NU Dragalge

[Ares]

add in another usage tip for specs
mention on the specially defensive set in usage tips that it is a good fire check and can switch in on them barring coverage

QC 2/3

qc muh pu stuff babe

 

[Blast]

Specs only needs 52 Spe for base 50s, no creeping

I would also mention Focus Blast whacks Audino and Lickilicky since otherwise they can take two DMs factoring in the SpA drop

Is Dragon Pulse worth it on defensive? It seems kinda bad because it lacks the power of Specs and has Sludge Bomb for a reliable STAB anyway, and most stuff that resists Sludge Bomb are dealt with by Scald or Dragon Tail.

Offensive pressure and hazard stacking in C&C

 

[g]

Specs only needs 52 Spe for base 50s, no creeping

I would also mention Focus Blast whacks Audino and Lickilicky since otherwise they can take two DMs factoring in the SpA drop

Is Dragon Pulse worth it on defensive? It seems kinda bad because it lacks the power of Specs and has Sludge Bomb for a reliable STAB anyway, and most stuff that resists Sludge Bomb are dealt with by Scald or Dragon Tail.

Offensive pressure and hazard stacking in C&C

Added everything bar the dragon pulse part which i discussed with Soulgazer before, i am open to readding it though :]

 

[ryan]

mention offensive TSpikes set like magcargo posted in OO

3/3

 

[Ares]

Hey galbia when will this be written by?

 

[g]

Hey galbia when will this be written by?

I started writing this yesterday, it should be finished by the weekend at worst

 

[g]

This only lacks the overview zzz I'll do that tomorrow

 

[Weebl]

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Overview
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Dragalge is arguably the best Dragon-type in the NU metagame.(remove period) as it is capable of serving multiple roles in many different playstyles thanks to its high stats outside of Speed, very good typing, and nice offensive coverage Dragalge is capable of serving multiple roles in a lot of different archetypes. Its Choice Specs set, (AC) for example, (AC) can hit very hard with Draco Meteor for offensive teams, (AC) and the defensive set can set up Toxic Spikes for balanced ones while checking a very wide number range of threats, (AC) including most Fire-, Water-, and Grass-types. However, (AC) Dragalge is very slow, meaning that it often has to take two hits before moving, (AC) and has no reliable recovery, (AC) and is thus so it is (using "and" twice in a short section of text sounds a bit clunky IMO) easily worn down by repeated attacks and the entry hazards that haunt this metagame NU.

Choice Specs
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name: The Illest Villain
move 1: Draco Meteor
move 2: Sludge Bomb
move 3: Focus Blast
move 4: Dragon Pulse / Scald
ability: Poison Point
item: Choice Specs
evs: 204 HP / 252 SpA / 52 Spd
nature: Modest

Moves
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Draco Meteor is the Dragalge's most powerful STAB move, (AC) Dragalge has and it is incredibly powerful (<-- already mentioned) has stellar coverage throughout the tier. Sludge Bomb hits Fairy-types, which are immune to Draco Meteor, (AC) for super effective damage and is a more reliable move to be locked into than Draco Meteor. The biggest Sludge Bomb's higher chance to poison chance is preferred over the slightly extra amount of power Sludge Wave's slightly higher Base Power, has but the second latter can still be used to hit slightly harder and to hit the uncommon Quilladin. Focus Blast hits the Steel-types that resist both of Dragalge's STAB moves for super effective damage and to allows Dragalge to 2HKO Lickilicky and Audino. Hidden Power Fire can be used too as a more accurate option to deal with Ferroseed, mind that but it does the same damage as Focus Blast. Dragon Pulse is an accurate Dragon-type STAB move that is very useful against Ground- and Poison-types if you can't afford to lock yourself Dragalge into Draco Meteor. Note However, (AC) that two Draco Meteors are more powerful than two Dragon Pulses even when factoring in the Special Attack drop. Scald is an option in the last moveslot for the burn chance and as a more accurate way of hitting Rhydon and bulky Ground-types.

Set Details
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The given Speed EVs let Dragalge outspeed uninvested base 50s, (AC) such as Vileplume and Granbull. Special Attack EVs are is maximized, (AC) and the remaining EVs are put in bulk to let Dragalge take hits from Grass- and Water-types better. Choice Specs is the item of choice as it gives a massive power boost to moves such as Draco Meteor.

Usage Tips
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Dragalge should be switched into defensive Water-types, (AC) such as Qwilfish and Poliwrath, (AC) and Poison-types, (AC) such as Garbodor and Weezing, (AC) as they are provide the best opportunities to fire off attacks. Grass-types, (AC) such as Lilligant and Vileplume, (AC) are also provide good opportunities to switch in if Sleep Clause is in effect (sleep clause is always in effect in NU.) another teammate is already asleep. Recklessly spam Draco Meteor if the opponent doesn't have any Fairy-types., (remove period and add comma) as it Draco Meteor is very strong and can do sizable damage even to Pokemon that resist it if they don't invest in Special Defense, such as Steelix.

Team Options
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Mesprit pairs quite well with Dragalge as it is a great switch-in (add hyphen) to Pokemon that check Dragalge, such ads Ground-types. It can also set up Stealth Rock for Dragalge's team. Entry hazard support, especially Spikes, can really wear down Dragalge's checks. Good Pokemon for that Spikers are Crustle and Garbodor. Ferroseed also has awesome defensive synergy with Dragalge and thus is a good choice for more balanced teams. Feraligatr is another good partner as Dragalge gets a free switch into on most of its checks, (AC) such as Qwilfish and Vileplume, (AC) to then fire off a Draco Meteor. Slurpuff, especially the Belly Drum set, is also a good choice as Dragalge can easily lure in Steel-types, such as like Ferroseed, Probopass, and Steelix, (AC) and smack them with a Focus Blast.

