NOC Working Title Mafia (Game Thread) [Mafia Wins]

Why tf would mafia me bother trying to set you up instead of just killing you outright. If I was mafia I could just kill you and then talk nonsense really loudly with the likelihood of someone checking me a lot lower. Zzz

Or i could’ve just…killed one of my other top townreads??? Let’s be honest it’s hard to see the reasoning with the Alice kill which you’d think it would mean less likely to be me (if you agree with the theory that I’m more likely to be the “puppet master” of the mafia or smth)

i mean... there is a JK so I assume you wouldn't shoot one of your tippy top town reads to dodge protection! I could believe that you would expect protection on Lechen, HyHy, or maybe in a stretch universe on me. The question is why Alice died then when most people POE'd her on some level. You are one of the only ones that even had her as a moderate TR.
 
It is just way more likely that the mafia is lost in space than it is that I somehow orchestrated the kill to set up a Joey vs m2h misvote. That’s just really silly because again, I could so easily just park my vote on someone who probably won’t push back on me very hard.
 
It is just way more likely that the mafia is lost in space than it is that I somehow orchestrated the kill to set up a Joey vs m2h misvote. That’s just really silly because again, I could so easily just park my vote on someone who probably won’t push back on me very hard.

but then you also came in the day pushing me and joey!
 
Maybe flandrs, maybe pulsar, maybe catfries yeah. Honestly I haven't thought about it a ton.

I see two scenarios here:

1) Jalmont carried out the strategy you mentioned in your posts to redirect attention to Joey/you.

2) Joey didn't care at all about what people would think and killed Alice to get her out of the way, being the most obvious choice. Even using this as an argument to defend himself.

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My conclusion here, and I would like to have your opinion and that of everyone who can because we don't know who will be alive tomorrow, is that:

If Jalmont really planned that strategy, he has quite capable partners who, in my opinion, must have helped him plan it. I don't think Jalmont thought of all that alone and even made the decision to do it. I also don't see catfries as someone he could consult about it either...

On the other hand, if it's Joey who didn't care at all about what the town thinks, then I think he might be paired with people who don't have much experience or who are being a bit lazy/absent. Because in theory, he would be burning himself if he goes so directly for Alice.
 
Good morning
##vote JALMONT
Following M2H cuz i expect locks onto joey if vote negator is in play currently. Will lock on someone when I get to work to read more (my shift was an hour earlier than i thought it was so sorry yall)
 
I mean honestly I don’t even really think flipping Joey is really all that great, the evidence that the mafia is on mars drawing names from a hat is decent and thus we probably need to flip the abundant nulls we have. I think it’s way more likely that mafia has little to no influence than it is they engineered the last vote out
 
If we took a poll of the game, most people would choose to NK you over Alice so that’s not exactly a smoking gun.

whatever I mean your vote is locked so this convo is not exactly super fruitful

It's possible I'm wrong but if you and joey are town honestly I got nothing man! I can't think of any teams that wouldn't have at least one of you two.

Unless you want to try selling the thread on team ML bait like maybe like cat pulsar flandrs/des or something wacky like that.
 
I mean honestly I don’t even really think flipping Joey is really all that great, the evidence that the mafia is on mars drawing names from a hat is decent and thus we probably need to flip the abundant nulls we have. I think it’s way more likely that mafia has little to no influence than it is they engineered the last vote out

If he flips as mafia and said this, it's really very confusing. I'm going to put my vote on Jalmont to try to cover some kind of play where a vote is denied and we could end in a weird tie.

I'm going to lock it in 10 minutes, I don't think I have much more time to hesitate. But if someone who hasn't locked their vote yet, apart from Jalmont, is willing to lock on Joey, I honestly have more suspicions there and would join with my lock.

##vote Jalmont
 
Votecount 2.8: 15 minutes remain

Jalmont (9): M2H, Lechen, des121, Redless, Catfries, ElectricityCat
Joey (4): saber, HydrogenHydreigon
Catfries (2): pulsar512b
Redless (2): joey, JALMONT
Pulsar512b (1): Flandrs
 
If he flips as mafia and said this, it's really very confusing. I'm going to put my vote on Jalmont to try to cover some kind of play where a vote is denied and we could end in a weird tie.

I'm going to lock it in 10 minutes, I don't think I have much more time to hesitate. But if someone who hasn't locked their vote yet, apart from Jalmont, is willing to lock on Joey, I honestly have more suspicions there and would join with my lock.

##vote Jalmont

It would be better to go ahead and vote joey if you scum read him more, a vote negator would only ever tie the vote in which case it randomizes.
 
I mean I don't really want to lock in on joey but I can't use a swap to anyone else

I wasn't very good this game, I probably need to take a break until I can calm my stomach down and stop feeling ill every other day.
 
It would be better to go ahead and vote joey if you scum read him more, a vote negator would only ever tie the vote in which case it randomizes.


Jalmont (8): M2H, Lechen, des121, Redless, Catfries, (any of them negated)
Joey (6): saber, HydrogenHydreigon Ecat (any of them possibly negated)
Catfries (2): pulsar512b
Redless (2): joey, JALMONT
Pulsar512b (1): Flandrs

This would be the scenario if I change and lock into Joey, Flanders voting redless is pretty random, What if Joey/Jalmont + Flanders/Catfries changes their vote last minute and we end in a weird tie / manipulation?
 
Jalmont (8): M2H, Lechen, des121, Redless, Catfries, (any of them negated)
Joey (6): saber, HydrogenHydreigon Ecat (any of them possibly negated)
Catfries (2): pulsar512b
Redless (2): joey, JALMONT
Pulsar512b (1): Flandrs

This would be the scenario if I change and lock into Joey, Flanders voting redless is pretty random, What if Joey/Jalmont + Flanders/Catfries changes their vote last minute and we end in a weird tie / manipulation?

If a tie between joey and jalmont happens, it would just RNG between jalmont and joey. It would be better for you if you want joey out to vote joey. If it ties it's 50/50 between your preferred vote and jalmont. If you vote jalmont, jalmont is just gonna be the lynch here.
 
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