Wrath of The Kingdra

[Perkele]

So, in my mind have been mugging since my Rain Dance team that i want team based on Kingdra. I have thinked this a lot and it's working freaking well! WARNING: I have bad english but try to understand. :) But anyway, here comes the Team!

At a Glance:

Changes are in red.

Metagross @ Occa Berry ** Örr
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 230 HP / 252 Atk / 12 Def / 14 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Explosion
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Stealth Rock is quite a important to this team, so i suggested to run Metagross. I know that Metagross isn't the best lead to set-up SR, but i dont like suicide leads and Metagross is very good on mid and late game. It cans revenge kill with BP, b00m those walls and take in Trick. And btw, two Bullet Punch are quite suprising. ;)

Item: Occa Berry, i dont know what i could say about this... It protects SR set-ups against leads which have Fire moves.

EV's: 14 Spd is to outspeed other Metagross, 252 Atk to power and Def&HP EV's to take damage.

Threat List:
Azelf - SR is the best option. I can set up Rocks or if it's Taunt variation i can hit with BP when they are uppin Rock and switch to Snorlax, who can wall it and switch Gengar to take b00m
Aerodactyl - BP or SR if opponent is going to switch.
Metagross - With 24 Spe EV's i can outseepd normal Metagross leads and 2HKO with Earthquake. But normally after 1. EQ i set up Rock because opponent is maybe switching Ground-resist in.
Trickers dont get anything because they have to switch or let me 2HKO with EQ or switch Gengar to take explosion.
Jirachi - EQ against Trickers(read about lead Metagross^^). Scarf is only helpful to my Metagross. To Fire Punch i laugh and 2HKO.
Heatran - Normalle very easy threat. I can set up Rocks, Wall with Snorlax and take Explosion with Gengar. Heatran wont OHKO Snorlax with Explosion.
Infernape - EQ lets 1 HP to Nape (focus sash), i can easily take Fire Punch with Occa Berry and finish with BP. Simple.
Empoleon - I set up rocks, Hydro Pump doesn't OHKO and wall with Snorlax, which can take it out with EQ.
Dragonite - Set Up Rock and wall with Snorlax. Dragonite lose a lot from switching to Stealth rocks.
Swampert - Fuu, Swampert is so annoying! Anyway, i can set up and wall with Snorlax.
Smeargle - Snorlax takes Spore and Metagross 2HKO with BP.
Bronzong - This too quite a difficult. First SR, then boom and finish with Scizors Pursuit.

Scizor @ Choice Band ** Schizophrenic
Trait: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- U-turn
- Pursuit
- Superpower
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CB Scizor, everybody knows this...
This gives big help to Metagross counting many leads like Bronzong and Hippowdon. Pursuit can take out few Kingdras counters away. I can scout opponents team finding out if there are Kingdra's threats. And ofc revenge killing <3 Scizor is one of the Best Revenge Killers and it can make a way to Kingdra.

Zapdos @ Leftovers ** Örr^2
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 224 Def / 32 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Roost
- Thunderbolt
- Toxic
- Substitute Roar
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I needed a Physical wall against physical sweepers like Scizor and Lucario. Zapdos is grat pokemon to switch in Def based Bulky Grounds like Electivire and Tyranitar. With Toxic i can stall out annoying threats. When Predicting switch i can heal with Roost. Roar can take off those DD, SD etc. boosters and Substitute users.

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
Nature: Bold (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
- Surf
- HP Electric
- Wish
- Protect
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This set was Nosferaltos idea and all honor to him!
This set helps me to counter MixApe which is a big problem to my team. It make sure too that Gyarados wont be a problem. Vaporeon can also heal my team with Wish. It's big help example to Scizor who has a big role countering pokemons on my team but it lacks own healing way.

Gengar @ Choice Scarf ** Shadow Assassin
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
TimidModest Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- HP Ice
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Trick

Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers ** Living Wall
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 144 HP / 176 Atk / 44 Def / 144 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Earthquake
- Sleep Talk
- Rest
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Very important Special Wall and Status Absorber. With Rest Talk i can Absorb Toxic and other Status problems. 176 Atk EV's makes it very powerful. And last but not least this Snorlac counts almos all Salamence variants, especially when SR is in game.