Defensive
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name: Defensive
move 1: Toxic Spikes
move 2: Dragon Tail
move 3: Sludge Bomb
move 4: Protect / Dragon Pulse
ability: Poison Point
item: Black Sludge
evs: 248 HP / 192 Def / 68 SpD
nature: Calm / Sassy


Moves
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Toxic Spikes is the main move on the set as Dragalge finds quite a bit few of opportunities to set them it up. Dragon Tail is a STAB phazing move to deal with bulky setup sweepers that aren't particularly threatened by any of Dragalge's moves and might try to set up while Dragalge uses Toxic Spikes and aren't particularly threaten by any of Dragalge's moves, such as Feraligatr. Sludge Bomb is used as a reliable STAB move to hit the Grass-types Dragalge checks, (AC) such as Sceptile and Lilligant. Protect is the main move in the last slot because of its usefulness in stalling Toxic to rack up the foe's poison damage, gaining extra Black Sludge recovery, and scouting against Choice-locked (add hyphen) attackers, (AC) but Dragon Pulse is a perfectly viable choice to hit Poison- and Ground-types that fear nothing from Dragalge, (AC) such as Sandslash and Garbodor. Scald is also a viable choice because of its useful burn chance, (AC) but it is pitifully weak without investment. Alternatively, (AC) Rest+Sleep a RestTalk set can be used as a more reliable way to recover HP, (AC) and to make Dragalge a sleep (it can absorb other status as well.) absorber and to better deal with the likes of Lilligant, (AC) but Dragalge really struggles to find 2 room in its moveslotsets for Rest and Sleep Talk, and such a set would be very passive.

Set Details
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68 Special Defense EVs and a positive nature let Dragalge avoid the 2HKO from Choice Specs Pyroar after Stealth Rock damage and Protect to scout its move and from Life Orb Ludicolo's Ice Beam if Stealth Rock are is not up. The remaining EVs are put into Defense to sponge resisted physical hits much better and to take less from Magmortar's Earthquake. A more specially defensive spread can be used to take on special Water- and Fire-types, such as like Typhlosion, Pyroar, and Ludicolo, (AC) even better, (AC) but that makes Dragalge more prone vulnerable to mixed Magmortar, (AC) and it becomes more difficult to sponge repeated physical hits even if they are resisted. The choice between a Calm and a Sassy nature is really a matter of preference – (em dash) as the formerlets former lets Dragalge out speed outspeed base 40s, and the latter gives Dragalge it a stronger Dragon Tail. Black Sludge is the item of choice because it works very well with Protect and is Dragalge's only way to recover HP.
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Usage Tips
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Dragalge easily switches into defensive Grass- and Water-types and can set up Toxic Spikes on them for free. You can use Protect freely against Pokéemon that don't normally carry setup moves and against or choice locked Choice-locked attackers, (AC) but be careful against setup sweepers, such as Feraligatr. Dragalge is also a great switch in to Fire-type attacks and can take on most Fire-types if it doesn't switch into a coverage moves.

Team Options
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Ferroseed is an awesome partner for Dragalge as it can set up Stealth Rock and Spikes for Dragalge to rack up even more damage with Dragon Tail. It also has awesome amazing (again, it sounds clunky to use the same word - in this case, "awesome" - twice in a short portion of text.) synergy with it Dragalge, (AC) resisting Dragalge's its weakness to Psychic weakness and beating most Ground-types. In return, Dragalge in return resists both of Ferroseed's weaknesses to Fighting and Fire weaknesses. Audino and Lickilicky complement Dragalge very well, (AC) providing Wish and Heal Bell support and offering another strong check to special attackers. Bulky Water-types, such as like Seismitoad and Poliwrath, can switch into the bulky Ground- and Steel-types that freely switch into Dragalge and force them out.

Other Options
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Dragalge can use an offensive Toxic Spikes set with maximum Special Attack investment, (AC) but that is it would usually outdone be outclassed by Garbodor and Qwilfish. Haze is an option ion the defensive setset, (AC) but Dragon Tail outclasses it outside of hitting Fairy-types and Substitute users. (remove enter here) Thunderbolt and (same order as Pokemon these moves hit) Hydro Pump and Thunderbolt are alternative coverage moves Dragalge can use on its Choice Specs set, but they only hit nothing outside of specific targets, (AC) such as Mantine and Camerupt.

Checks & Counters
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**Bulky Steel-types (add hyphen)**: Probopass, Steelix, and Ferroseed can switch into every move Dragalge carries bar Focus Blast, (AC) but the defensive set can easily set up Toxic Spikes against them.

**Audino**: Audino doesn't like taking Draco Meteor and or Focus Blast but can act as a pivot switch against Choice Specs variants to see what Dragalge locks itself into; (add semicolon) , be careful however, because the defensive set uses it as setup fodder for Toxic Spikes.

**Bulky Ground-types**: Rhydon, Camerupt, and Seismitoad fear almost nothing from defensive Dragalge and can setup set up (add a space) Stealth Rock or threaten it with Earthquake. They are also decent checks to the Choice Specs set if they manage to switch into Sludge Bomb or a possible Hidden Power Fire.

**Psychic-types**: While they do not enjoy switching into repeated attacks because of their lack of reliable recovery, Psychic-types, (AC) such as Uxie and Mesprit, (AC) are decent checks to Dragalge as they have huge special bulk and can threaten it with their Psychic-type STAB moves.

**Offensive Pressure and Residual Damage**: As Dragalge lacks recovery outside of Rest, (RC) and is vulnerable to all form of entry hazards bar Toxic Spikes, it is quite easily to wear worn down for by offensive teams that can heavily pressure it with repeated attacks.

 

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Overview
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Dragalge is arguably the best Dragon-type in the NU metagame. Thanks to its high stats outside of Speed, very good typing, and nice offensive coverage, (comma) Dragalge is capable of serving multiple roles in a lot of different team archetypes. Its Choice Specs set, (comma) for example, (comma) can hit very hard with Draco Meteor for offensive teams, (comma) and the defensive set can set up Toxic Spikes for balanced ones while checking a very wide number range of threats, including most Fire-, Water-, and Grass-types. However, Dragalge is very slow, meaning that it often has to take two hits before moving, and as it has no reliable recovery, it and is thus easily worn down by repeated attacks and the entry hazards that haunt this metagame.

