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Alakazam @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Psychic
- Focus Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power Ice
252 SpA Plasmanta Sludge Wave vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Alakazam: 163-193 (64.9 - 76.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Psychic vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Plasmanta: 400-476 (152.6 - 181.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Psychic
- Focus Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power Ice
252 SpA Plasmanta Sludge Wave vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Alakazam: 163-193 (64.9 - 76.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Psychic vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Plasmanta: 400-476 (152.6 - 181.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Druddigon @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Outrage
- Sucker Punch
- Gunk Shot
- Fire Punch
252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Psychic vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Druddigon: 214-253 (59.7 - 70.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Druddigon Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Alakazam: 437-515 (174.1 - 205.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Cloyster @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Skill Link
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Shell Smash
- Icicle Spear
- Rock Blast
- Ice Shard
252+ Atk Life Orb Druddigon Outrage vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Cloyster: 136-161 (56.4 - 66.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Druddigon Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Cloyster: 61-73 (25.3 - 30.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
252 Atk Cloyster Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Druddigon: 370-450 (103.3 - 125.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Ability: Skill Link
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Shell Smash
- Icicle Spear
- Rock Blast
- Ice Shard
252+ Atk Life Orb Druddigon Outrage vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Cloyster: 136-161 (56.4 - 66.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Druddigon Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Cloyster: 61-73 (25.3 - 30.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
252 Atk Cloyster Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Druddigon: 370-450 (103.3 - 125.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Fifteen boosts on a dead man's chest!
Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum!
Drink and the devil - Unaware of the rest!
Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum!
Arghonaut @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 200 HP / 252 Atk / 88 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Recover
- Drain Punch
- Aqua Jet
- Gunk Shot
252 Atk Cloyster Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 200 HP / 0 Def Arghonaut: 85-105 (21.1 - 26.1%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
220+ Atk Arghonaut Drain Punch vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Cloyster: 120-144 (49.7 - 59.7%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
Bring on Plasmanta!
Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum!
Drink and the devil - Unaware of the rest!
Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum!
Arghonaut @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 200 HP / 252 Atk / 88 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Recover
- Drain Punch
- Aqua Jet
- Gunk Shot
252 Atk Cloyster Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 200 HP / 0 Def Arghonaut: 85-105 (21.1 - 26.1%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
220+ Atk Arghonaut Drain Punch vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Cloyster: 120-144 (49.7 - 59.7%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
Bring on Plasmanta!
Granbull @ Choice Band
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Play Rough
- Ice Punch
- Thunder Punch
- Earthquake
-1 220+ Atk Arghonaut Gunk Shot vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Granbull: 212-250 (65.8 - 77.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Granbull Play Rough vs. 200 HP / 0 Def Arghonaut: 476-564 (118.7 - 140.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Play Rough
- Ice Punch
- Thunder Punch
- Earthquake
-1 220+ Atk Arghonaut Gunk Shot vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Granbull: 212-250 (65.8 - 77.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Granbull Play Rough vs. 200 HP / 0 Def Arghonaut: 476-564 (118.7 - 140.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Durant @ Choice Band
Ability: Hustle
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Iron Head
- X-Scissor
- Stone Edge
- Superpower
252+ Atk Choice Band Granbull Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Durant: 153-181 (59.5 - 70.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Hustle Durant Iron Head vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Granbull: 660-776 (204.9 - 240.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Weezing @ Black Sludge
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Pain Split
- Will-O-Wisp
- Sludge Bomb
- Flamethrower
252 Atk Choice Band Hustle Durant Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Weezing: 165-195 (49.4 - 58.3%) -- 66.4% chance to 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery
0 SpA Weezing Flamethrower vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Durant: 404-476 (157.1 - 185.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
The miss chance from Hustle gives Weezing around a 58% chance to counter.
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Pain Split
- Will-O-Wisp
- Sludge Bomb
- Flamethrower
252 Atk Choice Band Hustle Durant Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Weezing: 165-195 (49.4 - 58.3%) -- 66.4% chance to 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery
0 SpA Weezing Flamethrower vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Durant: 404-476 (157.1 - 185.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
The miss chance from Hustle gives Weezing around a 58% chance to counter.
Gonna go full stats nerd real quick
tl;dr Weezing doesn't counter
252 Atk Choice Band Hustle Durant Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Weezing: 165-195 (49.4 - 58.3%) -- 66.4% chance to 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery
Probability that Durant hits both Iron Heads with high damage roll
(80% * 80% * 66.4%) = 42.496% Durant wins
If we ignore flinches and crits, the above part is correct and Weezing wins over half the time, but this already a borderline case, so I think it's fair to take these variables into account. Looking at what happens if Durant gets a low roll...
