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Who are your role models?

Tmnt Boy said:
Woodrow Wilson thats an interesting one. I am curious why he would be one of your role models.
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Thanks for asking

Wilson was a great diplomat. He thought ahead on a lot of things - and I think most notably was that he refused the offer to take land from Germany post-WWI defeat. This was an important precedent, because at the time it was the norm for conquering countries to take land from those they conquered. The US was, at that point, the greatest conquerer and as such they were offered a good deal of land. Wilson's intelligence in denying the offer, and pushing for relaxed terms was notable and smart.

The League of Nations was also a magnificent idea, ruined only by isolationist american congress.
 
I guess when i think of Wilson i look at how he was considered very racist president. But you did remind me that even though he was racist he did do a good job when dealing with foreign affairs. So i assume as a political leader he would be a great role model but as a person he wouldn't be one of mine.
 
Vyacheslav said:
Che Guevera. Honestly?

the Beatles, Churchill, Woodrow Wilson

and my mother and father.
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Honestly. I like the way he thinks... don't know if the americans still have anything against him, but im my thought he was a wolderful person.

About Bush, he's one of my top-hated people. Don't matter if you're protecting your country interests, or anything like it, in my opinion he don't have the right to open war with anyone, anytime, anywhere. He's not the world's owner. At least not for me.
 
chaos said:
My mom, mainly. Why is Kurt Cobain your hero? He was a drug addict that killed himself. Do you really want to follow in those footsteps?
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He also beat up some kid over what toppings to put on a pizza, getting him kicked out of the only house that would ever take his stupid ass in.

Edit: I have no real role models, I figure that people who live well now wouldn't if they lived the same way 20 years later.
 
Gordon bitner Hinckley, my football coach, my parents (both come from broken familys).

i suppose hes not really a great role model, but you have to admit william murderface still rocks.
 
Tmnt Boy said:
I guess when i think of Wilson i look at how he was considered very racist president. But you did remind me that even though he was racist he did do a good job when dealing with foreign affairs. So i assume as a political leader he would be a great role model but as a person he wouldn't be one of mine.
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I know what you mean.

I respect his way with diplomacy, is a more accurate way of describing it.
 
Vyacheslav said:
I know what you mean.

I respect his way with diplomacy, is a more accurate way of describing it.
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It's funny... Wilson was a member of the same fraternity that I joined, so naturally he has attained demigod status. There's a bi-annual leadership academy for incoming chapter presidents that is named after him. He made the Fourteen Points, helped shape the United Nations...

But we didn't join the United Nations. Wilson was bullheaded and tried to make the entirety of Europe do what he wanted, and when they told him where he could cram his Fourteen Points he threw a hissy fit and we held out of the UN. Real mature. Also, the way he completely helped dismantle and internally destroy Germany after WWI could in some parts be blamed for leaving Germany so weak and susceptible to Hitler's rise to power.
 
chaos said:
My mom, mainly. Why is Kurt Cobain your hero? He was a drug addict that killed himself. Do you really want to follow in those footsteps?
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Cobain said that drugs are stupid in a lot of interviews actually, but, yeah, he did marry Courtney Love and kill himself.
 
Hmm...I'm a big history buff, so I could go on and on, but let me post a short list.

Theodore Roosevelt
Ulysses Grant
Ernest Shackleton
Ataturk (Kemal)
Boris Yeltsin
Caesar
Robert E. Lee
Anton Denikin
Wellington
John Pershing

None of 'em are perfect, and no two are the same - you have to look at some of the traits of each, and follow the aspects that you admire most.
 
Lutalo said:
It's funny... Wilson was a member of the same fraternity that I joined, so naturally he has attained demigod status. There's a bi-annual leadership academy for incoming chapter presidents that is named after him. He made the Fourteen Points, helped shape the United Nations...