Choice Specs
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name: The Illest Villain (the names have to match)
move 1: Draco Meteor
move 2: Sludge Bomb
move 3: Focus Blast
move 4: Dragon Pulse / Scald
ability: Poison Point
item: Choice Specs
evs: 204 HP / 252 SpA / 52 Spd
nature: Modest

Moves
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Draco Meteor is the most powerful STAB move Dragalge has, (comma) and it is incredibly powerful has stellar coverage throughout the tier. Sludge Bomb hits Fairy-types immune to Draco Meteor for super effective damage and is a more reliable move to be locked into. The biggest poison chance higher chance to poison is preferred over the slightly extra higher amount of power Sludge Wave has, (comma) but the second can still be used to hit slightly harder and to hit the uncommon Quilladin. Focus Blast hits the Steel-types that resist both of Dragalge's STABs for super effective damage and to allows Dragalge to 2HKO Lickilicky and Audino. Hidden Power Fire can be used too instead as a more accurate option to deal with Ferroseed, mind that but it does the same damage. Dragon Pulse is an accurate Dragon STAB move that is very useful against Ground- and Poison-types if you can't afford to lock yourself Dragalge into Draco Meteor. Note, however, that two Draco Meteors are more powerful than two Dragon Pulses, even factoring in the Special Attack drop. Scald is an option in the last slot for the burn chance and as a more accurate way of hitting Rhydon and bulky Ground-types.

Set Details
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The given Speed EVs allow Dragalge to outspeed uninvested base 50s Speed Pokemon such as Vileplume and Granbull. Special Attack is maximized and the remaining EVs are put in bulk to let Dragalge take hits from Grass- and Water-types better. Choice Specs is the item of choice, (comma) as it gives a massive power boost to moves such as Draco Meteor.

Usage Tips
========

Dragalge should be switched into defensive Water-types such as Qwilfish and Poliwrath and Poison-types such as Garbodor and Weezing, (comma) as they are provide the best opportunities to fire off attacks. Grass-types such as Lilligant and Vileplume are also provide good opportunities to switch in, if Sleep Clause is in effect. Recklessly spam Draco Meteor if the opponent doesn't have any Fairy-types, as it. Draco Meteor is very strong and can do sizable damage even to Pokemon that resist it if they don't invest in Special Defense, such as Steelix.

Team Options
========

Mesprit pairs quite well with Dragalge, (comma) as it is a great switch-in into Pokemon that check Dragalge, such as Ground-types. It can also set up Stealth Rock for Dragalge's team. Entry hazard support, especially Spikes, can really wear down Dragalge's checks. Good Pokemon for that role are Crustle and Garbodor. Ferroseed also has awesome defensive synergy with Dragalge and thus is a good choice for more balanced teams. Feraligatr is another good partner, as Dragalge gets a free switch in on most of its checks such as Qwilfish and Vileplume to then fire off a Draco Meteor. Slurpuff, especially the Belly Drum variant set, is also a good choice, as Dragalge can easily lure in Steel-types like Ferroseed, Probopass, and Steelix and smack them with a Focus Blast.

Defensive
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name: Defensive
move 1: Toxic Spikes
move 2: Dragon Tail
move 3: Sludge Bomb
move 4: Protect / Dragon Pulse
ability: Poison Point
item: Black Sludge
evs: 248 HP / 192 Def / 68 SpD
nature: Calm / Sassy


Moves
========

Toxic Spikes is the main move on the set, (comma) as Dragalge finds quite a bit of few opportunities to set them up. Dragon Tail is a STAB phazing move to deal with bulky setup sweepers that might try to set up while Dragalge uses Toxic Spikes and aren't particularly threatened by any of Dragalge's moves, such as Feraligatr. Sludge Bomb is used as a reliable STAB move to hit the Grass-types Dragalge checks, (comma) such as Sceptile and Lilligant. Protect is the main move in the last slot because of its usefulness in stalling for Toxic damage, gaining extra Black Sludge recovery, and scouting against Choice-locked attackers, (comma) but Dragon Pulse is a perfectly viable choice to hit Poison- and Ground-types that fear nothing from Dragalge, (comma) such as Sandslash and Garbodor. Scald is also a viable choice because of its useful Burn chance to burn, but it is pitifully weak without investment. Alternatively, a RestTalk+Sleep talk set can be used as a more reliable way to recover HP and to make Dragalge a sleep (would 'status' work here too? since dragalge can rest off the status) absorber and that can better deal with the likes of Lilligant, (comma) but Dragalge really struggles to find 2 moveslots room in its movesets and such a set would be very passive.

Set Details
========

68 Special Defense EVs and a positive nature let Dragalge avoid the 2HKO from Choice Specs Pyroar after Stealth Rock and Protect and from Life Orb Ludicolo's Ice Beam if Stealth Rock are is not up. The remaining EVs are put into Defense to let Dragalge sponge resisted physical hits much better and to take less from Magmortar's Earthquake. A more specially defensive spread can be used to take on special Water- and Fire-types like such as Typhlosion, Pyroar, and Ludicolo even better, (comma) but that makes Dragalge more prone to mixed Magmortar and it becomes more difficult to sponge repeated physical hits, (comma) even if they are resisted. The choice between Calm and Sassy is really a matter of preference; as the former lets Dragalge outspeed base 40s and the latter gives Dragalge a stronger Dragon Tail. Black Sludge is the item of choice because it works very well with Protect and is Dragalge's only way to recover HP.
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Usage Tips
========

Dragalge easily switches into defensive Grass- and Water-types and can set up Toxic Spikes on them for free. You can use Protect freely against Pokémon that don't normally carry setup moves and against Choice-locked attackers, (comma) but be careful using it against setup sweepers such as Feraligatr. Dragalge is also a great switch-in (dash) to Fire-type attacks and can take on most Fire-types if it doesn't switch into coverage moves.