Lets think situation when Snorlacswitch in DD Mences DD. Snorlax can easily take all other moves than Outrage but this time Mence didnt use outrage. Salamence loses <25% HP from Body Slam and i hope so it go paralyzed. If Salamence paralyzed i celebrate. He faints to Next Body Slam or when he switch in again in Stealth Rocks.
If opponent chooses Outrage then Scizor can switch in and finish with BP.

Mix/SpecsMence can't take Snorlax down and Snorlax can hit hard with Body Slam. And MixMence takes LO damage also.

Kingdra @ Chesto Berry ** Majesty
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 HP / 144 Atk / 112 176 HP / 252 Atk / 80 Spe
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Rest
- Outrage
- Waterfall
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Whole teams sole and star of the show. Idea is keeping Kingdra hide to Late Game when it can switch in, set up easy DD and sweep away rest of opponents pokemons.

You may think: "Chesto Berry, wtf?" I know thats interesting but it has 4 good reasons: 1) Status haxorz, i laugh to them when i restheal myself. 2) Extra DD to all pokemons who wont 2HKO me. Sleep heal, any1? 3) Toxic Spikes cant take this devil out. 4) Gives a survive chance to priority revenge killers, example Scizor.

EV'sWith 244 Spe EV's i outspeed Timid Starmie after one DD. Extra Bulky helps me get another DD. Most important is switch this thing in on a right time. 252 Atk to maxinium power and 176 HP to take damage and getting more DDs.

Moves: Moves are not suprising. Waterfall is powerful STAB and it has chance of flinch. Outrage is the one of the strongest moves and it tottaly crush opponent team in the end.

Threat List i dont have but i here is maybe the Biggest threat:
Electivire - Electivire is a very big problem to me if he gets Motor Drive boost. Because of that i always use first with Zapdos Toxic so he can't get boost and i can Stall him off.
Lucario - After Gengar is gone Lucario can run through my team. Then I hope that i can pressure stall him out.

Give me some comments and rates. This is my first team which i posted here. And sorry about bad english. :)

 

[Lord Blood]

Since you are lacking Spikes, I would recommend you change Roar to Substitute and go for a nice Substitute Toxic Stall. It'll help against SkarmBliss because you can kill Skarmory with Thunderbolt and Pressure stall Blissey.

For one thing, there's really nothing that would set up in the face of Thunderbolt + Toxic as nothing is immune to both of them. Lucario gets owned by Thunderbolt, Scizor gets hit hard with T-bolt, Suicune lulz Toxic and T-bolt then Pressure stall, Salamence would never even set up and Gyarados = Zapped. So with Sub you can Pressure Stall so much easier.

Good Luck.

~ LB ~​

 

[Aircraft Cemetery]

I like your Kingdra set, Chesto Rest is a really original as well as surprising idea. But although the surprise factor is an advantage I think Leftovers or Lum Berry would be better options to sweep effectively.
On your Gengar I would really suggest more Speed. You said you want to outrun Naughty Salamence but nowadays most DD salamence are +Spe natured anyway and will easily kill you.You should at least run 494 Speed to get a jump at all scarfed and +1 positive natured base 100s. So you will have to run Timid anyway and as any defensive EVs don't make sense on gengar at all, just go for Timid max Speed.
On your Zapdos you shouldn't use those moves. You could use Substitute over Roar to more effectively toxic stall with it, but then one would usually want to run more speed and a more Special defensively oriented EV spread and this wouldn't be the best option for you as you need a phazer and a Physical tank. Therefore I would replace Toxic with Hidden Power Grass/Ice and keep your EV spread.
On Metagross I think the Speed EVs are wasted, I'd move most of them to HP. Also I prefer Meteor Mash over Earthquake but if you want to have a chance against LeadNape, stay with EQ.
Snorlax and Scizor are fine.

Hope I could help you. Have fun with your team.

