Other XY OU Pokemon of the Week #9: Donphan (April Fools!)

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Donphan @Leftovers/Liechi berry/Salac Berry
Custap berry Endeavor leggo
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Dammit trollfreak
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Speed(lol) - 252 Atk / 252 Speed (If salac)
Adamant
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Head Smash/Stone Edge/Ice Shard/Endeavor/Seed Bomb
- Rapid Spin

While forretress is a defensive behemoth and excadrill is an offensive behemoth,Donphan is a mixed bag Having high defenses and offenses,It can't live all match like forretress,It can live through many attacks excadrill can't survive (Close combat terrakion,Earth quake Opposite excadrill and almost any attack when sturdy isn't broken) and okho back with the respective move , On into the set , Lichie Berry allow you to deal much more damage once gone to sturdy(Provided you predict or go first) , Leftovers only works if you're using the bulky spread and is well known, Salac allow it to hit with an attack most times ,SR + rapid spin are self explonatory, EQ is a must for that 150 power attack which have amazing coverage,Finally a coverage move of your choice: Head smash have good type synergy with EQ and deal HUGE damage to most pokemon who resist EQ,Stone edge is an alternative with no recoil and Much less power,Ice shard has priority and hits many targets effectively,Endeavor is good if you predict a sturdy downing (Dam i miss SR first round and Custap Endeavor second round days) but it's pretty sitautional at best,Finally seed bomb hits rotom-w and waters harder than head smash but is only good if you predict.


Donphan Weakness policy (I didn't make this set)
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 Attack / 252 Speed
Ivs(If you're using endeavor then have 0/31 Atk /0/0/0/31 Speed otherwise 31/31/31/31/31/31)
Adamant/Jolly
- Rock polish
- Earthquake
- Stone edge
- Seed Bomb/Head Smash/Ice Shard/Endeavor

Donphan is the only sturdy pokemon who can function well with a weakness policy since it has a boosting move in rock polish , EQ is self explonatory,Stone edge gains good coverage with EQ,fourth move is up to you,Seed bomb hits waters hard,Head smash is a last ditch effort when you can't ohko a pokemon with Stone edge(and can't hit it with EQ),Ice shard hits 4x weak pokemon much stronger and finish weakened priority pokes except for e-speed luke and e-speed nite,Endeavor is also like headsmash a last ditch effort,It makes every target at one Hp ONE HP, although donphan will be koed after the attack most likely.
 
It's a shame we haven't discussed Donphan's best set yet:

Lol I Uberz (Donphan) @ Stick
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
Jolly Nature
IVs: 6 Def / 22 SDef / 21 Spd / 29 SAtk / 23 HP / 16 Atk
- Mud-Slap
- Attract
- Block
- Hyper Beam

This Donphan set is made to wall strong physical sweepers like Stunky, Smeargle and Frillish while also taking them out with strong attacks. Mud-slap is used as Donphan's main STAB attack and does alot of damage to walls like a lvl 34 Heatran while also severly damaging sweepers and possibly even killing them. Attract is used to sometimes immobilize victims of Donphan's sinister techniques and make Donphan even more difficult to take out ( just kidding a hero like Donphan will never die ). Block is used as a third move to trap pokemon Donphan wants to kill. In the last slot goes hyoer beam because every 6 year old knows hyper beam is the best move in the game and everything with hyper beam is awesome. Stick is Donphan's item of choice as Donphan looks really cool while holding a stick and Donphan is too cool to hold any other item.

The EV's allow Donphan to outspeed choice scarf Munhclax which used to be the best pokemon in RU. The other EV's are put in special attack to make Donpahn's mud-slap and hyper beam even stronger although the EV's could be put into another stat because Donphan is already strong. Jolly nature is the prefered nature is Donphan is a happy elephant but naughty nature can be used if you are feeling mean. The IV's are there because they look nice and nothing else.

You might be thinking this set is overpowered and nothing can counter it, and well you are right. Only one pokemon in existence can reliably counter this set: lvl 73 Spewpa. Spewpa can take any hit from Donphan because of it's sky high base 60 defense and 35 hit KO Donphan back with tackle.

This is a seriously great Donphan set and should never be overlooked when making a team.
 
