• Check out the relaunch of our general collection, with classic designs and new ones by our very own Pissog!

NOC WikiMafia 2 Game Thread [Day 3]

pulsar512b said:
i dont see how this doesnt explain why i voted saber. i didnt like the slot and gave a reason for it

also wrt to defending bd he literally didnt post shit theres no defense anyone could give other than 'hopefully he gets less busy' which was my thought.
Click to expand...
The reason you gave was OMGUS, that doesn't tend to go over well. Vibing with the bluedoom comment tho, strange how every bluedoom defender seems to be getting pushed except me. Not sure what it means but something to take note of
 
Dead by Daylight said:
I'm going to be honest here - the post by Peum @ #2569 reeks of scum pulling back upon receiving some sort of pushback to their seemingly guaranteed push
Click to expand...
Its a fair assumption, difference is that I've made my arguments clear through today, there's some people I would like pushed today. Im fine with either you, genisu or liquid.

pulsar512b said:
why genisu? i'll do an iso of him if i have to but im interested in your perspective
Click to expand...
I think I made my argument against genisu long ago, let me search for it
 
Peum said:
Genisu: I said before that scum can totally sound like town, but this is the contrary case. They are 100% talking like a scum would, I really dont like their posts. They feel manufactured and forced
Click to expand...
I recommend going to the post, I quote a lot of posts that sound scummy to me. Its basically the same opinion as yesterday, and that genisu didnt have a great SOD today
 
Blizihguh said:
Ftr I am not typing up my entire reads list on my phone in the car but this is close to where I'm at. Here are my patch notes:

AF and AirC townier, in my skim of EOD2 it seems like they could have easily voted saber and chose to help bury bd instead. Also given their antics at the start of today I don't think genisu can be scum with AF lol. In general I also get a good vibe off of AF's posting and analysis so they're more towny than Airc imo.

DBD I have redder, the early bd defense really reeks of scum trying to enable a hard lurking buddy imo.

Neutral on des, I haven't seen them do much but ig this is their meta

Saber prob town. Saber being the lynch dueling with bd is somewhat exonerating. That being said if they're town I would expect scum to have been voting them. With town saber I'd imagine at most one scum is on bd since any more and they actively chose to kill bd instead of saber. With the way bd was posting yesterday I think he had a fair chance to survive D3 if he actually made it out of D2.

By that same logic I think Phoopes and genisu look worse. Would not be surprised by scum as Phoopes genisu bd dbd + one person from the other wagon
Click to expand...
I don't like this post. It's very dangerous to make those assumptions about AF and AirC when saber's slot still isn't resolved at all and the idea of a bus is still worth exploring despite there being a healthier second wagon than D1.

Don't make me put my Bliz + saber scum tinfoil hat from earlier back on...

also interesting to see your stance on DBD hardening as the main DBD pusher goes in the opposite direction
 
Peum said:
Because saving bluedoom there is so good in that situation that they would almost guarantee a winning position in that situation, also tryharding reads can be good from time to time, but if we tryhard every read by thinking "why would he do this if they would think he's mafia next" we would just fall in a hole where we let mafia save their companions without ever sussing them. They've also not made any real reads in this game, not contributed any good leads or do anything else that isnt misdirecting town.

I have given them a chance to defend themselves, They have decided to not do anynthing to defend themselves, so I will be voting them.
Click to expand...
Leonard Likes This Post

Staying on liquid atm but if I had two votes the other would be on dbd
 
StupidFlandrs48 said:
I don't like this post. It's very dangerous to make those assumptions about AF and AirC when saber's slot still isn't resolved at all and the idea of a bus is still worth exploring despite there being a healthier second wagon than D1.

Don't make me put my Bliz + saber scum tinfoil hat from earlier back on...

also interesting to see your stance on DBD hardening as the main DBD pusher goes in the opposite direction
Click to expand...
I'm not saying they're conftown but like I would be surprised if they were BOTH scum at least for the reasons I outlined. If you honestly think saber is scum at this point I would be curious why mafia were totally content to let the dueling wagons be two scum

Ftr none of what I said should mean to imply that I'm hard reading saber as town. Just think that's most likely rn. Ideally we could clear saber somehow.
 
If it helps you with your tinfoil hat I would heavily heavily encourage any town invests to check saber tonight. They're probably the most controversial person at this point and if they're town it would be really good to know. Conversely if they're scum: hey we caught scum

Excited to see Flandrs in their "Bliz scum + saber godfather" hat
 
Dead by Daylight said:
Scum was already in a winning position though
Click to expand...
DBD I really do not get where this was coming from D2 let alone now that bd is dead. You seem to be under the impression that a single mislynch D1 is really bad for town?? My only concern about us rn is that we lost our vigcop but in terms of kill math our trajectory is actually pretty good. Losing one good role early is pretty average although vigcop is kind of an insane role especially with energizer stuff going around to make it less delayed. That's pick your flavor for you though. Wouldn't be surprised if we had at least two more roles on a similar power level.

I would like to apply the new-to-me concept of WIM here!
 