 

[Perkele]

Thanks for a rate Lord Blood and LFC Rulez! :)

Since you are lacking Spikes, I would recommend you change Roar to Substitute and go for a nice Substitute Toxic Stall. It'll help against SkarmBliss because you can kill Skarmory with Thunderbolt and Pressure stall Blissey.

For one thing, there's really nothing that would set up in the face of Thunderbolt + Toxic as nothing is immune to both of them. Lucario gets owned by Thunderbolt, Scizor gets hit hard with T-bolt, Suicune lulz Toxic and T-bolt then Pressure stall, Salamence would never even set up and Gyarados = Zapped. So with Sub you can Pressure Stall so much easier.

This sounds good. Set uppers wont be a problem with this set too. Blissey, which one is annoying for my team can make useless with and other Subbers can be pressure stalled.
I'll test this set!

On Metagross I think the Speed EVs are wasted, I'd move most of them to HP. Also I prefer Meteor Mash over Earthquake but if you want to have a chance against LeadNape, stay with EQ.

Okay, EV's maybe are a bit wasted but it counts Leadgross out very well. Meteor Mash or Earthquake. Difficult decision... EQ gives me chance to take away Jirachi, Metagross, Heatran and Infernape. Thats why i already chosed EQ. I think Meteor Mash isn't as useful than EQ.

On your Zapdos you shouldn't use those moves. You could use Substitute over Roar to more effectively toxic stall with it, but then one would usually want to run more speed and a more Special defensively oriented EV spread and this wouldn't be the best option for you as you need a phazer and a Physical tank. Therefore I would replace Toxic with Hidden Power Grass/Ice and keep your EV spread.

Hmm... Two different option. Sub over Roar i'll already test but i dont see a sense on HP Grass/Ice. Gliscor and other Grounds i can take off with Gengar and Snorlax.

On your Gengar I would really suggest more Speed. You said you want to outrun Naughty Salamence but nowadays most DD salamence are +Spe natured anyway and will easily kill you.You should at least run 494 Speed to get a jump at all scarfed and +1 positive natured base 100s. So you will have to run Timid anyway and as any defensive EVs don't make sense on gengar at all, just go for Timid max Speed.

Okay, this sounds good too. I'll test it too!

I like your Kingdra set, Chesto Rest is a really original as well as surprising idea. But although the surprise factor is an advantage I think Leftovers or Lum Berry would be better options to sweep effectively.

Lum Berry has one big problem. If some one use Status-move before Rest Heal I lose my chance to Heal myself and it gives me a problem. And those status problems i can heal with sleep.
Leftovers are a big question mark to me. Theres no sense.

 

[Aircraft Cemetery]

Okay just one quick reply.
As I already said EQ is also okay on Lead Gross so you're free to keep it. But 12 or 14 EVs in Spe will suffice to outrun other Meta Leads.
Zapdos: I absolutely agree with you and Lord Blood that sub over roar is very good (in fact my fav zappy set) and zapdos will deal with Skarm and Bliss, true. But I thought you needed Zappy to be a physical tank and not a stallbreaker. For the Physical tank you won't want to use toxic because it's useless against many physical sweepers. Also your team doesn't have a phazer, which can really hurt in some cases and even cost you a game. If you don't like HP you can use Heat Wave or just keep your set (HP Grass can ohko Swampert and none of your other team members can even 2hko it). I just think the Toxic staller doesn't fit in your team as it can't ohko/phaze SD lucario for example, who can run through your team if gengar has been pursuited before.
Kingdra: okay my mistake. I forgot to imply other moves with the other items, which would be Yawn or Sub over rest. Also I didn't say you should change your set, I just said that I prefer the other set. Yours is also good and quite cool indeed.

overall solid team now. good luck

 

[Perkele]

But 12 or 14 EVs in Spe will suffice to outrun other Meta Leads.

Okay, i'll change it.