Probability that Durant hits both Iron Heads with low damage roll, but crits on one or both
(80% * 80% * 6.25% * 93.75% * 33.6%) + (80% * 80% * 93.75% * 6.25% * 33.6%) + (80% * 80% * 6.25% * 6.25% * 33.6%) = 1.26% + 1.26% + 0.084% = 2.604% Durant wins
Probability that Durant hits both Iron Heads with low damage roll, no crits, second Iron Head is a flinch
(80% * 80% * 93.75% * 93.75% * 33.6% * 30% chance to flinch) = 5.67% Durant wins
Probability that Durant hits both Iron Heads with low damage roll, no crits, second Iron Head is not a flinch
(80% * 80% * 93.75% * 93.75% * 33.6% * 70%) = 13.23% Durant loses
Probability that Durant misses one or both of its Iron Heads
(20% * 20%) + (20% * 80%) + (80% + 20%) = 36% Durant loses
42.496% + 13.23% + 2.604% + 5.67% + 36% = 100%
42.496% + 2.604% + 5.67% = 50.77% chance of Durant winning.
(this doesn't account for some highly unlikely winning scenarios like Durant missing first Iron Head but flinching the next two, etc, point is that Durant wins in over 50% of scenarios)
Probability that Durant hits both Iron Heads with high damage roll
(80% * 80% * 66.4%) = 42.496% Durant wins
If we ignore flinches and crits, the above part is correct and Weezing wins over half the time, but this already a borderline case, so I think it's fair to take these variables into account. Looking at what happens if Durant gets a low roll...
Probability that Durant hits both Iron Heads with low damage roll, but crits on one or both
(80% * 80% * 6.25% * 93.75% * 33.6%) + (80% * 80% * 93.75% * 6.25% * 33.6%) + (80% * 80% * 6.25% * 6.25% * 33.6%) = 1.26% + 1.26% + 0.084% = 2.604% Durant wins
Probability that Durant hits both Iron Heads with low damage roll, no crits, second Iron Head is a flinch
(80% * 80% * 93.75% * 93.75% * 33.6% * 30% chance to flinch) = 5.67% Durant wins
Probability that Durant hits both Iron Heads with low damage roll, no crits, second Iron Head is not a flinch
(80% * 80% * 93.75% * 93.75% * 33.6% * 70%) = 13.23% Durant loses
Probability that Durant misses one or both of its Iron Heads
(20% * 20%) + (20% * 80%) + (80% + 20%) = 36% Durant loses
42.496% + 13.23% + 2.604% + 5.67% + 36% = 100%
42.496% + 2.604% + 5.67% = 50.77% chance of Durant winning.
(this doesn't account for some highly unlikely winning scenarios like Durant missing first Iron Head but flinching the next two, etc, point is that Durant wins in over 50% of scenarios)
Still not a counter though.
was worried sparky was gonna snipe me for a moment
This is though
Scizor- Mega@Scizorite
Ability technician
EVs: 252Hp / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish nature
-roost
Swords dance
-Bullet Punch
-Bug Bite
252 Atk Choice Band Hustle Durant Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Scizor: 187-220 (54.3 - 63.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
-1 252 Atk Choice Band Hustle Durant Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mega Scizor: 98-116 (28.4 - 33.7%) -- 0.3% chance to 3HKO
Scizor barely misses the 2ko, and roosts away safely, gets up swords dance, and wins
was worried sparky was gonna snipe me for a moment
This is though
Scizor- Mega@Scizorite
Ability technician
EVs: 252Hp / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish nature
-roost
Swords dance
-Bullet Punch
-Bug Bite
252 Atk Choice Band Hustle Durant Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Scizor: 187-220 (54.3 - 63.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
-1 252 Atk Choice Band Hustle Durant Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mega Scizor: 98-116 (28.4 - 33.7%) -- 0.3% chance to 3HKO
Scizor barely misses the 2ko, and roosts away safely, gets up swords dance, and wins
Entei @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Sacred Fire
- Flare Blitz
- Extreme Speed
- Stone Edge
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Sacred Fire
- Flare Blitz
- Extreme Speed
- Stone Edge
Golem @ Choice Band
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Sucker Punch
- Superpower
252+ Atk Choice Band Entei Flare Blitz vs. 4 HP / 0+ Def Golem: 107-126 (35.4 - 41.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Golem Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Entei: 528-624 (142.3 - 168.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Sucker Punch
- Superpower
252+ Atk Choice Band Entei Flare Blitz vs. 4 HP / 0+ Def Golem: 107-126 (35.4 - 41.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Golem Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Entei: 528-624 (142.3 - 168.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Golem with 252 Spe? lol, and Impish nature, Interesting :P.
