ice fireblast mixape is a really great pokemon though. sub leech seed focus punch blizzard aboma is awesome too ;D

cbtar is a riduculous pokemon, i can't really think of any safe switches bar into ice beam/eq/se/crunch versions.

seriously i can't even think of one.

LO gengar is pretty much uncounterable too xD

kingdra is alot of fun in rain, empoleon is the only thing that can stop it really.

cb metagross is still a beast ;D
 
Not the kind of thing you'd expect to be a wall breaker, but I often use toxic spikes for that kind of stuff. Only on stallish teams of course.
 
serisouly though what has a safe switch into cb ice beam tar ?_?

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yeah that does i guess. eq does 36~43 to max hp/def x)
 
CMJirachi works pretty well during late game.

LOGengar is really good, with 3 immunities and a vast movepool.

CBHeracross 2HKOs most walls and poses a threat to many teams.

CSLucario and SDLucario are really good. Choice Specs can 2HKO Blissey and Swords Dance can OHKO walls after a Swords Dance with Stealth Rock support and such.
 
I've never really run "wall breakers"

all i do is run a slow and steady offense while balancing out my defense. eventually they will fall.
 
I've used, with great success;

~ ReSTalk Life Orb Guts Ursaring/Machamp. Can 2HKO pretty much anything, with the possible exception of Dusknoir.

~ Kingdra is INSANE.

~ SDLuke. Perhaps the one thing that can get through every single wall in the game; even Gliscor can't wall the more recent LO Hp Ice variants.

~ Calm Mind Mismagius can rip through any team that's slightly overdependant on Blissey, which most are.
 
Infernape has ridiculous type coverage, excellent speed, AND the ability to hit from special and physical ends. Unless you know exactly what its moveset is, switching anything in is a risk.
 
sam_is_cool said:
Nidoking is got to be one of the best wall breakers just look as his type coverage
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Nidoking has about the same coverage as TyraniBoah and Abomasnow... except Nidoking has a much lower attack/sp. attack.

Anyway, as far as coverage is concerned, Tyranitar is the best. However, as far as wall breakers go... I have yet to see something adequately wall Lucario. He is just too versatile, and with SD / Extreme Speed, he got practically everything covered.

Garchomp, Mixape, etc. etc. they all work very well. Less common wall breakers include Sub/seeders like Celebi and Abomasnow, Guts Ursaring...

Talking about Guts Ursaring... its Facade is stronger than CB Slaking Return and CB Garchomp/Dragonite Outrage. If you ever magically get CB+Guts Ursaring (switch into Toxic Spikes / Will o wisp)... Facade can friggen 2-hit KO 252/252 Impish Skarmory with leftovers, and OHKOs 252/252 Bold Cresselia with help of Stealth Rocks.

(Course, its probably best to round out its set with Fire Punch, Close Combat, Crunch, and Swords Dance... but not much can beat an Ursaring Facade)

Ah, the power of the multipliers... CB+Guts+STAB+Facade Bonus == 1.5 * 1.5 * 1.5 * 2 == massive >_>
 
Classic CB sets from Heracross, Tyranitar and Weavile do farely well at wall-breaking with physical pursuit. Tyranitar and Heracross, whom can switch in fairly well against Blissey can easily run and it pursuit it down allowing any strong Specs User to 2HKO it, next time it comes in. It is in my opinion that Pursuit Pokemon, alongside several others, have no real "counter". Because while you're scaring them and switching in, the pokemon your withdrawing is taking pretty serious damage.

Case in point, Heracross. While it is widely known that Gliscor is Heracross' No. 1 counter in terms of Typing, Defenses and movepool, Hera can still pursuit that Celebi or Blissey that's expecting a Megahorn/Close Combat. Furthering this example, if you're using a defensive core of Blissey, Cresselia and Gliscor, you may think that Gliscor is automatic insurance against Heracross, it'll just make sure to Pursuit Bliss/Cress every time you feebly switch out into Gliscor.

The same goes for nearly any other Pursuit user, really.
 
Train Man said:
Classic CB sets from Heracross, Tyranitar and Weavile do farely well at wall-breaking with physical pursuit. Tyranitar and Heracross, whom can switch in fairly well against Blissey can easily run and it pursuit it down allowing any strong Specs User to 2HKO it, next time it comes in. It is in my opinion that Pursuit Pokemon, alongside several others, have no real "counter". Because while you're scaring them and switching in, the pokemon your withdrawing is taking pretty serious damage.

Case in point, Heracross. While it is widely known that Gliscor is Heracross' No. 1 counter in terms of Typing, Defenses and movepool, Hera can still pursuit that Celebi or Blissey that's expecting a Megahorn/Close Combat. Furthering this example, if you're using a defensive core of Blissey, Cresselia and Gliscor, you may think that Gliscor is automatic insurance against Heracross, it'll just make sure to Pursuit Bliss/Cress every time you feebly switch out into Gliscor.

The same goes for nearly any other Pursuit user, really.
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Wish Blissey counters this if it has Protect and Celebi if it has U-Turn or Baton Pass. But it is effective most of the time.
 
CBSwine - Got Mamo weak?

CBRabtor - With BB doing 50% min., Gliscor can get lost.

Mixape - No NP or Grass Knot, still same wall-breaking madness.

MixLuke - So many sets, you just get destroyed before you know whats coming.

SD Chomp - Need I say more?
 
Currently im using Tyraniboah

I used to run a Swampert version of Boah, witch was really successful, I might even think about using it again. Also I used SpecsLucario before.
 
I really like Kingdra, and it's one of the most effective Pokemon RaikouLover has told me about, but out of my like 50 teams, I only have like 3 Rain Dance teams, so I don't use Kingdra that much. SD Lucario is great, though I usually don't find it on my teams. LO Gar and CB Gross are beasts. Like Seph told me way back, it's really hard to fit Infernape onto a team unless you make a team around it, so I don't usually find myself using Infernape.

I've used Rhyperior before, the SD variant. It can 2HKO many walls like Hippowdon with Earthquake. Houndoom is great too, with Nasty Plot and good Speed and Special Attack, it can sweep lots of teams. Choice Specs Hetran and Metal Sound Zapdos are great too. Both of them can beat Blissey. SubSD Empoleon is awesome. You get in 2 SD, and start sweeping. Raikou is another really underestimated Wall Breaker. Choice Specs Moltres with U-Turn also works wonders as a Wall Breaker. Encore Machamp in Trick Room after a Bulk Up is dangerous. SD Infernape works wonders, but I can't fit it on a team easily enough to actually use it commonly. (Note: Seph told me that)

Keep all the Wall Breakers coming!
 
Where's MixApe in the list? IMO, he's a better Wallbreaker then Yanmega. I think that is a great Wallbreaker and Nidoking, Lucario(Specs or SD, works both) or Kingdra can also be a good one.
 
SD Lucario does a good job with the SkarmBlissCombo, and so does CB Heracross. Tyraboah can be useful if you aren't prepared for it.
 
I've relied on tyraniboah to destroy their walls. Once boah gets up a sub, they WILL lose a pokemon or get damaged a lot.

Also, I've used chainchomp a bit, and its given me some suprise KOs.
 
The Shadow Trainer said:
Where's MixApe in the list? IMO, he's a better Wallbreaker then Yanmega. I think that is a great Wallbreaker and Nidoking, Lucario(Specs or SD, works both) or Kingdra can also be a good one.
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Uh, like I told you, it's the 5 most common Wall Breakers I use, not the best ones.
 
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