I mean I can draw my own conclusions from it and I think everybody should over what he tells us, but I would like to hear his thoughts as well. you can’t make an iso and then just not give us your thoughts on the isod person
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NOC Why Is There A Gun In My Popcorn? 2: Old Country Boogaloo [GAME OVER Town Wins]
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I know that's what I said. He gave us an iso without any opinion.
uh he is giving commentary after the hal iso hold your horses
Wayan Vistar
formerly Flyhn
*cough*
exactly my point against Duskfall because the iso is fine and he said thoughts will come later but I don’t want him to skip the thoughts and try to get away with it
The post is still super fillery and kinda pointless imo?
Would've just preferred he posted his thoughts rather than all that
Would've just preferred he posted his thoughts rather than all that
Regardless yeah I will wait for his opinion
Wayan Vistar
formerly Flyhn
FULL HAL POSTMORTEM ISO
Asek has gun
#246- shitpost
#247- agrees to rand
#257- doubles down on randing
#258- randrandrandraaaand
#259- a convoluted method to rand
#260- tags AG for the above posts
#262- Calls WaterLily town for her post explaining a Fenrir townread
#263- aaaand back to dwelling on the randing. lots of filler with regards to the rand in his early content, why the fuck did I townread him here again?
#269- "lmao just rand"
#271- rand first three and "revaluate"
#273- calls Sam town for calling randing "the big dick play"
#288- emphasizing how I listed him as a Townie Town in my initial readslist despite just showing up... yeah that was my bad
#289- more game irrelevant stuff about his bad day
#291- more of this
#298- aura notice me
#299- shitpost at Moody's expense
#302- "what" to Fenrir showing up and disagreeing with randing
#305- acknowledgement of AG's issues with his randing methods
#307- "gun me asek", claims to instashoot random if gunned
Bloody has gun
#523- "i'd shoot clarinet on principle", joining DS' "bus clarinet" train
#532- says he didn't even see the Asek shot
#533- asks Bloody who they're shooting
#534- "how the fuck am i lowposting null"
#535- "not to mention all your posts are crap"
#536- Calls DS and Clarinet good shots, he's going for the double bus
#537- filler
#538- DS' take on Clarinet's post deletion is "interesting"
#539- Sam and Mewtwo probably good
#544- Once again calls for Clarinet and DS shots
#545- Calls Fenrir scum
#559- dismissive of Texas' shotlist having him first
#560- shitpost
#564- "what the fuck is this post" to Sam making a Texas scum hot take
Mewtwo has gun
#665- "strong reason" Dusk is scum
#667- "He's giggling like a fucking maniac"
#669- "This is the worst ever"
#671- asks if we want a video
#674- "LMAO" to Dusk
#676- "Hang on"
#677- we learn Dusk is drunk
#682- "SO FUCKING DUMB"
#684- language, good sir
#687- The Dusk is Drunk Saga continues
#688- "i won't lynch you yet"
#695- ..we're still wasting time on this?
#698- *sigh* i guess we are
#703- this just in, we're STILL on this
#714- -_-
#715- -_-
#718- -_-
#720- -_-
#721- -_-
#724- -_-
#728- We aren't talking about it in person
Hannah shot and killed
#762- "How many town do we need to win?"
#763- Dusk is town
#769- Calls for a Fenrir shot
#774- doubles down explaining why Dusk is town
#778- "if you think I was scum with clarinet you have some soul searching to do" ...funny, you were
#784- "lolJalmont"
#785- and we're back to randing again
Hey guys I think I've finally learned hal's scum meta, he's fillery as shit
First things first, my Clarinet ISO is no longer on the latest page, so I'll just go ahead and quote it here
Now that the theory that DS was busing is flat out confirmed, we can also gleam "Okay, what was it DS WANTED us to see by emphasizing we should look back on these posts when someone flipped scum?" Well, on a surface level his behavior around Samoyed was certainly strange. Clarinet whenever Sam was pushing on him got dismissive, and he never ended up pushing even so much as a scumlean on him, but.. at the same time, DS' comments about looking into the presumably expected Clarinet scumflip make me very weary about looking into these interactions as anything but a red herring. I mainly went back to Clarinet to find what DS wanted us to see, what trap was he setting us up to fall into? People who know Sam better than me have claimed numerous times he's FAR outside his scum meta, so I'm sheeping that for now.
bonerman looks better coming out of this from this mindset too, he interacted with both DS and Clarinet a fair bit, and it seemed like they were trying to set up some sort of trap for him as well with these interactions to me. Unless they were playing COMPLETELY nuts and this was yet ANOTHER hidden bus attempt, but I highly doubt they'd do that at this point, which makes me lean more that bonerman's town too.
Then we come to hal's ISO, which is even more fillery than i remembered when I read his posts the first time.. like holy shit he hardly said ANYTHING. He was also completely obsessed with the idea of randing the shots, and seeing as he was scum and this'd be a horrible idea odds wise, this was a VERY transparent ploy to look townie. And unlike with Clarinet, hal wasn't being called to be shot during the whole DS vs Clarinet fiasco.