But we didn't join the United Nations. Wilson was bullheaded and tried to make the entirety of Europe do what he wanted, and when they told him where he could cram his Fourteen Points he threw a hissy fit and we held out of the UN. Real mature. Also, the way he completely helped dismantle and internally destroy Germany after WWI could in some parts be blamed for leaving Germany so weak and susceptible to Hitler's rise to power.
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Wilsonian America never was in the United Nations. Wilson proposed the League of Nations. The Fourteen Points WERE used as a guideline for post-War reperations inflicted on Germany. As well, Wilson was the MOST lenient of the three major Entente-allies (GB, France, America), and he was the 'idealist' of them, pushing for relxed terms. Britain was more moderate, but France was the country that put Germany in it's ravaged after-war position.
 
Vyacheslav said:
Wilsonian America never was in the United Nations. Wilson proposed the League of Nations. The Fourteen Points WERE used as a guideline for post-War reperations inflicted on Germany. As well, Wilson was the MOST lenient of the three major Entente-allies (GB, France, America), and he was the 'idealist' of them, pushing for relxed terms. Britain was more moderate, but France was the country that put Germany in it's ravaged after-war position.
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I'm sorry, you're right, I definitely meant the LEAGUE OF Nations, not the UN. Brainfart on my part.
 
Lutalo said:
I'm sorry, you're right, I definitely meant the LEAGUE OF Nations, not the UN. Brainfart on my part.
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Oh its not problem..stuff happens to me all the time.

If I made any mistakes in my Wilson disection please point them out as I am trying to be more accurate with what I say.
 
Maynard Keenan when I was younger, then I realized he was a pretentious dick.

Bill Hicks definitely. Always impressed when someone can transmit an intelligent political/environmental/yougetthepointal message through the medium of a mainstream skill (in this case, comedy).

Champions (of anything). I hate mediocrity, so whenever I see a particularly amazing feat that wins the competition in ANYTHING I begin to admire them. For example, my friend recently taught himself arabic so that he could take a course at university. I find it incredible that despite working full time he was still able to teach himself fluent arabic with no assisstance other than word cards.
 
Vyacheslav said:
Oh its not problem..stuff happens to me all the time.

If I made any mistakes in my Wilson disection please point them out as I am trying to be more accurate with what I say.
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I'd have to brush up on the subject, I'm a little rusty on WWI, but it seems about right to me.
 
I idolize Abraham Lincoln. I can only dream of being as powerful of a writer as he was.

I like Madonna too, even though she is a stupid skank. She sticks to her guns, even when other people dn't like it.
 
Misaki said:
Honestly. I like the way he thinks... don't know if the americans still have anything against him, but im my thought he was a wolderful person.

About Bush, he's one of my top-hated people. Don't matter if you're protecting your country interests, or anything like it, in my opinion he don't have the right to open war with anyone, anytime, anywhere. He's not the world's owner. At least not for me.
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So no war is just?
 
To be perfectly honest, I don't have any role models, or at least people I want to emulate. Sure, there are people I admire, like chaos who can somehow manage juggling Smogon, school, and a social life or dm who, despite working hard, still find time to hang out with us losers on irc or at Smocon (warstory coming soon!)
 
My role models when i was young were detectives but more specifically PIs, I have just always liked the mystique the job has around it. Fighting crimes but not being part of the system, being just as much involved with the authorites as you are the offenders. Believing in justice but not becoming another political pawn like cops often do. But that was just my childhood fantasy. The good thing about being an adult is not having to have a role model but to make up your own mind about what you want to be.




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Nobody has set that much of an example for me, at least I want to follow, so, in a sense, I do not have a role model. Though I do look up to certain people enough for them to be considered one.

-Joey Jordison

Really, one of the few things I look up to people at life is drumming, and I'd hve to sya without a shadow of a doubt that Joey Jordison takes the cake as my favorite. Perhaps he is worth being my role model, because I try hard to play his music, and practice being as fast as him, yet I never seem to get anywhere. So he is the closest thing I may have to a role model.
 
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