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NOC WikiMafia 2 Game Thread [Day 4]

AirC said:
I sent it too early my bad. But I just think it doesn't make any sense to claim today, especially with what the reasoning behind the claim is, maybe I'm overthinking it but saying "I can't be mafia otherwise we would have 2 deaths per night" seems a bit too "easy" for me.
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We know the role exists though right because it’s been confirmed by many places including

a fairy Blizihguh and ShyPebble

So unless they are all mafia lying also, it has to exist right?
 
Tommy said:
Why opposed to genisu?

You’re worried about des voting pulsar, but want to vote pulsar with her?
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I'm not opposed about the vote, I just find the way she voted really weird, almost like someone reminded her to.

As for genisu I just can't believe he's scum, like maybe I'm stupid but his plays feels really incoherent in a way but not in a mafia way if it makes sense, I can dig some messages if needed
 
Tommy said:
We know the role exists though right because it’s been confirmed by many places including

a fairy Blizihguh and ShyPebble

So unless they are all mafia lying also, it has to exist right?
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The role can exist, but it could also not work with factional kill, as in, if player A dies from any source that isn't factional kill, player B dies too, if player A dies from factional kill, player B doesn't die. It wouldn't be that far fetched of a drawback to make the role balanced on scum, and given the drawbacks that Celever has been cooking it wouldn't be that weird either
 
Tommy said:
Every game your chance of being mafia is the same, past alignments don’t matter at all to your chances of rolling it this game unfortunately

It’s not something you pick, but something the host assigns to you, so the fact you’ve never been mafia before isn’t towny
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tbh the fact that we have to keep making posts like this makes me think that if des were actually mafia she would've scumslipped by now
 
AirC said:
She kinda did multiple time, I'm digging messages for genisu I can do that for des too
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when she "scumslipped" I agree with I think it was psy that said it was just an uncharitable reading of the post. I know what you're talking about but I think it's just the way des talks rather than an actual scumslip
 
phoopes said:
when she "scumslipped" I agree with I think it was psy that said it was just an uncharitable reading of the post. I know what you're talking about but I think it's just the way des talks rather than an actual scumslip
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No but even then things like : "I can't be scum I don't have a discord", that's like the last thing you'd say to defend yourself, it just feels so weird to me
 
AirC said:
The role can exist, but it could also not work with factional kill, as in, if player A dies from any source that isn't factional kill, player B dies too, if player A dies from factional kill, player B doesn't die. It wouldn't be that far fetched of a drawback to make the role balanced on scum, and given the drawbacks that Celever has been cooking it wouldn't be that weird either
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I think the players were informed they die if the other person dies too right, universally

Maybe I misunderstood but if it’s not clearly stated then this would be valid
 
phoopes said:
tbh the fact that we have to keep making posts like this makes me think that if des were actually mafia she would've scumslipped by now
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Lmao, maybe

But she is different to the past and I have a lot of people who are townier than her so I’m not really letting her out of Poe

But she doesn’t need to die today I think genisu is more likely mafia
 
Tommy said:
Lmao, maybe

But she is different to the past and I have a lot of people who are townier than her so I’m not really letting her out of Poe

But she doesn’t need to die today I think genisu is more likely mafia
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Fair. Here's where I stand right now:

Confident Scum:
pulsar
genisu

Likely Scum:
Bliz

Maybe Scum:
AirC
DBD
Peum

Neutral/Null:
des

Town Lean:
ShyPebble
a fairy
psy

Confident Town:
phoopes
Tommy
Flanders
saber
 
Here's the same thing just uncolored/visible:

Confident Scum:
pulsar
genisu

Likely Scum:
Bliz

Maybe Scum:
AirC
DBD
Peum

Neutral/Null:
des

Town Lean:
ShyPebble
a fairy
psy

Confident Town:
phoopes
Tommy
Flanders
saber
 
Psypsypsypsypsythe said:
P

explain flandrs
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I feel like the whole neighborhood is town. I'm obviously not privy to your neighborhood conversations but at least from what I've seen in the thread I am more likely to believe it's t/t/t than having any scum in there, especially when I have pretty good scum reads elsewhere. The only reason you're not confident town along with Tommy and Flanders is because there was actually a time where I scumread you and it's kind of residual from that lol. I think we've established over the course of a few games now that I tend to be more set in my convictions than most. I can certainly be swayed but it usually takes more for me in normal gameplay (so barring stuff like saber's innocent child resolution)
 
today's a majorly bad day for me health wise this is my readslist without much effort put in. writing the list from bottom up bc saber's at the bottom and they're the easiest. i did rewrite a bit of phoopes' at the end when i did a sanity check reread bc i left it as "its probably omgus but i feel like i town read a buncha people" and have no idea what i was trying to say

scumteam predict (this is the last thing i am writing besides the rewrite comment above): tommy des phoopes + 1. gun to head, airc i guess. but you could easily replace that with a buncha people prob.