Team Options
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Ferroseed is an awesome partner for Dragalge, (comma) as it can set up Stealth Rock and Spikes for Dragalge to rack up even more damage with Dragon Tail. It also has awesome great (repetition of awesome) synergy with it, (comma) resisting Dragalge's Psychic weakness and beating most Ground-types. Dragalge In return, Dragalge resists both Ferroseed's Fighting and Fire weaknesses. Audino and Lickilicky complement Dragalge very well, (comma) providing Wish and Heal Bell support and offering another strong check to special attackers. Bulky Water-types like Seismitoad and Poliwrath can switch into the bulky Ground- and Steel-types that freely switch into Dragalge and force them out.

Other Options
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Dragalge can use an offensive Toxic Spikes set with maximum Special Attack investment, but that it is usually outclassed in that role outdone by Garbodor and Qwilfish. Haze is an option on the defensive set,set but Dragon Tail outclasses it outside of hitting Fairy-types and Substitute users. (remove line break) Hydro Pump and Thunderbolt are alternative coverage moves Dragalge can use on its Choice Specs set, but they hit nothing outside of specific targets such as Mantine and Camerupt Camerupt and Mantine (keeps it consistent; Hydro Pump --> Camerupt, Thunderbolt --> Mantine).

Checks & Counters
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**Bulky Steel-types (dash)**: Probopass, Steelix, and Ferroseed can switch into every move Dragalge carries bar Focus Blast, (comma) but the defensive set can easily set up Toxic Spikes against them.

**Audino**: Audino doesn't like taking Draco Meteor and Focus Blast but can act as a pivot switch against Choice Specs variants to see what Dragalge locks itself into., Be careful, however, because the defensive set uses it as setup fodder for Toxic Spikes.

**Bulky Ground-types**: Rhydon, Camerupt, and Seismitoad fear almost nothing from defensive Dragalge and can set up Stealth Rock or threaten it with Earthquake. They are also decent checks to the Choice Specs set if they manage to switch into Sludge Bomb or a possible Hidden Power Fire.

**Psychic-types**: While they do not enjoy switching into repeated attacks because of their lack of reliable recovery, Psychic-types such as Uxie and Mesprit are decent checks to Dragalge, (comma) as they have huge special bulk and can threaten it with their Psychic STAB moves.

**Offensive pressure and residual damage**: As Dragalge lacks recovery outside of Rest, and is vulnerable to all forms of entry hazards bar Toxic Spikes, it is quite easy to wear down for worn down quite easily by offensive teams that can heavily pressure it with repeated attacks.

 

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Overview
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Dragalge is arguably the best Dragon-type in the NU metagame. Thanks to its high stats outside of Speed, very good typing, and nice offensive coverage, (comma) Dragalge is capable of serving multiple roles in a lot of different team archetypes. Its Choice Specs set, (comma) for example, (comma) can hit very hard with Draco Meteor for offensive teams, (comma) and the defensive set can set up Toxic Spikes for balanced ones while checking a very wide number range of threats, including most Fire-, Water-, and Grass-types. However, Dragalge is very slow, meaning that it often has to take two hits before moving, and as it has no reliable recovery, it and is thus easily worn down by repeated attacks and the entry hazards that haunt this metagame.

Choice Specs
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name: The Illest Villain (the names have to match)
move 1: Draco Meteor
move 2: Sludge Bomb
move 3: Focus Blast
move 4: Dragon Pulse / Scald
ability: Poison Point
item: Choice Specs
evs: 204 HP / 252 SpA / 52 Spd
nature: Modest

Moves
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Draco Meteor is the most powerful STAB move Dragalge has, (comma) and it is incredibly powerful has stellar coverage throughout the tier. Sludge Bomb hits Fairy-types immune to Draco Meteor for super effective damage and is a more reliable move to be locked into. The biggest poison chance higher chance to poison is preferred over the slightly extra higher amount of power Sludge Wave has, (comma) but the second can still be used to hit slightly harder and to hit the uncommon Quilladin. Focus Blast hits the Steel-types that resist both of Dragalge's STABs for super effective damage and to allows Dragalge to 2HKO Lickilicky and Audino. Hidden Power Fire can be used too instead as a more accurate option to deal with Ferroseed, mind that but it does the same damage. Dragon Pulse is an accurate Dragon STAB move that is very useful against Ground- and Poison-types if you can't afford to lock yourself Dragalge into Draco Meteor. Note, however, that two Draco Meteors are more powerful than two Dragon Pulses, even factoring in the Special Attack drop. Scald is an option in the last slot for the burn chance and as a more accurate way of hitting Rhydon and bulky Ground-types.

Set Details
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The given Speed EVs allow Dragalge to outspeed uninvested base 50s Speed Pokemon such as Vileplume and Granbull. Special Attack is maximized and the remaining EVs are put in bulk to let Dragalge take hits from Grass- and Water-types better. Choice Specs is the item of choice, (comma) as it gives a massive power boost to moves such as Draco Meteor.

Usage Tips
========

Dragalge should be switched into defensive Water-types such as Qwilfish and Poliwrath and Poison-types such as Garbodor and Weezing, (comma) as they are provide the best opportunities to fire off attacks. Grass-types such as Lilligant and Vileplume are also provide good opportunities to switch in, if Sleep Clause is in effect. Recklessly spam Draco Meteor if the opponent doesn't have any Fairy-types, as it. Draco Meteor is very strong and can do sizable damage even to Pokemon that resist it if they don't invest in Special Defense, such as Steelix.

Team Options
========

Mesprit pairs quite well with Dragalge, (comma) as it is a great switch-in into Pokemon that check Dragalge, such as Ground-types. It can also set up Stealth Rock for Dragalge's team. Entry hazard support, especially Spikes, can really wear down Dragalge's checks. Good Pokemon for that role are Crustle and Garbodor. Ferroseed also has awesome defensive synergy with Dragalge and thus is a good choice for more balanced teams. Feraligatr is another good partner, as Dragalge gets a free switch in on most of its checks such as Qwilfish and Vileplume to then fire off a Draco Meteor. Slurpuff, especially the Belly Drum variant set, is also a good choice, as Dragalge can easily lure in Steel-types like Ferroseed, Probopass, and Steelix and smack them with a Focus Blast.