Speaking of, by the end of DS vs Clarinet hal was bussing BOTH of them. What was his intent behind this? Simple towncred? Knowing hal, probably. He's also sheeping the pretty consensus at this point Sam townread a bunch.. which feels kinda like a trap once again. Scum want us to doubt this read I feel, so their making odd choices with how they treat Sam.
He also seemed kinda flip-floppy. Early, he townreads WaterLily for coming to a town!Fenrir conclusion, only for Fenrir to be his own top scumread later on. This can be interpreted that he was trying to read WaterLily as bad town, but again, he wouldn't have been the first to make that take. This was also the only comment he ever made on WaterLily at all.. is this another trap though? I don't think hal was expecting to be shot at this point.. this take just really bugs me
His fixation on AG seems mostly fixated on the fact he's the one who proposed randshooting. I wouldn't put much stock in it beyond that honestly
Then of course, there's the entire Dusk is Drunk Saga. The hot question of the hour is of course, was this a bus? Dusk hadn't had any sort of interaction with any of the dead scum prior to this, but we need to remember he subbed for Caffeine. And Clarinet made a usual wishy-washy post about Caffeine's start of game shitpost, saying shoot it, but questioning if it was actually scum... also I'll need to double check my DS ISO to see where DS talked about Caffeine, if at all... solving Dusk is probably going to be important here, and this entire exchange with hal just confuses the shit out of me. Dealing with people who know each other irl in these games is never a fun time X_X
That's what I have for now.
tl;dr
Sam's still town, bonerman's probably also town, hal's treatment of WaterLily pings me, and we NEED to solve Dusk as soon as possible
Asek has gun
#246- shitpost
#247- agrees to rand
#257- doubles down on randing
#258- randrandrandraaaand
#259- a convoluted method to rand
#260- tags AG for the above posts
#262- Calls WaterLily town for her post explaining a Fenrir townread
#263- aaaand back to dwelling on the randing. lots of filler with regards to the rand in his early content, why the fuck did I townread him here again?
#269- "lmao just rand"
#271- rand first three and "revaluate"
#273- calls Sam town for calling randing "the big dick play"
#288- emphasizing how I listed him as a Townie Town in my initial readslist despite just showing up... yeah that was my bad
#289- more game irrelevant stuff about his bad day
#291- more of this
#298- aura notice me
#299- shitpost at Moody's expense
#302- "what" to Fenrir showing up and disagreeing with randing
#305- acknowledgement of AG's issues with his randing methods
#307- "gun me asek", claims to instashoot random if gunned
Bloody has gun
#523- "i'd shoot clarinet on principle", joining DS' "bus clarinet" train
#532- says he didn't even see the Asek shot
#533- asks Bloody who they're shooting
#534- "how the fuck am i lowposting null"
#535- "not to mention all your posts are crap"
#536- Calls DS and Clarinet good shots, he's going for the double bus
#537- filler
#538- DS' take on Clarinet's post deletion is "interesting"
#539- Sam and Mewtwo probably good
#544- Once again calls for Clarinet and DS shots
#545- Calls Fenrir scum
#559- dismissive of Texas' shotlist having him first
#560- shitpost
#564- "what the fuck is this post" to Sam making a Texas scum hot take
Mewtwo has gun
#665- "strong reason" Dusk is scum
#667- "He's giggling like a fucking maniac"
#669- "This is the worst ever"
#671- asks if we want a video
#674- "LMAO" to Dusk
#676- "Hang on"
#677- we learn Dusk is drunk
#682- "SO FUCKING DUMB"
#684- language, good sir
#687- The Dusk is Drunk Saga continues
#688- "i won't lynch you yet"
#695- ..we're still wasting time on this?
#698- *sigh* i guess we are
#703- this just in, we're STILL on this
#714- -_-
#715- -_-
#718- -_-
#720- -_-
#721- -_-
#724- -_-
#728- We aren't talking about it in person
Hannah shot and killed
#762- "How many town do we need to win?"
#763- Dusk is town
#769- Calls for a Fenrir shot
#774- doubles down explaining why Dusk is town
#778- "if you think I was scum with clarinet you have some soul searching to do" ...funny, you were
#784- "lolJalmont"
#785- and we're back to randing again
Hey guys I think I've finally learned hal's scum meta, he's fillery as shit
First things first, my Clarinet ISO is no longer on the latest page, so I'll just go ahead and quote it here
SO WHAT CAN WE LEARN HERE?
Now that the theory that DS was busing is flat out confirmed, we can also gleam "Okay, what was it DS WANTED us to see by emphasizing we should look back on these posts when someone flipped scum?" Well, on a surface level his behavior around Samoyed was certainly strange. Clarinet whenever Sam was pushing on him got dismissive, and he never ended up pushing even so much as a scumlean on him, but.. at the same time, DS' comments about looking into the presumably expected Clarinet scumflip make me very weary about looking into these interactions as anything but a red herring. I mainly went back to Clarinet to find what DS wanted us to see, what trap was he setting us up to fall into? People who know Sam better than me have claimed numerous times he's FAR outside his scum meta, so I'm sheeping that for now.
bonerman looks better coming out of this from this mindset too, he interacted with both DS and Clarinet a fair bit, and it seemed like they were trying to set up some sort of trap for him as well with these interactions to me. Unless they were playing COMPLETELY nuts and this was yet ANOTHER hidden bus attempt, but I highly doubt they'd do that at this point, which makes me lean more that bonerman's town too.
