NOC Why is there a gun in my popcorn? GAME OVER SCUM WIN

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if jalmont was just a random person in a noc telling me to vote Sam, is laugh and keep leading your (fh) lynch. here, he's confirmed town, telling us his strongest scum read and asking for our opinions. I'll get to shoot you if i get the gun, and jalmont should be able to shoot who he wants now that he has the gun. again, id argue if I thought Sam was probably town, but I don't tr him and therefore shouldn't argue. this game has an interesting mechanic: you need EVRRYONE to tr you to succeed as scum or some random dude will shoot you. if you direct the gunbearer to your read of choice you're removing the inherent huge advantage town has.

in simpler words: there's somebody almost every game who nails the scum team, by chance if nothing else. in this game they get to do something about it! that one person who nails the scum team is enough to win the game. that person shooting someone outside their scum reads removes that.
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This post makes me think sam is like 85% clean now
 
i haven't read a lot of specific content so this is mostly tone/perceived meta

i would be stunned if these people flip scum:
twin
yeti

lean town:
flyhn (would be a tier up if he wasn't so consensus)
unclesam
asek (i know i called him scummy in my last post but i did a quick reskim and the thing i thought i saw wasn't there)

idk:
blazade (always sounds vaguely towny to me regardless of alignment)
aura guardian

lean scum:
hitmonleet
moody
former hope
 
for the record i've been mostly reading the thread, i just haven't been able to muster up the effort to post

if that gets me shot or something then w/e, i'll make an effort to make an effort once i have the gun
 
hey Hitmonleet earlier today you said you thought moody was town but a few days ago you had him as one of your top scumreads. what changed? are the original reasons for scumreading moody still valid concerns? also what are those reasons lol
 
I was planning on a Walrein ISO, but given recent posts, I decided Asek was a better ISO target. He's somewhat more peripheral to the current conversation, which I think you guys and handling. And he's an active part of it.

1 and 2: random stuff
3-4: Anti-Haruno (I used a virtually identical logic on this)
5: Theory re: Texas and Haruno
6: argue with Haruno
7: ???
8: for debate on why Texas first due to only data point
9: Votes Yeti
10: Wants to clear out idlers early so we don't have to worry about them later.
11: complains about ninja'd
12: Mild objection to Empoof being fine with a Former Hope shot
13: Against US's comprehensive reads list idea on first shot
14: FoS US having re-read the reads
15: Suspects me (Aura Guardian) for my push on Blazade
16: for shooting US (for a really bad post)
17: Bad format commentary
18: More anti-US
19: more pro-FH against Empoof
20: Snarks at US
21: Anti-Haruno's post
22: Notes that Empoof and Blazade both think he's a threat, biggest threat to him is Twin (if Mafia, for all)
23: For Empoof as last clean townie; would shoot: Haruno, former hope, unclesam, yeti. Argues against Yeti's saying US isn't mafia then b/c Yeti not first gunbearer (aka, against WIFOM)
24: Anti-US
25: Asks Josh for clarification on Moody read (re: red flag)
26: Pro-Jalmont
27: anti-idlers. Not in the vote or shoot them way.
28: Agrees with Flyhn's #527 except on Yeti - Asek is anti-Yeti here.
29: If Twin is mafia, US is clear
30: Snark's at Yeti calling out all but 3
31: Trollface at Yeti
32: Wallpost of reads! Neutralish on Sam, anti-Yeti, pro Empoof and Flyhn
33: Insults Haruno when threatened with RNG
34: Argues against shubaka's post re: Yeti cleaning Yeti
35: Fine with Flyhn last townie
36-37: low access
38-40: WTF towards Haruno reaction on Haruno shooting Empoof
41: Against another of Yeti's posts
42: Calls Yeti scum, will answer her questions later.
43: Against DLE calling Yeti townie
44: "Like how yeti and sam contunuously say i do nothing when ive tried consistently to create meaningful connections with others in the playerlisr rather then only post stagnant reads lists"
45: highlights host b/c gunbearer botched it
46: Said he was against shooting DBW
47: Anti-Moody, followed by anti-US and anti-Twin
48: Explains anti-Moody
49: Against Blazade saying Twin or Asek should be shot. Also against the plethora of typos in that post?
50: Can't link from phone, mentions it's the only bigpost (aka his 32)
51: Conserving mobile data to keep up with this
52: Against RNG-ing the shot, anti-Blazade
53: Anti-Moody, ...quasi-for Yeti? at least not as against any more. Wants to look into Twin, Fort, and Former Hope. Anti-Blazade
54: Starting to lean town on US, figures he's a well-meaning buffoon
55: ??? on W-D (flailing, experience, unknown bussing?)
56: Would townread W-D if absolutely necessary to read him
57: Notes that he keeps getting lumped with town - duo town idea?
58: Calls out Moody for "cop-out consensus reads" on US/FH/W-D
59: Figures two of them are bad shots
60: Wants Gunbearer reads on twin, self, and moody
61: Admits error re: W-D
62: Solidly reads Flyhn as town
63: Clarifies: Empoof and self BOTH townread Flyhn
64: Anti-King_
65: "Josh moody fort scum team" one other. Josh and Fort were both correct.
66: Wants Twin-Flyhn argument summary
67: vaguely Anti-King
68: mobile data used
69: Is back, keeps forgetting I'm in the game. YES that is a bad thing.
70-72: Against reads lists: stagnant content. But likes UncleSam's posts (and lampshades the irony)
73: Anti-King
74: Wants posts to be liked for the like ratio
75: still anti-reads list
76: Is against King_ scumreading Sam
77: Thinks Sam is town for TR'ing Asek and Twin, when others put him them in Null (and other reasons)
78: town core: Sam, Flyhn; followed by Twin
79: still waiting on Walrein post
80: for shooting: King, Pancake, Blazade. 2/3 shot and 2/3 mafia.
81-82: Remove Blazade, add Moody
83: Snark at a reads post with Jalmont as idling scum (made by Moody)
84: "Scum team pancake /josh, fort / king, and moody"
85: is home
86: ??? on twin-king $500 bet
87: New town core: unclesam, flyhn, twin.
88: josh + fort + moody scum team; me as last scum option
89: Suggests it because the flips.
90: Thinks Former Hope is town; thinks Josh was buddying Hitmonleet/Moody as Town/Scum (or Scum/Town); previously had forgotten hitmonleet was in it.
91: no more than one of Twin and Sam is scum
92: bet was serious?
93: asks Jalmont to shoot King_; immediately happens; scum down
94: Still for shooting: moody --> walrein --> hitmonleet --> aura guardian -->blazade
95: Agrees with twin that sam is clean-y

VERDICT: Spookily accurate. Either he's the guy who nails it, or his luck is running out, or he's scum bussing. I wasn't so sure about Moody, but I think MoodyCloud is a good shot. If he's clean, then that rules out the scum bussing for Asek. If he's not clean, then Asek is either really accurate or the mafia's designated last man to go into the endgame (and thus should be shot when down to 1 mafia.)

If Asek is scum and Moody isn't, then I will buy a hat and eat it. If Moody is Scum, then ??? on Asek.
 
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