Defensive
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name: Defensive
move 1: Toxic Spikes
move 2: Dragon Tail
move 3: Sludge Bomb
move 4: Protect / Dragon Pulse
ability: Poison Point
item: Black Sludge
evs: 248 HP / 192 Def / 68 SpD
nature: Calm / Sassy


Moves
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Toxic Spikes is the main move on the set, (comma) as Dragalge finds quite a bit of few opportunities to set them up. Dragon Tail is a STAB phazing move to deal with bulky setup sweepers that might try to set up while Dragalge uses Toxic Spikes and aren't particularly threatened by any of Dragalge's moves, such as Feraligatr. Sludge Bomb is used as a reliable STAB move to hit the Grass-types Dragalge checks, (comma) such as Sceptile and Lilligant. Protect is the main move in the last slot because of its usefulness in stalling for Toxic damage, gaining extra Black Sludge recovery, and scouting against Choice-locked attackers, (comma) but Dragon Pulse is a perfectly viable choice to hit Poison- and Ground-types that fear nothing from Dragalge, (comma) such as Sandslash and Garbodor. Scald is also a viable choice because of its useful Burn chance to burn, but it is pitifully weak without investment. Alternatively, a RestTalk+Sleep talk set can be used as a more reliable way to recover HP and to make Dragalge a sleep (would 'status' work here too? since dragalge can rest off the status) absorber and that can better deal with the likes of Lilligant, (comma) but Dragalge really struggles to find 2 moveslots room in its movesets and such a set would be very passive.

Set Details
========

68 Special Defense EVs and a positive nature let Dragalge avoid the 2HKO from Choice Specs Pyroar after Stealth Rock and Protect and from Life Orb Ludicolo's Ice Beam if Stealth Rock are is not up. The remaining EVs are put into Defense to let Dragalge sponge resisted physical hits much better and to take less from Magmortar's Earthquake. A more specially defensive spread can be used to take on special Water- and Fire-types like such as Typhlosion, Pyroar, and Ludicolo even better, (comma) but that makes Dragalge more prone to mixed Magmortar and it becomes more difficult to sponge repeated physical hits, (comma) even if they are resisted. The choice between Calm and Sassy is really a matter of preference; as the former lets Dragalge outspeed base 40s and the latter gives Dragalge a stronger Dragon Tail. Black Sludge is the item of choice because it works very well with Protect and is Dragalge's only way to recover HP.
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Usage Tips
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Dragalge easily switches into defensive Grass- and Water-types and can set up Toxic Spikes on them for free. You can use Protect freely against Pokémon that don't normally carry setup moves and against Choice-locked attackers, (comma) but be careful using it against setup sweepers such as Feraligatr. Dragalge is also a great switch-in (dash) to Fire-type attacks and can take on most Fire-types if it doesn't switch into coverage moves.

Team Options
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Ferroseed is an awesome partner for Dragalge, (comma) as it can set up Stealth Rock and Spikes for Dragalge to rack up even more damage with Dragon Tail. It also has awesome great (repetition of awesome) synergy with it, (comma) resisting Dragalge's Psychic weakness and beating most Ground-types. Dragalge In return, Dragalge resists both Ferroseed's Fighting and Fire weaknesses. Audino and Lickilicky complement Dragalge very well, (comma) providing Wish and Heal Bell support and offering another strong check to special attackers. Bulky Water-types like Seismitoad and Poliwrath can switch into the bulky Ground- and Steel-types that freely switch into Dragalge and force them out.

Other Options
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Dragalge can use an offensive Toxic Spikes set with maximum Special Attack investment, but that it is usually outclassed in that role outdone by Garbodor and Qwilfish. Haze is an option on the defensive set,set but Dragon Tail outclasses it outside of hitting Fairy-types and Substitute users. (remove line break) Hydro Pump and Thunderbolt are alternative coverage moves Dragalge can use on its Choice Specs set, but they hit nothing outside of specific targets such as Mantine and Camerupt Camerupt and Mantine (keeps it consistent; Hydro Pump --> Camerupt, Thunderbolt --> Mantine).

Checks & Counters
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**Bulky Steel-types (dash)**: Probopass, Steelix, and Ferroseed can switch into every move Dragalge carries bar Focus Blast, (comma) but the defensive set can easily set up Toxic Spikes against them.

**Audino**: Audino doesn't like taking Draco Meteor and Focus Blast but can act as a pivot switch against Choice Specs variants to see what Dragalge locks itself into., Be careful, however, because the defensive set uses it as setup fodder for Toxic Spikes.

**Bulky Ground-types**: Rhydon, Camerupt, and Seismitoad fear almost nothing from defensive Dragalge and can set up Stealth Rock or threaten it with Earthquake. They are also decent checks to the Choice Specs set if they manage to switch into Sludge Bomb or a possible Hidden Power Fire.

**Psychic-types**: While they do not enjoy switching into repeated attacks because of their lack of reliable recovery, Psychic-types such as Uxie and Mesprit are decent checks to Dragalge, (comma) as they have huge special bulk and can threaten it with their Psychic STAB moves.

**Offensive pressure and residual damage**: As Dragalge lacks recovery outside of Rest, and is vulnerable to all forms of entry hazards bar Toxic Spikes, it is quite easy to wear down for worn down quite easily by offensive teams that can heavily pressure it with repeated attacks.

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Commenting done galbia
No explanation of poison point on either set?

Also i think poison touch is SD worthy, bulky levitators like uxie, mesprit, bulkytom, want to come in, phaze with dtail with a 30% poison chance

For now, main move is just new 'crux of that set', i just slotted in excellent but really anything could go there.