Zapdos: I absolutely agree with you and Lord Blood that sub over roar is very good (in fact my fav zappy set) and zapdos will deal with Skarm and Bliss, true. But I thought you needed Zappy to be a physical tank and not a stallbreaker. For the Physical tank you won't want to use toxic because it's useless against many physical sweepers. Also your team doesn't have a phazer, which can really hurt in some cases and even cost you a game. If you don't like HP you can use Heat Wave or just keep your set (HP Grass can ohko Swampert and none of your other team members can even 2hko it). I just think the Toxic staller doesn't fit in your team as it can't ohko/phaze SD lucario for example, who can run through your team if gengar has been pursuited before.

HP Grass would be good to take Swampert down. You're right that Lucario is a big threat to me and because of that Heat Wave sounds good too. Again difficult decision. But I'll test both of them and I make my decision.

 

[Nosferalto]

Hi Mambo. I got your PM; I'll see what I can do.

By looking at your team, I can see that it seems to be Gyarados weak as well as Infernape weak. MixApe outpseeds your whole team (except for Gengar that only manages to 2HKO with Shadow Ball) and can OHKO/2HKO everyone of them with ease. It gets some opportunities to switch-in like Gengar locked into HP Ice, Scizor's Bullet Punch and Pursuit and Snorlax' Rest. If it manage to switch-in safely it will without any doubt do a lot of harm. While MixApe is currently one of your biggest issues, Gyarados is also dangerous to this team. Gengar can revenge kill with Thunderbolt for sure, but I must warn you that the number 1 and 2 used Pokemons in the OU metagame, Tyranitar and Scizor can Pursuit Gengar with ease, leaving you without a DD Gyarados check. It is also equipped with a Choice Scarf which makes it even more Pursuit bait and it doesn't hit hard especially with that Timid Nature. I suggest you try a Vaporeon instead of Gengar for numerous reasons:

Vaporeon @ Leftovers | Bold | Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Surf | Roar / HP Electric | Wish | Protect

This change won't compromise your team's ability to deal with threats, it will in fact improve it. Your Scarf Gengar used to check: DD Salamence, DD Gyarados and SD Lucario, but it was rather risky because of the Pursuit weakness. Salamence was already covered by your CB Scizor. Vaporeon can also take an Outrage and roar it out, obliging it to take SR damage once again next time it switches in. DD Gyarados is also countered, a lot better than ever before without taking any risks. SD Lucario was also pretty much countered with ease by using Zapdos that isn't even 2HKOed by a +2 Extreme Speed after SR. To put it bluntly, Gengar was extremely useless because everything it checks is already covered by the team. Vaporeon solves your MixApe weakness, making it even more inviting. Your team is extremely bulky which means that it will benefit a lot from Wish support in order to keep your Pokemons healthy. Scizor for example, is your counter to many threats like Latias and Tyranitar, but it lacks a recovery move on this set, Wish support insures it will survive longer making your team a lot more safe against those.

I am rather surprised you listed Electivire as a threat to this team because it is extremely uncommon and most players that uses it is mostly inexperienced so you won't have much trouble beating it. Anyway, if it is such a threat, you could try Quick Attack on Scizor in order to revenge kill it but I doubt it is such a problem.

Finally, on Kingdra you need more Speed EVs to make your set more effective. Use 144 HP / 252 Atk / 112 Spe or 252 HP / 144 Atk / 112 Spe depending on how much you want your Kigndra to be bulky. The Speed EVs are important because they allow you to outspeed certain things like Jolly max Speed Tyranitar before a DD and max Speed Timid Latias, Gengar and Infernape after a DD.

 

[Perkele]

Thank's a lot for rate Nosferalto, it really helped!

I dont have face a lot MixApe yet, but like you said it's big problem to me. And you are right when you said that Gengar is very easy to counter with Scizors or TTars Pursuit.

Gyarados haven't yet been problem. I have so many ways to take it down, espicially when I have Rocks on play.

Vaporeon sounds pretty nice, especially Wish healing. Vaporeon checks almost so good than Gengar and STAB Surf will bring me more type coverage. It make sure that Gyarados wont be a problem too. I'll change Vaporeon over Gengar.

I'll change Kingdras EV's to 252 HP / 144 Atk / 112 Spe Because I think power is more important than bulky. ;)