ShyPebble said:
Didn't you have them as null on your last reads list though?
Click to expand...
a fairy said:
was about to say yea, your first readslist had them scum then you moved them to null?
Click to expand...
AirC said:
You stole my line
Click to expand...
Psypsypsypsypsythe said:
this reminds me, your final readlist yesterday had bluedoom listed as a null read and saber listed as scum, but you were voting for bluedoom at that point? could you explain this?
Click to expand...
Hey guys I think I noticed an inconsistency with des's reads
slowpoke-2014926444.png
 
Blizihguh said:
DBD I really do not get where this was coming from D2 let alone now that bd is dead. You seem to be under the impression that a single mislynch D1 is really bad for town?? My only concern about us rn is that we lost our vigcop but in terms of kill math our trajectory is actually pretty good. Losing one good role early is pretty average although vigcop is kind of an insane role especially with energizer stuff going around to make it less delayed. That's pick your flavor for you though. Wouldn't be surprised if we had at least two more roles on a similar power level.

I would like to apply the new-to-me concept of WIM here!
Click to expand...
it was in a winning position when psy was self-destructing d2 and i was hard-defending bluedoom tbc
 
StupidFlandrs48 said:
The reason you gave was OMGUS, that doesn't tend to go over well. Vibing with the bluedoom comment tho, strange how every bluedoom defender seems to be getting pushed except me. Not sure what it means but something to take note of
Click to expand...
i dont really think being perplexed by someone making a single post pop in that reads “vote: x. x is my top scumread” with nothing else is omgus just because x is you
 
des121 said:
im trying my best but ik im still scum and not doing a good job as town but im trying
Click to expand...
Des has fallen pray to my active 1: banana toss (toss a banana at someone and if they're scum they scumslip on it)

Absolutely hilarious posting today guys

Ftr des if you are town here (which I can perfectly believe) then a: "I'm scum" means you're mafia, "I'm scummy" means people think you're mafia. And b: if you say what you think about peoples' interactions, and why you think they're good or bad, that will probably help you more than just vibing it. I do think you are probably trying to do this though and fuck this game is fast paced so I get it. It might be worth clicking Isolate Posts on a few people of interest and specifically focusing on them so you can get a solid idea to share
 
Tommy said:
3 times to target someone is not actually that strong lmao

Like alignment cop is obviously broken but like every third night, IF you’re lucky isn’t too bad all things considered

It’s not looking good for our time schedules that there’s only been one death per night though I hope this is not the sum total of town kp
Click to expand...
I think between multi acting, HH's ability, and the thing that caused you to have multiple uses of your power, that ability was very strong. It obviously has a ramp up but with a little coordination it could be firing much more than once per three nights.
 
Blizihguh said:
I'm not saying they're conftown but like I would be surprised if they were BOTH scum at least for the reasons I outlined. If you honestly think saber is scum at this point I would be curious why mafia were totally content to let the dueling wagons be two scum

Ftr none of what I said should mean to imply that I'm hard reading saber as town. Just think that's most likely rn. Ideally we could clear saber somehow.
Click to expand...
The two main wagons were fairly consolidated from a much earlier stage in the phase than at least I'm used to. If scum wanted to get a third one going they'd probably have to put their full strength towards it or close to it, and if that didn't work it'd just raise more questions about whichever of the main wagon subjects didn't get lynched and probably out more of them in the long run. That's why I dislike the premise of "saber is town because scum wouldn't let both wagons be scum." Yes they absolutely would be if the counterplay was too obvious to town, and especially if they have a widely scumread player with a weak role to jettison such as bluedoom.
 
Psypsypsypsypsythe said:
i dont realy like blizs treatment of saber today
Click to expand...
Okay I mean I'm not going to be furious if they get lynched. Actually if they get lynched I see upside either way bc if they really are town then my logic becomes much more solid and I think it's great for PoE. I do think liquid and dbd are higher priorities for me though and scum vs town feels more likely to me than scum vs scum for the wagons.
 
Blizihguh said:
Okay I mean I'm not going to be furious if they get lynched. Actually if they get lynched I see upside either way bc if they really are town then my logic becomes much more solid and I think it's great for PoE. I do think liquid and dbd are higher priorities for me though and scum vs town feels more likely to me than scum vs scum for the wagons.
Click to expand...
This is a reasonable take when you phrase it like that
 
ShyPebble said:
And some math
20 players, 4 dead. 16 players, 4 maf.

Day 3 Start - 12/4
BV - 11/4 - One
N3 NK - 10/4
D4 BV - 9/4 - Two
N4 NK - 8/4
D5 BV - 7/4 - Three
N5 NK - 6/4
Idk what you call it when you're at the point of no return but D6 would be it.
D6 BV - 5/4
N6 NK - 4/4 GAME OVER

So, we still have 3 mislynches if anyone is curious.
Click to expand...
Five maf seems likely. Usually it's like 25% not 20%. At least ime
 
Dead by Daylight said:
I'm going to be honest here - the post by Peum @ #2569 reeks of scum pulling back upon receiving some sort of pushback to their seemingly guaranteed push
Click to expand...
This is hilarious bc that was my exact reaction but also I think you're very likely scum but you're the one explaining why the person deciding not to vote you is scummy for not voting you??? @_@

I was gonna just write it off as me being paranoid tho bc I do think the post was p good so I get where peum would be coming from. Idk if you two are scum together this is some high art scum theatre
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top