Edit: due to shitty setup, some changes at the start omitted. Now they're back. Comments commencing.

comments

Comments:

Is hp fire even worth it as a moves mention? You lose so much relevant coverage, just for one mon 70% accuracy.

I see too much of this "resist" shit, stop it you and everyone else. Steel is immune to poison, so they wall your stabs, but do not resist them.

I'm aware that waters and grasses are your primary switchins and stuff, butq extrs hp helps everywhere. Espc. with dragalge and its many resists.

Same principle for specs, get what you are going for but still.

At the sleep clause thing, that is an elegant explanation, but one i felt some people might not understand. Up to you.

Slurpuff loves Dragalge, but dragalge could care less about slurpuff.

Dragon tail: such a long explanation. Obv setup sweepers that try to set up aren't usually weak to sludge, plus obv dtail is for the rest. Plus they can set up on so much other stuff.

amcheck

Overview
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Dragalge is arguably the best Dragon-type in the NU metagame. Thanks to its high stats outside of Speed, very good typing, and nice offensive coverage, Dragalge is capable of serving multiple roles in a lot of different team archetypes. Its Choice Specs set, for example, can hit very hard with Draco Meteor for offensive teams, and the defensive set can set up Toxic Spikes for balanced ones while checking a very wide range of threats, including most Fire-, Water-, and Grass-types. However, Dragalge is very slow, meaning that it often has to take two hits before moving, and as it has no reliable recovery, it is easily worn down by repeated attacks and entry hazards.

Choice Specs
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name: Choice Specs
move 1: Draco Meteor
move 2: Sludge Bomb
move 3: Focus Blast
move 4: Dragon Pulse / Scald
ability: Poison Point
item: Choice Specs
evs: 204 HP / 252 SpA / 52 Spd
nature: Modest

Moves
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Draco Meteor is the most powerful STAB move Dragalge has, and it has stellar coverage in the NU metagame. Sludge Bomb hits Fairy-types immune to Draco Meteor for super effective damage and is a more reliable move to be locked into. The higher chance to poison is preferred over the higher amount of power Sludge Wave has, but the second can still be used to hit slightly harder and to hit the uncommon Quilladin. Focus Blast hits the Steel-types that resist both ofwall Dragalge's STABs for super effective damage and allows Dragalge to 2HKO Lickilicky and Audino. Hidden Power Fire can be used instead as a more accurate option to deal with Ferroseed, but it does the same damage. Dragon Pulse is an accurate Dragon STAB move that is very useful against Ground- and Poison-types if you can't afford to lock Dragalge into Draco Meteor. Note, however, that two Draco Meteors are more powerful than two Dragon Pulses, even factoring in the Special Attack drop. Scald is an option in the last slot for the burn chance and as a more accurate way of hitting Rhydon and bulky Ground-types.

Set Details
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The given Speed EVs allow Dragalge to outspeed uninvested base 50 Speed Pokemon such as Vileplume and Granbull. Special Attack is maximized and the remaining EVs are put in bulk to let Dragalge take hits from Grass- and Water-types better. Choice Specs is the item of choice, as it gives a massive power boost to movspes such iasl Drattaco Meteorks.

Usage Tips
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Dragalge should be switched into defensive Water-types such as Qwilfish and Poliwrath and Poison-types such as Garbodor and Weezing, as they provide the best opportunities to fire off attacks. Grass-types such as Lilligant and Vileplume also provide good opportunities to switch in, ifas Slong as they'vep Calready pust another isteammate into sleffectp. Recklessly spam Draco Meteor if the opponent doesn't have any Fairy-types, as it is very strong and can do sizable damage even to Pokemon that resist it if they don't invest in Special Defense, such as Steelix.

Team Options
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Mesprit pairs quite well with Dragalge, as it is a great switch-in to Pokemon that check Dragalge, such as Ground-types., Itand can also set up Stealth Rock for Dragalge's team. Entry hazard support, especially Spikes, can really wear down Dragalge's checks.; Ggood Pokemon for that role are Crustle and Garbodor. Ferroseed calsn provide entry hazards and has awesome defensive synergy with Dragalge, and thus is a good choice for more balanced teams. Feraligatr is another good partner, as Dragalge gets a free switch in on most of its checks, such as Qwilfish and Vileplume, toand then fire off a Draco Meteor. Slurpuff, especially the Belly Drum variant, apprecis alteso being pa goortnered cwithoice, as Dragalge, as it can easily lure in Steel-types like Ferroseed, Probopass, and Steelix and smack them with a Focus Blast.

Defensive
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name: Defensive
move 1: Toxic Spikes
move 2: Dragon Tail
move 3: Sludge Bomb
move 4: Protect / Dragon Pulse
ability: Poison Point
item: Black Sludge
evs: 248 HP / 192 Def / 68 SpD
nature: Calm / Sassy


Moves
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Toxic Spikes is thare main move on thxce sllent, asnd Dragalge finds quite a few opportunities to set them up. Dragon Tail is a STAB phazing move to deal with bulky setup sweepers that might try to set up while Dragalge uses Toxic Spikes and aren't particularly threatened by any of Dragalge's moves, such as Feraligatr. Sludge Bomb is a reliable STAB move to hit the Grass-types Dragalge checks, such as Sceptile and Lilligant. Protect is the main move in the last slot because of its usefulness inly stallings for Tpoxicson damage, gaining extrad Black Sludge recovery, andwhile scouting Choice-locked attackers, but Dragon Pulse is a perfectly viable choice to hit Poison- and Ground-types that fear nothing else from Dragalge, such as Sandslash and Garbodor. Scald is also a viable choice because of its useful chance to burn, but it is pitifully weak without investment. Alternatively, a RestTalk set can be used as a more reliable way to recover HP and to make Dragalge a sleep absorber that can better deal with the likes of Lilligant, but Dragalge really struggles to find room in its movesets and such a set would be very passive.