Tomohawk@ Life Orb
Ability: Prankster
Evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
-earth Power
-Nature Power
-Hurricane
-Roost
252 Atk Choice Band Golem Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Tomohawk: 252-297 (71.7 - 84.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Well, I hate to say this, but it works. Tomo roosts up, Stone edge only does half of above calc afterwards, and eventually, either stone edge runs out of PP or tomo gets off two earth powers and wins
Tomohawk@ Life Orb
Ability: Prankster
Evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
-earth Power
-Nature Power
-Hurricane
-Roost
252 Atk Choice Band Golem Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Tomohawk: 252-297 (71.7 - 84.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Well, I hate to say this, but it works. Tomo roosts up, Stone edge only does half of above calc afterwards, and eventually, either stone edge runs out of PP or tomo gets off two earth powers and wins
Alakazam @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Psychic
- Focus Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Protect
252 SpA Life Orb Tomohawk Hurricane vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Alakazam: 222-263 (88.4 - 104.7%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Psychic vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Tomohawk: 471-556 (134.1 - 158.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Psychic
- Focus Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Protect
252 SpA Life Orb Tomohawk Hurricane vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Alakazam: 222-263 (88.4 - 104.7%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Psychic vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Tomohawk: 471-556 (134.1 - 158.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
tomo has priority nature power
Tornadus-Therian @ Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 132 HP / 160 SpA / 216 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hurricane
- Focus Blast
- Knock Off
- Heat Wave
252+ SpA Life Orb Tomohawk Hurricane vs. 132 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Tornadus-T: 172-203 (51.8 - 61.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Tomohawk Nature Power vs. 132 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Tornadus-T: 83-99 (25 - 29.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
160 SpA Tornadus-T Hurricane vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tomohawk: 356-422 (101.4 - 120.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Torn-T switches in, tanks a Hurricane.
Torn-T tanks a priority Nature Power and doesn't miss Hurricane (that never happens) and OHKOs.
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 132 HP / 160 SpA / 216 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hurricane
- Focus Blast
- Knock Off
- Heat Wave
252+ SpA Life Orb Tomohawk Hurricane vs. 132 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Tornadus-T: 172-203 (51.8 - 61.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Tomohawk Nature Power vs. 132 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Tornadus-T: 83-99 (25 - 29.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
160 SpA Tornadus-T Hurricane vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tomohawk: 356-422 (101.4 - 120.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Torn-T switches in, tanks a Hurricane.
Torn-T tanks a priority Nature Power and doesn't miss Hurricane (
Diancie-Mega @ Diancite
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Moonblast
- Diamond Storm
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power [Fire]
160 SpA Tornadus-T Focus Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Diancie: 100-118 (41.4 - 48.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
4 Atk Mega Diancie Diamond Storm vs. 132 HP / 0 Def Tornadus-T: 392-464 (118 - 139.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Scizor-Mega @ Scizorite
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Bullet Punch
- Bug Bite
- Superpower
- Aerial Ace
252 SpA Mega Diancie Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Mega Scizor: 244-288 (70.9 - 83.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
4+ Atk Technician Mega Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Diancie: 372-444 (154.3 - 184.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Bullet Punch
- Bug Bite
- Superpower
- Aerial Ace
252 SpA Mega Diancie Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Mega Scizor: 244-288 (70.9 - 83.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
4+ Atk Technician Mega Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Diancie: 372-444 (154.3 - 184.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Charizard Mega Y@ Charizardite Y
Ability: drought
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
tImid Nature
-Fire Blast
-Focus Blast
-Solarbeam
-Roost
GG scizor
Ability: drought
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
tImid Nature
-Fire Blast
-Focus Blast
-Solarbeam
-Roost
GG scizor
Heracross-Mega @ Heracronite
Ability: Moxie
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Pin Missile
- Rock Blast
- Bullet Seed
252 Atk Mega Heracross Close Combat vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 678-800 (105.6 - 124.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Granbull @ Choice Band
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Atk / 44 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Play Rough
- Ice Punch
- Thunder Punch
- Earthquake
-1 252 Atk Mega Heracross Rock Blast (5 hits) vs. 212 HP / 0 Def Granbull: 155-185 (41.4 - 49.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Granbull Play Rough vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Heracross: 404-476 (134.2 - 158.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Plasmanta @ Air Balloon
Timid Nature
252 SpA / 252 Spe
- Sludge Bomb
- Thunderbolt
- Hp Fire
- Encore
Timid Nature
252 SpA / 252 Spe
- Sludge Bomb
- Thunderbolt
- Hp Fire
- Encore
Latios @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Grass Knot
- Roost
252 SpA Plasmanta Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Latios: 136-162 (45.4 - 54.1%) -- 46.1% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Latios Psyshock vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Plasmanta: 296-351 (113.4 - 134.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Bisharp @ Assault Vest
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 192 HP / 252 Att / 96 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Iron Head
- Knock Off
- Sucker Punch
- Brick Break
252 SpA Life Orb Latios Draco Meteor vs. 192 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Bisharp: 123-146 (38.5 - 45.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
220+ Atk Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Latios: 330-390 (110.3 - 130.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
The other OU Dark-Type that can tank a Draco
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 192 HP / 252 Att / 96 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Iron Head
- Knock Off
- Sucker Punch
- Brick Break
252 SpA Life Orb Latios Draco Meteor vs. 192 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Bisharp: 123-146 (38.5 - 45.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
220+ Atk Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Latios: 330-390 (110.3 - 130.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
The other OU Dark-Type that can tank a Draco