Snotjoch said:
It's a shame we haven't discussed Donphan's best set yet:

Lol I Uberz (Donphan) @ Stick
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
Jolly Nature
IVs: 6 Def / 22 SDef / 21 Spd / 29 SAtk / 23 HP / 16 Atk
- Mud-Slap
- Attract
- Block
- Hyper Beam

This Donphan set is made to wall strong physical sweepers like Stunky, Smeargle and Frillish while also taking them out with strong attacks. Mud-slap is used as Donphan's main STAB attack and does alot of damage to walls like a lvl 34 Heatran while also severly damaging sweepers and possibly even killing them. Attract is used to sometimes immobilize victims of Donphan's sinister techniques and make Donphan even more difficult to take out ( just kidding a hero like Donphan will never die ). Block is used as a third move to trap pokemon Donphan wants to kill. In the last slot goes hyoer beam because every 6 year old knows hyper beam is the best move in the game and everything with hyper beam is awesome. Stick is Donphan's item of choice as Donphan looks really cool while holding a stick and Donphan is too cool to hold any other item.

The EV's allow Donphan to outspeed choice scarf Munhclax which used to be the best pokemon in RU. The other EV's are put in special attack to make Donpahn's mud-slap and hyper beam even stronger although the EV's could be put into another stat because Donphan is already strong. Jolly nature is the prefered nature is Donphan is a happy elephant but naughty nature can be used if you are feeling mean. The IV's are there because they look nice and nothing else.

You might be thinking this set is overpowered and nothing cna counter, and well you are right. Only one pokemon in existence can reliably counter this set: lvl 73 Spewpa. Spewpa can take any hit from Donphan because of it's sky high base 60 defense and 35 hit KO Donphan back with tackle.

This is a seriously great Donphan set and should never be overlooked when making a team.
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This ain't lc -.- Also That set is completely destroyed BY ANY non lc pokemon , Is this thread for trolling?

Also Spore Water spout smeargle laugh at you
 
Egyptian said:
This ain't lc -.- Also That set is completely destroyed BY ANY non lc pokemon , Is this thread for trolling?

Also Spore Water spout smeargle laugh at you
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A serious pokemon like Donphan has no need for trolling. ( And yes it is trolling because Donphan isn't viable in OU )
 
Donphan is VIABLE in ou , It has a nieche or two,Look at the set i posted, I did read all Donphan analyses and Didn't get any things that donphan is poor,It is a very underrated pokemon Imo - Trolling a pokemon is a VERY good way to increase posts
 
Egyptian said:
Donphan is VIABLE in ou , It has a nieche or two,Look at the set i posted, I did read all Donphan analyses and Didn't get any things that donphan is poor,It is a very underrated pokemon Imo - Trolling a pokemon is a VERY good way to increase posts
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I actually thought the sets you posted is a troll, no offense.

Edit: APRIL FOOLS!!1!1
 
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Egyptian said:
Donphan is VIABLE in ou , It has a nieche or two,Look at the set i posted, I did read all Donphan analyses and Didn't get any things that donphan is poor,It is a very underrated pokemon Imo - Trolling a pokemon is a VERY good way to increase posts
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Donphan's only small niche is in sun teams which are getting less common and even then Shiftry learns defog so you don't need Donphan anymore. Stealth rocks are also not as important on sun teams because weather teams can't waste time trying to get up hazards because sun turns are limited.
 
252+ SpA Aegislash-Blade Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Donphan: 160-190 (41.6 - 49.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

0 Atk Donphan Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Blade: 438-516 (135.1 - 159.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO


252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Donphan: 162-192 (42.1 - 50%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO

0 Atk Donphan Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard X: 230-272 (77.1 - 91.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Donphan in Sun: 313-370 (81.5 - 96.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

0 Atk Donphan Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard Y: 412-488 (138.2 - 163.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO


+2 252 Atk Aerilate Mega Pinsir Return vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Donphan: 313-370 (81.5 - 96.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

0 Atk Donphan Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Pinsir: 292-344 (107.3 - 126.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO


252 SpA Life Orb Thundurus Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Donphan: 166-198 (43.2 - 51.5%) -- 6.6% chance to 2HKO