Set Details
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68 Special Defense EVs and a positive nature let Dragalge avoid the 2HKO from Choice Specs Pyroar after Stealth Rock and Protect and from Life Orb Ludicolo's Ice Beam if Stealth Rock is not up. The remaining EVs are put into Defense to let Dragalge sponge resisted physical hits much better and take less from Magmortar's Earthquake. A more specially defensive spread can be used to take on special Water- and Fire-types such as Typhlosion, Pyroar, and Ludicolo even better, but that makes Dragalge more prone to mixed Magmortar and it becomes more difficult to sponge repeated physical hits, even if they are resisted. The choice between Calm and Sassy is really a matter of preference; the former lets Dragalge outspeed base 40s and the latter gives Dragalge a stronger Dragon Tail. Black Sludge works very well with Protect and is Dragalge's only way to recover HP outside of RestTalk.

Usage Tips
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Dragalge easily switches into defensive Grass- and Water-types and can set up Toxic Spikes on them for free. You can use Protect freely against Pokéemon that don't normally carry setup moves and against Choice-locked attackers, but be careful using it against setup sweepers such as Feraligatr. Dragalge is also a great switch-in to Fire-type attacks and can take on most Fire-types if it doesn't switch into coverage moves.

Team Options
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Ferroseed is an awesome partner for Dragalge, as it can set up Stealth Rock and Spikes for Dragalge to rack up even more damage with Dragon Tail. It also has great synergy with it, resisting Dragalge's Psychic weakness and beating most Ground-types.; Iin return, Dragalge resists both of Ferroseed's weaknesses in Fighting and Fire weaknesses. Audino and Lickilicky complement Dragalge very well, providing Wish and Heal Bell support and offering another strong check to special attackers. Bulky Water-types like Seismitoad and Poliwrath can switch into the bulky Ground- and Steel-types that freely switch into Dragalge and force them out.

Other Options
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Dragalge can use an offensive Toxic Spikes set with maximum Special Attack investment, but it is usually outclassed in that role by Garbodor and Qwilfish. Haze is an option on the defensive set, but Dragon Tail outclasses it outside of hitting Fairy-types and Substitute users. Hydro Pump and Thunderbolt are alternative coverage moves Dragalge can use on its Choice Specs set, but they hit nothing outside of specific targets such as Camerupt and Mantine.

Checks & Counters
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**Bulky Steel-types**: Probopass, Steelix, and Ferroseed can switch into every move Dragalge carries bar Focus Blast, but the defensive set can easily set up Toxic Spikes against them.

**Audino**: Audino doesn't like taking Draco Meteor and Focus Blast but can act as a pivot switch against Choice Specs variants to see what Dragalge locks itself into. Be careful, however, because the defensive set uses it as setup fodder for Toxic Spikes.

**Bulky Ground-types**: Rhydon, Camerupt, and Seismitoad fear almost nothing from defensive Dragalge and can set up Stealth Rock or threaten it with Earthquake. They are also decent checks to the Choice Specs set if they manage to switch into Sludge Bomb or Hidden Power Fire.

**Psychic-types**: While they do not enjoy switching into repeated attacks because of their lack of reliable recovery, Psychic-types such as Uxie and Mesprit are decent checks to Dragalge, as they have huge special bulk and can threaten it with their Psychic STAB moves.

**Offensive pressure and residual damage**: As Dragalge lacks recovery outside of Rest and is vulnerable to all forms of entry hazards bar Toxic Spikes, it is worn down quite easily by offensive teams that can heavily pressure it with repeated attacks.

 

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Overview
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Dragalge is arguably the best Dragon-type in the NU metagame. Thanks to its high stats outside of Speed, very good typing, and nice offensive coverage, Dragalge is capable of serving multiple roles in a lot of different team archetypes. Its Choice Specs set, for example, can hit very hard with Draco Meteor for offensive teams, and the defensive set can set up Toxic Spikes for balanced ones while checking a very wide range of threats, including most Fire-, Water-, and Grass-types. However, Dragalge is very slow, meaning that it often has to take two hits a hit before moving, and as it has no reliable recovery, it is easily worn down by repeated attacks and entry hazards.

Choice Specs
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name: Choice Specs
move 1: Draco Meteor
move 2: Sludge Bomb
move 3: Focus Blast
move 4: Dragon Pulse / Scald
ability: Poison Point
item: Choice Specs
evs: 204 HP / 252 SpA / 52 Spd
nature: Modest

Moves
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Draco Meteor is the most powerful STAB move Dragalge has, and it has stellar coverage in the NU metagame. Sludge Bomb hits Fairy-types immune to Draco Meteor for super effective damage and is a more reliable move to be locked into. The higher chance to poison is preferred over the higher amount of power Sludge Wave has, but the second though Sludge Wave can still be used to hit slightly harder and to hit the uncommon Quilladin, which, thanks to its Bulletproof ability, is immune to Sludge Bomb. Focus Blast hits the Steel-types that resist both of Dragalge's STABs STAB moves for super effective damage and allows Dragalge to 2HKO Lickilicky and Audino. Hidden Power Fire can be used instead as a more accurate option to deal with Ferroseed, but it does the same damage though it hits Ferroseed as hard as Focus Blast does. Dragon Pulse is an accurate Dragon STAB move that is very useful against Ground- and Poison-types if you can't afford to lock Dragalge into Draco Meteor. Note, however, that two Draco Meteors are more powerful than two Dragon Pulses, even when factoring in the Special Attack drop. Scald is an option in the last slot for the burn chance and as a more accurate way of hitting Rhydon and bulky Ground-types hard.

Set Details
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The given Speed EVs allow Dragalge to outspeed uninvested Pokemon with base 50 Speed Pokemon, such as Vileplume and Granbull. Dragalge's Special Attack is maximized, and the remaining EVs are put in bulk HP to let Dragalge take hits from Grass- and Water-types better. Choice Specs is the item of choice, as it gives a massive power boost to moves such as Draco Meteor.