Then we come to hal's ISO, which is even more fillery than i remembered when I read his posts the first time.. like holy shit he hardly said ANYTHING. He was also completely obsessed with the idea of randing the shots, and seeing as he was scum and this'd be a horrible idea odds wise, this was a VERY transparent ploy to look townie. And unlike with Clarinet, hal wasn't being called to be shot during the whole DS vs Clarinet fiasco.
Speaking of, by the end of DS vs Clarinet hal was bussing BOTH of them. What was his intent behind this? Simple towncred? Knowing hal, probably. He's also sheeping the pretty consensus at this point Sam townread a bunch.. which feels kinda like a trap once again. Scum want us to doubt this read I feel, so their making odd choices with how they treat Sam.
He also seemed kinda flip-floppy. Early, he townreads WaterLily for coming to a town!Fenrir conclusion, only for Fenrir to be his own top scumread later on. This can be interpreted that he was trying to read WaterLily as bad town, but again, he wouldn't have been the first to make that take. This was also the only comment he ever made on WaterLily at all.. is this another trap though? I don't think hal was expecting to be shot at this point.. this take just really bugs me
His fixation on AG seems mostly fixated on the fact he's the one who proposed randshooting. I wouldn't put much stock in it beyond that honestly
Then of course, there's the entire Dusk is Drunk Saga. The hot question of the hour is of course, was this a bus? Dusk hadn't had any sort of interaction with any of the dead scum prior to this, but we need to remember he subbed for Caffeine. And Clarinet made a usual wishy-washy post about Caffeine's start of game shitpost, saying shoot it, but questioning if it was actually scum... also I'll need to double check my DS ISO to see where DS talked about Caffeine, if at all... solving Dusk is probably going to be important here, and this entire exchange with hal just confuses the shit out of me. Dealing with people who know each other irl in these games is never a fun time X_X
That's what I have for now.
tl;dr
Sam's still town, bonerman's probably also town, hal's treatment of WaterLily pings me, and we NEED to solve Dusk as soon as possible
I don't think he was townread at all? I certainly didn't townread him nor remember anyone saying that
meh he was a town lean for me before I shot him tbh.
Wayan Vistar
formerly Flyhn
Couldn't say. Fenrir wasn't really discussed much by the other flipped scum, so i don't have anything else to really go off of there. I'm working on dissecting DS' readslist a bit more again with the new info we have, since neither Clarinet or hal gave us one, might have an answer once that's finished
Wayan Vistar
formerly Flyhn
Alright, let's come back to this with two more flipped scum and a bunch more people we need to look at.
We have bonerman at neutral, who at this point seems like a mislynch trap to me, but the possibility he's deepscum does still exist, though unlikely. Also in the neutrals with him are myself and the two unsubbed inactives., and at that time I hadn't made that many posts either. Just my original readslist as my big one I believe. But because this category is mostly inactives, bonerman's placement here is probably to contribute to this WIFOM trap more than anything, I'm leaning if one of toni or Fenrir flips scum bonerman's even more likely actually town
In town we have Mewtwo, who's clear, Sam, who's pretty consensus and seems like we're trying to be duped into thinking he's scum right now, and hal, who WAS scum. About the mix i'd expect.
Townleans get interesting. Caffeine>Dusk slot is listed there despite hardly doing a thing at this point, alongside Magic and the Jalmont>Texas slot. If the same pattern of spreading scum partners between reads that I think could potentially be in play here, that would seem to mean at least one of these three is scum. That would reveal quite a bit about Dusk, even if Dusk himself isn't the shot in this scenario
Then we get to scumleans. Jordan and Moody being below the other inactives is... interesting, and it seems DS was actively drawing attention to them by doing this. Then alongside them we have AG and WaterLily, which is.. also bizarre. WaterLily's very weird with how hal treated that one post of theirs, and AG seems to be more town than scum to me at this point based on meta. Combine the two lean categories and I feel there's gotta be at least 1 scum in EACH of these categories, probably a second in one of them
Wayan Vistar
formerly Flyhn
tl;dr
His remaining unidentified townread is Sam, who is basically top town right now
Townleans most likely has 1 scum
Neutral/Scumleans have the remaining 3 between them, split 2-1, though I'm unsure which one's the 2
His remaining unidentified townread is Sam, who is basically top town right now
Townleans most likely has 1 scum
Neutral/Scumleans have the remaining 3 between them, split 2-1, though I'm unsure which one's the 2
Wayan Vistar
formerly Flyhn
No preference in that group, any of them would give us some information
Wayan Vistar
formerly Flyhn
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