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NOC WikiMafia 2 Game Thread [Day 2]

I feel like this has been resolved in a way it should not have been simply because psy was ultimately targeted by me and rather than bliz who should’ve been

Like is it possible celever said i was redirected to bliz by psy, and therefore targeted psy because psy targeted bliz? And I should’ve targeted them both but my hood caps at 2 and I was already adding flanders
i was under the assumption that both bliz and i would be added to the neighbor chat alongside flandrs but if this is explicitly impossible I’m bery curious how this would resolve Celever
 
just when i think im folding on you being scum you screw it up

The only way I could be screwing anything up, is if you are mafia, otherwise I’m just reading you correctly

If you want to push me i understand you have reasons but please don’t get into this paranoia stuff where just because i think you’re town, I must be mafia

Your emotions this entire day phase are so towny, honestly if you were mafia at this point I’d be genuinely mad
 
The only way I could be screwing anything up, is if you are mafia, otherwise I’m just reading you correctly

If you want to push me i understand you have reasons but please don’t get into this paranoia stuff where just because i think you’re town, I must be mafia

Your emotions this entire day phase are so towny, honestly if you were mafia at this point I’d be genuinely mad
i dont think youre mafa because you think im town its becaue you say youre obvious town. you know that youre not and youre contradicting yourself
 
seriously though like if you think im lying fine

why does half the playerbase tunnel me when i call them town and try call me mafia pocketing them every game, its not just a psy thing and youre getting the brunt here but its genuinely so frustrating to try play with people when anyone i try work with thinks im pocketing them or some shit lol

anyways psy is town, hes never being voted, i am also town, but i gain a buff post death but still am presumably a bad vote over literal people who arent posting
 
this never would be happening if not for this mech stuff. i dont want to be doing this to you right now and im sorry i wish we were just playing like normal but theres no way i can trust you now

i understand the mech, im just a bit annoyed too because im genuinely town and its so clear to me you are town lmao and i understand where you are coming from but like i know im town and i know if i get voted tomorrow is just going to be a trainwreck again and youre going to be under pressure and youre very clearly town lmao
 
This is dumb btw, considering we have 5 mafia, roles that can block redirects/blocks, assumedly a healer and that mafia's easiest claim is TI we should be getting results from them, dying in silence while your results do nothing for town is the most useless thing you can do for them.
So if I'm following the logic... the mafia can redirect and block (and kill), therefore we should make sure the town invests claim as early as possible? The downside here seems so obvious that

i can accept i make mistakes but this would be like a chess 2000 elo getting scholar's mate cheesed, its a very basic i would never in any world do this

and thats fine you cannot believe me you havent played with me that long, but thats why the only one i expect to know i wouldnt is realiti

(also i would like to point out any time ive said it, its been true, because youve never seen me as mafia)
This is about the success/redirect thing right? I agree with Tommy's analysis of that but I certainly don't think it's comparable to being scholar's mated. Redirects and success/fail semantics are both notoriously finnicky and I have seen people rule the exact same situation very differently with both concepts, let alone the two concepts together!
this is true actually. phoopes probably empowered bliz and not me but my action was still successful (and if it wasnt then it would be anyway because of the empower which seems paradoxical)

is it just random chance? that seems unhinged even for a game like this
Would I know at this point if I was empowered?
IM HERE IM HERE I make everyone who targets someone also target their target's target. I targeted psy so anyone who targeted psy would thus also target whoever psy targeted aka bliz. my role pm explicitly said this will impact the number of results ppl get
What in the actual fuck

Okay I'm going to have to go back to work in like 5 minutes but I'll be back in a little while. Kinda skimmed after HH's post. Feeling a bit of impostor syndrome when I was like "oh I have lots of mafia experience" and then it turned out we're in a game with multiple redirect lightning rod shenanigans and I have to try and figure out what the fuck is going on in 30 minute intervals between work >_>
 
So if I'm following the logic... the mafia can redirect and block (and kill), therefore we should make sure the town invests claim as early as possible? The downside here seems so obvious that

no town has redirects, mafia potentially does also and has blocks, that also means we want the exact opposite and ivnestigates to not claim, which was also obvious, mafia obiovusly has disrupts so if you claim investigates youre basically saying "we dont want to use this anymore"
 
Okay I'm going to have to go back to work in like 5 minutes but I'll be back in a little while. Kinda skimmed after HH's post. Feeling a bit of impostor syndrome when I was like "oh I have lots of mafia experience" and then it turned out we're in a game with multiple redirect lightning rod shenanigans and I have to try and figure out what the fuck is going on in 30 minute intervals between work >_>

dont worry we are all lost as fuck lmao
 
What in the actual fuck

Okay I'm going to have to go back to work in like 5 minutes but I'll be back in a little while. Kinda skimmed after HH's post. Feeling a bit of impostor syndrome when I was like "oh I have lots of mafia experience" and then it turned out we're in a game with multiple redirect lightning rod shenanigans and I have to try and figure out what the fuck is going on in 30 minute intervals between work >_>
Welcome to Smogon role madness son
Wait so who did Bliz target last night?
This whole situation reeks of tvt with some mafia role interference?
Thank you for this extremely cold and probably coached take, Mr. Probscum
 
Okay so my reads are

Me - town
Psy - town
Dbd - town
Liquid relief- null
Tommy - town
A fairy- town
Pulsar- towny
Flanders - towny
Genisu- town
Shy pebble- scum
Hydro - towny
Evie - towny
Bd - scum

Idk if this helps but that's what I thought
 
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