Jukain
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Everyone knows the usage stats are a problem. It takes anyone who's played OU for a while competitively to know that Chansey is generally better than Blissey, that Donphan should not be OU, that Thundurus should not be #45 in the usage stats, and that Manaphy/Kyurem-B should be nowhere near UU. The fact that we use these stats to determine what's in a competitive tier is silly. The weighted stats aimed to fix this problem, but they're just covering up stuff even worse than this. People complain about the usage stats more and more each time they come out. It's just getting tiring at this point. After talking to some others, I'm proposing we use the 1760 stats (Antar just released these) for tiering. A few OU jumps:
- Thundurus, a top 3 mon, up to #13 (from #45)
- Manaphy from UU, up to the 30s
- Kyurem-B from UU, up to the 30s
- Chansey from UU, to #33, and Blissey down to #48
List of BL/UU mons that would become OU: Landorus, Deoxys-S, Latias, Keldeo, Kyurem-B, Chansey, Deoxys-D, Manaphy, Terrakion, Zapdos
List of OU mons that would become UU: Donphan, Klefki, Smeargle, Starmie, Trevenant, Galvantula, Tentacruel, Sableye, Cloyster, Forretress, Salamence
The 1760 stats are so much better. They should be used for Smogon tiering.
- Thundurus, a top 3 mon, up to #13 (from #45)
- Manaphy from UU, up to the 30s
- Kyurem-B from UU, up to the 30s
- Chansey from UU, to #33, and Blissey down to #48
List of BL/UU mons that would become OU: Landorus, Deoxys-S, Latias, Keldeo, Kyurem-B, Chansey, Deoxys-D, Manaphy, Terrakion, Zapdos
List of OU mons that would become UU: Donphan, Klefki, Smeargle, Starmie, Trevenant, Galvantula, Tentacruel, Sableye, Cloyster, Forretress, Salamence
The 1760 stats are so much better. They should be used for Smogon tiering.