0 Atk Donphan Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Thundurus: 226-266 (75.3 - 88.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Donphan: 150-177 (39 - 46%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

0 Atk Donphan Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 448-528 (150.3 - 177.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO


+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Donphan: 278-329 (72.3 - 85.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

0 Atk Donphan Earthquake vs. 32 HP / 0 Def Bisharp: 254-300 (91 - 107.5%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO


+1 252+ Atk Mega Tyranitar Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Donphan: 162-192 (42.1 - 50%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO

0 Atk Donphan Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Tyranitar: 180-212 (44.5 - 52.4%) -- 20.7% chance to 2HKO


Honestly, Donphan is so incredibly bad, just look at this, he can hardly check crap mons like that, anything good just walks all over him how can anyone even get to the idea to use garbage like that... I realy dont get it, I mean he is obviously the worst mon ever to exist. And to make it even worse he is completely outclassed by Excadrill who just laughs about all these crap mons as they cant touch him at all.
 
Baharoth said:
252+ SpA Aegislash-Blade Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Donphan: 160-190 (41.6 - 49.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

0 Atk Donphan Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Blade: 438-516 (135.1 - 159.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO


252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Donphan: 162-192 (42.1 - 50%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO

0 Atk Donphan Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard X: 230-272 (77.1 - 91.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Donphan in Sun: 313-370 (81.5 - 96.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

0 Atk Donphan Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard Y: 412-488 (138.2 - 163.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO


+2 252 Atk Aerilate Mega Pinsir Return vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Donphan: 313-370 (81.5 - 96.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

0 Atk Donphan Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Pinsir: 292-344 (107.3 - 126.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO


252 SpA Life Orb Thundurus Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Donphan: 166-198 (43.2 - 51.5%) -- 6.6% chance to 2HKO

0 Atk Donphan Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Thundurus: 226-266 (75.3 - 88.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Donphan: 150-177 (39 - 46%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

0 Atk Donphan Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 448-528 (150.3 - 177.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO


+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Donphan: 278-329 (72.3 - 85.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

0 Atk Donphan Earthquake vs. 32 HP / 0 Def Bisharp: 254-300 (91 - 107.5%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO


+1 252+ Atk Mega Tyranitar Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Donphan: 162-192 (42.1 - 50%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO

0 Atk Donphan Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Tyranitar: 180-212 (44.5 - 52.4%) -- 20.7% chance to 2HKO


Honestly, Donphan is so incredibly bad, just look at this, he can hardly check crap mons like that, anything good just walks all over him how can anyone even get to the idea to use garbage like that... I realy dont get it, I mean he is obviously the worst mon ever to exist. And to make it even worse he is completely outclassed by Excadrill who just laughs about all these crap mons as they cant touch him at all.
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Too bad this thing doesn't exist.
 
Yeah thats just another reason not to use Donphan, Hippo is almost as bad as he is, I mean its not even OU, that says everything about how much those 2 suck. At least Hippo cant use Rapid Spin so nobody gets the stupid idea to use that awfull move on him. Unlike Donphan who seems to always waste a moveslot for that crap.
 
Baharoth said:
Yeah thats just another reason not to use Donphan, Hippo is almost as bad as he is, I mean its not even OU, that says everything about how much those 2 suck. At least Hippo cant use Rapid Spin so nobody gets the stupid idea to use that awfull move on him. Unlike Donphan who seems to always waste a moveslot for that crap.
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Hippo is a great physical wall with reliable recovery, a phazing move and a not too shabby attack. It's special defense is kind of meh but it doesn't really need it as a physical wall. Hippowdon and Donphan have similarities but Hippowdon is muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch better a a physical wall and doesn't waste a team slot just to spin and put down rocks.
 
I can't believe no one has brought up that Donphan learns Scary Face.

Donphan @ Spooky Plate
Serious, 252 Atk/4def/252spe
Sturdy
-Scary Face
-Bulldoze
-Rock Tomb
-Headbutt

Scary Face is the core of the set, as Donphan shows it's terrifying presence to stop OU's top sweepers in their tracks. Bulldoze and Rock Tomb offer STAB and great coverage respectively, whilst also lowering speed in case the opponent is foolish enough to taunt this powerful pachyderm. Headbutt rounds out the set by capitalizing on the opponent's low speed to flinch just like the uber Shaymin-S.

