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  • SpDef Hippowdon beats subCM Jirachi. prob the best counter you could get aside from EQ gastro
    oh wow then you're across the ocean somewhere right? where do you live?
    also, if you're up for it, we can battle on PO right now, but I think PS will lag too hard (our internet isn't so hot), but wow that's early! i just got out of school!
    yeah go ahead the Jirachi submission is fine, but idk about Thunder Wave vs. Body Slam; I guess it's fine. And I'm at school right now, and internet's usually pretty laggy, so either we can battle later around 9ish when the server has less activity or on PO.
    I don't really care about the usage (rank 8 what the hell is Haruno smoking?), Haruno is being an idiot. All I'm saying is that we don't need counters for everything that exists. For example, Arceus-Normal is a huge threat in the metagame, but we just got a check, possibly a counter (Terrakion). Kyogre is a huge threat, but we just got a check (Latios). Darkrai would fare perfectly against Arceus-Ghost, and Dialga is a good check for it, so I think we're fine with that. The usage argument was just a way of saying the above, that we don't need hard counters for everything. For example, Kyurem-W has no true counters, but we aren't going to slap on a Blissey, because a lot of other things can beat it.
    Mandibuzz is okay, I suppose, but it doesn't do all that much outside of countering Arceus-Ghost. Also, what the hell does Haruno mean by "I don't get how we can even propose checks when your definition of "uncommon" is anything that is below rank 7 in usage......"? I proposed a check? You proposed a check? He hasn't proposed shit?
    ugh I'm getting tired of how the CCAT is going. every single way of getting around Arceus-Ghost keeps getting shot down. no matter what's suggested, people keep finding faults, especially Haruno, who doesn't submit ANYTHING. ughhh i wish they would realize that Arceus-Ghost isn't unbeatable and with enough pressure/some phazing+entry hazard damage, we can beat it.

    and yeah I didn't really like OU because of the huge bandwagon for Rain. I'm trying to get back into OU with a sand team, and I'm REALLY rusty ugh :P
    oh I'm mainly an Ubers player. I used to play OU back in DPPt and BW1, but the metagame is simply too boring, and I prefer the hyperoffense style of Ubers. (Stall is boring). Ubers keeps you on your toes!
    Take this from an objective standpoint: the only thing he's done is told us we're unoriginal. No sets were posts except for dual screens Arceus which is basically garbage,
    Arceus can revenge kill, and Kyogre can just go for the Surf. Surf + ES + LO recoil kills Rayquaza. Just keep hitting it lol, and it doesnt like SR
    ask shrang imo, ugh Arceus beats DD ray, and it can't setup on anyone. Groudon beats DD ray.
    yo regarding the CCAT, I'm just generally kind of tired of the negativity from Haruno as well as the lack of contribution from him/her. read my @Haruno post if you want to and tell me if what i said is true or not. thanks for all your contributions! it means a lot! :) GOOOOOOOO
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