There are a lot of viable scarfers out there...
Talking about ghost type, I even like gastly more than abra. It has better typing, access to destiny bond(free kill), better moves in general and an immunity(levitate). Abra may have better stats and access to psyshock (if you want to wreck special walls), but imo gastly is better.
If you want to contribute to the discussion, can you please give reasons for your thinking and not just state things outright and expect people to agree with them?
As mentioned before, Abra is faster than just about the whole Metagame. Abra is also quite capable of bypassing priority with a MG focus sash, and despite Kangaskhan going through that, it doesn't make it not broken. Just because something can be checked does not mean it's not banworthy. I plan on banning things on factors such as whether they over-centralize the metagame (Abra), if they are capable of invalidating a playstyle (Cranidos), or if they are impossible to check / counter while still providing a constant threat (Gastly.)
we are by no means banning all offensive threats. Its also generally accepted by every smogmod that a defensively focused meta is less bad than an offensively focused one.
Yeah, I don't get why either of them are banned. If there are alot of counters for them, then why are they considered overcentralizing. With previous argument I couldn't really figure out why, just that it is. Maybe someone could explain?
Abra and Gastly don't have lots of counters. There is one pokemon that can successfully wall both of them (Drowzee), and it's beaten by specs Gastly.
I used Kyogre and Mantyke and they worked just fine
Thunderbolt is learned by both of them.
252+ SpA Abra Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Kyogre: 178-210 (44 - 51.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
Huh, I guess it's only Gastly that gets Tbolt. Still, that doesn't change whether the council find Abra broken or not.
Marill has less good STAB however...
About the spelling mistakes, point them out and I'll fix them :). Also, about the ORAS megas, I need more testing with them, and will also consult people and allow people to post arguments in the thread.