I would use Jolly, but Donphan is incapable of laughter, only sheer terror. Spooky Plate increases the fear factor by 1.2X

This set really appreciates Sticky Web support, as It means Donphan doesn't have to waste time scaring the opponent when it is already terrifying.
 
I used a Specs Donphan set similar to the one Hail Magikarp mentioned a while back. It's definitely powerful, but I had problems whenever my opponent used specially offensive Blissey. Overall I feel like it's a solid contender but doesn't outperform its main Spinshard set.
 
Donphan @ Assault Vest
EVs: 85 HP/85 Def/65 Atk/85 SpDef/85 SpAtk/85 Spe
SERIOUS (because using Donpahn is SERIOUS BUSINESS)
Gender: Female
Ability: Sand Veil
Level: 69
-Charm
-Captivate
-Attract
-Sleep Talk

Whenever you customize your Donphan with this particular set, it unlocks Donphan's secret weapon - Struggle. Coincidentally, this move exactly reflects its position in the metagame, where it struggles to be any kind of useful! However when Struggle is equipped by Donphan, it no longer becomes mediocre and truly shines its capabilities. With an attack stat that rivals the almighty Arceus and a move that gives it perfect neutral coverage, Donphan achieves what no other pokemon can - having a 120 attack stat just like Arceus, and neutral coverage in one move. Amazing! The EV spread is utilized to make Donphan an all-rounded pokemon, as all of the 510 EVs are put equally into each stat, allowing Donphan to take multiple roles on its own, whether it be a physical wall, special wall, status inflictor, wallbreaker, revenge killer, setup sweeper, death inducer, sleep absorber, status absorber, setup fodder, death fodder or even Dora the Explorer. Thanks to its typing, it cannot be paralyzed making it an excellent sweeper - not even Prankster T-wave from Thundurus can stop Donphan. Its ability allow it to setup under Sandstorm thanks to the evasion, however, as you can tell from the set, Donphan doesn't even need to setup as it already has the attack stat of Arceus! However Donphan isn't without its weakness. Since Knock Off is dominating the metagame, you have beware of letting Donphan take one as it will rob Donphan's abiltiy of using Struggle temporarily, its only attacking move in this move. But worry not! As Donphan still has 4 moves to work with when the amazing Struggle time is over! Since most players are sexist and use male pokemon to battle, this female fatale can utilize her adorableness (and her suggestive level) to make her opponents fall in love with Charm, Captivate and Attract. If somehow your Donphan also falls in love with her opponent and attempts to sleep with the foe, you can order her to use Sleep Talk in order to remind her of her one-and-only goal - to strike her opponent with a Struggle when it is least expected. Once Donphan has attempted all her methods to attract her opponent to lower their defenses, her secret weapon - Struggle - will be unlocked again. While her opponent is completely immoblized by infatuation, Donphan will show her true colours...
 
I don't think you guys understand the true power of Donphan's single best set.

RealBasedGod (Donphan) @ Life Orb
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Odor Sleuth
- Last Resort

Let me explain to you fools why this set will skyrocket the phantastic Donphan (hue) straight to Ubers. You literally can never kill Donphan in one hit. Odor Sleuth is super duper important, so the RealBasedGod can smash Ghosts apart with the almighty Last Resort. Check out this ridiculous calc:

252+ Atk Life Orb Donphan (No Move) vs. -6 0 HP / 0- Def Sunkern: 48335-56865 (439409 - 516954.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

The best Physical wall in the game, Sunkern, gets obliterated. Plz ban to ubers.
(The calc doesn't even have Last Resort, that's how Stronk Donphan really is.)

So, once Donphan gets banned to Ubers, (it's gonna happen) this set won't be as effective anymore. So I propose an even stronger set, one that will make Donphan the first Pokemon to ever be banned from Ubers.

EvenRealerBasedGod (Donphan) @ BrightPowder
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Sandstorm
- Last Resort

Since you can't even OHKO Donphan in one hit, it will always be able to set up a Sandstorm. While you only have 5 turns once it's up, that's enough time for Donphan to sweep through your entire team. Sand Veil + BrightPowder means Donphan's redonk ninja reflexes come into effect, allowing him to dodge all of your pussy attacks. You can't even handle Last Resort when you can't hit this majestic beast.

