So once you've scouted your opponent's entire team, there's less prediction involved? What a joke.I know exactly what prediction is. Im not sure if YOU know what prediction means.
This. Try it out before complaining. If it's bad, get used to it, adapt or, if if it's too horrid, witch I doubt, stick with the DPP meta. If it's fine, then that's it. Let's wait with the complaining untill we get a chance too try it out.All of you people who think this is going to ruin the game need to try it before you make a judgment. Your doom and gloom is completely unwarranted. As someone who's played for years using this rule, I can tell you that it does promote prediction and skill.
So once you've scouted your opponent's entire team, there's less prediction involved? What a joke.
Knowing how it works in a mechanical sense and knowing how it affects gameplay and strategy are two entirely different things. With a change this major, untested theorymon is complete garbage. Anybody who claims otherwise has too high an opinion of their intelligence.I love all these "try it out before judging" comments as if this was something so unique no one could fathom how it would work before doing it.
Agreed. I might not be overly happy about this, but I am not going to sit here rambling on about what happens when x meets x or I use y. We'll just have to play it out. If anything this helps the VGC environment in single elimination formats. We've always been able to take Pokemon 5 and 6 that fit the team to counter the regular counters, but never known when to use them. :pKnowing how it works in a mechanical sense and knowing how it affects gameplay and strategy are two entirely different things. With a change this major, untested theorymon is complete garbage. Anybody who claims otherwise has too high an opinion of their intelligence.
Indeed. I may not be a fan of it, but I'll go on and continuing to play competitive pokemon regardless of the change. Adjustments have been made since I started back in gen 2, so I'll just get used to it. xPWow, I knew this community feared change but some of the responses in this thread are just idiotic.
I welcome this change if only for the fact that it drives these people out of the community. Maybe without them we can finally re-tier stuff properly.
Well, too me there's more than that. Firstly I'm not the most experienced around here, so I don't know how much actually will change, and don't feel able to make an educated guess. Secondly I prefer a "don't worry, be happy" approach to this. Why be so negative when there's clear oppinions on it being good? On the other hand I don't want to be overly excited in case I dislike the change only to get disappointed in th end.I love all these "try it out before judging" comments as if this was something so unique no one could fathom how it would work before doing it.
It's like talking to a brick wall.Im pretty sure if you've scouted your opponent's ENTIRE team, that the only thing you'll be predicting afterwards is what movesets, and what your opponent will be doing himself instead of having to guess, and predict what he may send out.
yea, nice example.
The default rules for random wi-fi are PBR style: see the opponent's full roster of 6, pick your 3 (for singles) or 4 (for doubles) or 6 (for triples).Also, isn't PBR a bit different than this? I thought it showed all 6 of your opponents Pokemon but each of you then only chose 3 to battle with. 5th gen wifi is still 6v6, right?
I wasn't trying to say that you couldn't contribute. I just take strong issue with the idea that someone can know exactly how this change will play out and know exactly how much they'll enjoy the change without ever having played with it.Whatever you say, I'll bow out as I lack the "credentials" to discuss this it seems.
Edit: I'm not saying anything doom and gloom here. I never said I would never play again or anything. All I've said is I don't look forward to it.
From what I've heard, WiFi random matches are 3v3 for single battles. I'm almost positive there's a way to do a 6v6 singles match with Friend Code wireless. Hopefully there will be a way to play 3v3 matches with Friend Codes as well, but I don't know for sure.Also, isn't PBR a bit different than this? I thought it showed all 6 of your opponents Pokemon but each of you then only chose 3 to battle with. 5th gen wifi is still 6v6, right?
Cool. Good to know. Do you have the option to play 3v3 in Friend Code matches?In friend code matches you can play 6v6 in any mode.
Did you even look over your example after you posted this definition? For your example, you stated that an entire team was scouted. Going off of your definition, if you HADN'T have scouted the entire team, then there would be more prediction by not knowing what pokemon they had. My point is the same point as yours other then the fact that you took mine to the extreme when all I stated was that it was less prediction, not all prediction was gone. If I thought it was all ABC's then I would have been able to list an entire outcome of event's afterwards, when I didn't, mentioning only movesets, and outplaying your opponent. So many other things factor into that. Does less prediction mean less mindgames? no, it doesn't. Does that mean that less prediction will supposedly become all "ABC" as you so claim that I see it as? No, it wont.It's like talking to a brick wall.
pre·dict (pr-dkt)
v. pre·dict·ed, pre·dict·ing, pre·dicts
v.tr.
To state, tell about, or make known in advance, especially on the basis of special knowledge.
v.intr.
To foretell something; prophesy.
If you don't know anything in advance, it's not prediction, it's complete guesswork. My point is once you have knowledge, it doesn't mean it's turned dumb and predictable. If you think it is ABC, like you're telling us, then all we had to is scout and counter everything. It doesn't work that way.
No, there wouldn't. That would be guessing, not predicting. What you are saying is that this eliminates some guesswork, not some prediction.then there would be more prediction by not knowing what pokemon they had in advance.