pulsar - i dont really get the sudden push on pulsar given she hasn't been much of a vote convo this whole game. wouldn't be surprised if they came up scum but i dont get where the push is coming from.
tommy - i think you are mafia. i think giving a member of maf the neighborizer is quite the idea that cel would come up under pressure. i think in my brain right now this makes sense. if your response is "i dont bus teammates" fair i dont know how to connect the bluedoom stuff but like. im sick. i just think you're scum sorry.
flandrs - i shouldve written these top down bc i think you have a much higher chance of flipping maf than psy but like, not more than a coinflip. you're like dbd in my brain, you're acting exactly like i'd expect you to. but like you actually get involved in things and dbd is just kinda commentating. does that make sense
pebble - i read you as towny mostly because you keep asking questions. but maybe your scumchat's just not helping you. i wouldnt be surprised if you flip scum tho i dont read you as scum
dbd - i feel bad abt linking to saber lol, unfortunate. you strike me as town this feels like average dbd to me idk. you're like the loudest spectator.
airc - with all due respect i feel like they havent made an impact on this game that ive perceived. i got to this slot and my first thought was to write "they're in this game?" and leave it at that. but i probably should write something. why hasn't this slot done anything i remember?
des - maybe its the health but i am pretty strongly scum des rn. i dunno. this isnt the des im used to i feel like and its gotta mean something that more than just one person is thinking des is scum given that des is given a vibe clear every other game
phoopes - is it omgus to say i kinda scumread them bc they tried to push me and then wandered off from it when nobody bit? its probably omgus but i feel like you've been contributative but not pushing the game along? i dunno. does mafia empowerer or whatever you are even make sense? all these fucking roles are so complicated
genisu - townread. they're playing very much like they did last game to me. id be less surprised than psy if they're scum but like i dont see the angle here
bliz - doesnt play as strong as id expect someone with as big of an offsite resume as they supposedly have. adapting to smogon i guess. could be struggling as either alignment but i feel like being isolated as town leads towards that struggling more
psy - if psy is mafia it would take a large shift of gamestate for me to start suspecting them. like if there's a maf in the neighborhood they're my last guess by a significant margin. did yall figure out why psy's in neighborhood?
saber - IC, cleared
 
a fairy said:
today's a majorly bad day for me health wise this is my readslist without much effort put in. writing the list from bottom up bc saber's at the bottom and they're the easiest. i did rewrite a bit of phoopes' at the end when i did a sanity check reread bc i left it as "its probably omgus but i feel like i town read a buncha people" and have no idea what i was trying to say

scumteam predict (this is the last thing i am writing besides the rewrite comment above): tommy des phoopes + 1. gun to head, airc i guess. but you could easily replace that with a buncha people prob.

pulsar - i dont really get the sudden push on pulsar given she hasn't been much of a vote convo this whole game. wouldn't be surprised if they came up scum but i dont get where the push is coming from.
tommy - i think you are mafia. i think giving a member of maf the neighborizer is quite the idea that cel would come up under pressure. i think in my brain right now this makes sense. if your response is "i dont bus teammates" fair i dont know how to connect the bluedoom stuff but like. im sick. i just think you're scum sorry.
flandrs - i shouldve written these top down bc i think you have a much higher chance of flipping maf than psy but like, not more than a coinflip. you're like dbd in my brain, you're acting exactly like i'd expect you to. but like you actually get involved in things and dbd is just kinda commentating. does that make sense
pebble - i read you as towny mostly because you keep asking questions. but maybe your scumchat's just not helping you. i wouldnt be surprised if you flip scum tho i dont read you as scum
dbd - i feel bad abt linking to saber lol, unfortunate. you strike me as town this feels like average dbd to me idk. you're like the loudest spectator.
airc - with all due respect i feel like they havent made an impact on this game that ive perceived. i got to this slot and my first thought was to write "they're in this game?" and leave it at that. but i probably should write something. why hasn't this slot done anything i remember?
des - maybe its the health but i am pretty strongly scum des rn. i dunno. this isnt the des im used to i feel like and its gotta mean something that more than just one person is thinking des is scum given that des is given a vibe clear every other game
phoopes - is it omgus to say i kinda scumread them bc they tried to push me and then wandered off from it when nobody bit? its probably omgus but i feel like you've been contributative but not pushing the game along? i dunno. does mafia empowerer or whatever you are even make sense? all these fucking roles are so complicated
genisu - townread. they're playing very much like they did last game to me. id be less surprised than psy if they're scum but like i dont see the angle here
bliz - doesnt play as strong as id expect someone with as big of an offsite resume as they supposedly have. adapting to smogon i guess. could be struggling as either alignment but i feel like being isolated as town leads towards that struggling more
psy - if psy is mafia it would take a large shift of gamestate for me to start suspecting them. like if there's a maf in the neighborhood they're my last guess by a significant margin. did yall figure out why psy's in neighborhood?
saber - IC, cleared
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whats phoopes claim again, maybe them and dbd are just wrong town
 
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