Usage Tips
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Dragalge should be switched into defensive Water-types, such as Qwilfish and Poliwrath, and Poison-types, such as Garbodor and Weezing, as they provide the best opportunities to fire off attacks. Grass-types such as Lilligant and Vileplume also provide good opportunities to switch in, if Sleep Clause is in effect. Recklessly spam Draco Meteor if the opponent doesn't have any Fairy-types, as it is very strong powerful and can do sizable damage even to Pokemon that resist it if they don't invest in Special Defense, such as Steelix.

Team Options
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Mesprit pairs quite well with Dragalge, as it is a great switch-in to Pokemon that check Dragalge, such as Ground-types. It; it can also set up Stealth Rock for Dragalge's team. Entry hazard support, especially Spikes, can really wear down Dragalge's checks. Good Pokemon for that role are include Crustle and Garbodor. Ferroseed also has awesome defensive synergy with Dragalge and thus is a good choice for more balanced teams. Feraligatr is another good partner, as Dragalge gets a free switch in on most of its checks, such as Qwilfish and Vileplume, to then fire off a Draco Meteor. Slurpuff, especially the Belly Drum variant, is also a good choice, as Dragalge can easily lure in Steel-types like such as Ferroseed, Probopass, and Steelix and smack them with a Focus Blast.

Defensive
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name: Defensive
move 1: Toxic Spikes
move 2: Dragon Tail
move 3: Sludge Bomb
move 4: Protect / Dragon Pulse
ability: Poison Point
item: Black Sludge
evs: 248 HP / 192 Def / 68 SpD
nature: Calm / Sassy


Moves
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Toxic Spikes is the main move on the set, as Dragalge finds quite a few opportunities to set them up. Dragon Tail is a STAB phazing move to deal with bulky setup sweepers that might try to set up while Dragalge uses Toxic Spikes and aren't particularly threatened by any of Dragalge's moves, such as Feraligatr. Sludge Bomb is a reliable STAB move to hit the Grass-types Dragalge checks, such as Sceptile and Lilligant. Protect is the main move in the last slot because of its usefulness in stalling for Toxic damage, gaining extra Black Sludge recovery, and scouting Choice-locked attackers, but Dragon Pulse is a perfectly viable choice to hit Poison- and Ground-types that, which fear nothing from Dragalge, such as Sandslash and Garbodor. Scald is also a viable choice because of its useful chance to burn, but it is pitifully weak without investment. Alternatively, a RestTalk set can be used as a more reliable way to recover HP and to make Dragalge a sleep absorber that can better deal with the likes of Lilligant, but Dragalge really struggles to find room in its movesets and such a set would be very passive.

Set Details
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68 Special Defense EVs and a positive nature let Dragalge avoid the 2HKO from Choice Specs Pyroar after Stealth Rock and Protect and from Life Orb Ludicolo's Ice Beam if Stealth Rock is not up. The remaining EVs are put into Defense to let Dragalge sponge resisted physical hits much better and take less damage from Magmortar's Earthquake. A more specially defensive spread can be used to take on special Water- and Fire-types such as Typhlosion, Pyroar, and Ludicolo even better, but that makes Dragalge more prone to mixed Magmortar and it becomes more difficult to sponge repeated physical hits, even if they are resisted. The choice between Calm and Sassy is really a matter of preference; the former lets Dragalge outspeed base 40s Pokemon with base 40 Speed and the latter gives Dragalge a stronger Dragon Tail. Black Sludge works very well with Protect and is Dragalge's only way to recover HP.

Usage Tips
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Dragalge easily switches into defensive Grass- and Water-types and can set up Toxic Spikes on them for free. You can use Protect freely against Pokémon Pokemon that don't normally carry setup moves and against Choice-locked attackers, but be careful using it against setup sweepers such as Feraligatr. Dragalge is also a great switch-in to Fire-type attacks and can take on most Fire-types if it doesn't switch into coverage moves.

Team Options
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Ferroseed is an awesome partner for Dragalge, as it can set up Stealth Rock and Spikes for Dragalge to rack up even more damage with Dragon Tail. It also has great synergy with it, resisting Dragalge's Psychic weakness and beating most Ground-types. In return, Dragalge resists both Ferroseed's Fighting and Fire weaknesses. Audino and Lickilicky complement Dragalge very well, providing Wish and Heal Bell support and offering another strong check to special attackers. Bulky Water-types like such as Seismitoad and Poliwrath can switch into the bulky Ground- and Steel-types that otherwise are able to freely switch into Dragalge and force them out.

Other Options
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Dragalge can use an offensive Toxic Spikes set with maximum Special Attack investment, but it is usually outclassed in that role by Garbodor and Qwilfish. Haze is an option on the defensive set, but Dragon Tail outclasses it outside of hitting Fairy-types and Substitute users. Hydro Pump and Thunderbolt are alternative coverage moves Dragalge can use on its Choice Specs set, but they hit nothing outside of specific targets such as Camerupt and Mantine.

Checks & Counters
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**Bulky Steel-types**: Probopass, Steelix, and Ferroseed can switch into every move Dragalge carries bar Focus Blast, but the defensive set can easily set up Toxic Spikes against them.

**Audino**: Audino doesn't like taking Draco Meteor and Focus Blast but can act as a pivot switch against Choice Specs variants to see what Dragalge locks itself into. Be careful, however, because the defensive set uses it as setup fodder for Toxic Spikes.

**Bulky Ground-types**: Rhydon, Camerupt, and Seismitoad fear almost nothing from defensive Dragalge and can set up Stealth Rock or threaten it with Earthquake. They are also decent checks to the Choice Specs set if they manage to switch into Sludge Bomb or Hidden Power Fire.

**Psychic-types**: While they do not enjoy switching into repeated attacks because of their lack of reliable recovery, Psychic-types such as Uxie and Mesprit are decent checks to Dragalge, as they have huge special bulk and can threaten it with their Psychic STAB moves.

**Offensive pressure and residual damage**: As Dragalge lacks recovery outside of Rest and is vulnerable to all forms of entry hazards bar Toxic Spikes, it is worn down quite easily by offensive teams that can heavily pressure it with repeated attacks.

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