Tl;dr: Elephant of Lame? More like ELEPHANT OF PAIN!
 
C'mon, you're missing the true bread and butter set of the majestic beast that is Donphan

Donphan
Brave Nature (I never met a Donphan that wasn't either completely Serious or incredibly Brave while taking down foe after foe)
Ability: Sand Veil/Sturdy (If you're a pussy and scared of attacks, but tbh, Donphan doesn't need his ability. Giving him Sand Veil with no sand support allows your opponent some hope at beating you)
252 HP/252 Atk/6 Def
Item: Metronome
Defense Curl
Rollout
Ice Shard
Rapid Spin/Earthquake/Play Rough/Giga Impact

Simple enough right? Defense Curl and keep Rollouting. Metronome will boost its power so high that even Arceus himself will need a diaper upon seeing Donphan as a foe. Ice Shard is for those times you really just want to go first or when you're up against those wussy dragon types.

The fourth move is filler essentially. Some people might not think their Donphan can survive so using Rapid Spin would "aid" Donphan's teammates. But in reality, you're just handicapping yourself to allow your opponent some time to prepare for the shitstorm that is the legendary Donphan Rollout sweep. Earthquake provides a nice stab attack and if you hit at just the right time your Pokemon episode might be banned from the anime. If you really hate dragons with all your heart, Play Rough is ideal for taking them down. I prefer though using Giga Impact. Giga Impact is an awesome sounding move that should be on every Pokemon ever...especially Blissey.

Let me prove to you the power of using Giga Impact on the fully evolved Pokemon with the lowest attack stat:
252+ Atk Blissey Giga Impact vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Deoxys-A: 307-363 (127.3 - 150.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

It can beat one of the most powerful ubers Pokemon ever. Now let me show you my man Donphan's might against it using the same move:
252+ Atk Donphan Giga Impact vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Deoxys-A: 587-691 (243.5 - 286.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

But then again, there's almost no time when you'd want to run Giga Impact over the might that is Defense Curl + Rollout. I would have done the calcs for it, but rollout is so strong that the calculator that I'm using flat out refuses to calculate with it because of how amazingly overpowered it is.
 
Snotjoch said:
Donphan's only small niche is in sun teams which are getting less common and even then Shiftry learns defog so you don't need Donphan anymore. Stealth rocks are also not as important on sun teams because weather teams can't waste time trying to get up hazards because sun turns are limited.
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How Sun teams spinning+SR is donphan only nieche , Explain
 
Egyptian said:
How Sun teams spinning+SR is donphan only nieche , Explain
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Because Excadrill does everything Donphan wants to do better. The only reason it was used was because it could be used as a spinner for Sun Teams last gen, specifically because it had enough bulk to take on things like Terrakion. But with the buff to Defog, you have literally no reason to use this thing. It's terrible, plain and simple.
 
The sets in the original post aren't bad, but after extensive testing, I've discovered Donphan's optimal build:

Dumbo on Ice (Donphan) @ Icicle Plate
Ability: Sturdy
85 HP/85 Atk/ 85 Def/85 SpA/85 SpD/85 Spe
Hardy, Docile, Serious, Bashful, or Quirky Nature
- Ice Shard
- Ice Shard
- Ice Shard
- Ice Shard

The EVs and nature allow for a well-rounded Pokemon, allowing Donphan to function as the foundation for a balanced team. Ice Shard in each moveslot prevents the ubiquitous Eviolite Wailmer from Pressure stalling. And let's be honest: Donphan's Ice Shard is borderline broken; there's no reason to run anything else.
 
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HollowRidley said:
Because Excadrill does everything Donphan wants to do better. The only reason it was used was because it could be used as a spinner for Sun Teams last gen, specifically because it had enough bulk to take on things like Terrakion. But with the buff to Defog, you have literally no reason to use this thing. It's terrible, plain and simple.
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THE FOOL WHO IGNORER DONPHAN TRUE POWER SHALL BE ONLITIRATED BY THE MIGHTY GIGA IMPACT!!!
 
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