Base Stats, Move Data, Egg Moves, and Dream World Abilities

[probationsmack]

[M557]: Fire Physical Power: 180 / Accuracy: 95
wonder what's the downside of this

[M558]: Fire Special Power: 100 / Accuracy: 100
[M559]: Electric Physical Power: 100 / Accuracy: 100
Wonder if these have downsides and/or limited to legends, because if not great moves.

Whats the point of a special fire attack with only 5 bp higher than flamethrower? Oh gamefreak.

 

[pux]

So does this confirm that Serebii made a mistake with the new BSTs on his site?

 

[Colonel Darren]

So, by this chart....Pokabu's evolution learns Head Smash. Geez.

 

[Inevitable]

Whats the point of a special fire attack with only 5 bp higher than flamethrower? Oh gamefreak.

meh this is probably the legendary special move belonging to Zekrom

this was also with 4th gen with dragon pulse having 90 base power and spacial rend having 95 base power.

my guess is that the 180 power fire move will be a move like giga impact. :P

 

[probationsmack]

meh this is probably the legendary special move belonging to Zekrom

this was also with 4th gen with dragon pulse having 90 base power and spacial rend having 95 base power.

my guess is that the 180 power fire move will be a move like giga impact. :P

Physical Blast Burn with more power? It sounds like a legendary attack for sure.

 

[Random Rider]

meh this is probably the legendary special move belonging to Zekrom

this was also with 4th gen with dragon pulse having 90 base power and spacial rend having 95 base power.

my guess is that the 180 power fire move will be a move like giga impact. :P

According to Howabe, it "Lower's user's Defense, Special Defense and Speed". If that's true, it will probably be the most broken attack in the game. Imagine a Choice banded 180 base power move!

 

[RacingFerret]

Hang on, there is a move that changes your opponents type to water? Interesting...

 

[Blackcharizard]

Why do the pokemon go over 649? are they formes or something?

 

[Random Rider]

Why do the pokemon go over 649? are they formes or something?

Mario already did it, but so it's easier to read:

650 aka Deoxys-a: Psychic 50/180/20/180/20/150
651 aka Deoxys-d: Psychic 50/70/160/70/160/90
652 aka Deoxys-s: Psychic 50/95/90/95/90/180
653 aka Wormadam Ground Cloak: Bug/Ground 60/79/105/59/85/36
654 aka Wormadam Trash Cloak: Bug/Steel 60/69/95/69/95/36
655 aka Shaymin Sky Forme: Grass/Flying 100/103/75/120/75/127
656 aka Giratina Origin Forme: Ghost/Dragon 150/120/100/120/100/90
657 aka Rotom Toaster: Electric/Fire 50/65/107/105/107/86
658 aka Rotom Washer: Electric/Water 50/65/107/105/107/86
659 aka Rotom Fridge: Electric/Ice 50/65/107/105/107/86
660 aka Rotom Fan: Electric/Flying 50/65/107/105/107/86
661 aka Rotom Mow: Electric/Grass 50/65/107/105/107/86
662 aka Castform in sun: Fire 70/70/70/70/70/70
663 aka Castform in rain: Water 70/70/70/70/70/70
664 aka Castform in Hail: Ice 70/70/70/70/70/70
665 aka Basurao (pretty sure): Water 70/92/65/80/55/98
666 aka Hihidaruma's Daruma Mode: Fire/Psychic 105/30/105/140/105/55
667 aka Meroetta with a hat: Normal/Fighting 100/128/90/77/77/128

 

[Erebyssial]

I skimmed through the list of old moves real quick, some notable changes: Thrash and Petal Dance are 120 power, Toxic is 90 accuracy and Hi Jump Kick increased to 130 power(!). Giga Drain is also the move that increased to 75 power, not Mega Drain.

 

[IcyMan28]

612: Lv1: Scratch, Lv1: Leer, Lv1: Assurance, Lv1: Dragon Rage, Lv4: Leer, Lv7: Assurance, Lv10: Dragon Rage, Lv13: [M530], Lv16: Scary Face, Lv20: Slash, Lv24: False Swipe, Lv28: Dragon Claw, Lv32: Dragon Dance, Lv36: Taunt, Lv42: Dragon Pulse, Lv50: Swords Dance, Lv58: Guillotine, Lv66: Outrage, Lv74: Giga Impact

Ononokusu gets both Dragon Dance and Swords Dance.

 

[Gabezilla]

[M528]: Electric Physical Power: 90 / Accuracy: 100

YES!!!

 

[the voice of reason]

130 base power?
Wow, gamefreak must really want us to use hi jump kick! Medicham, anyone?

 

[IcyMan28]

Blaziken: Lv1: Fire Punch, Lv1: Hi Jump Kick, Lv1: Scratch, Lv1: Growl, Lv1: Focus Energy, Lv1: Ember, Lv7: Focus Energy, Lv13: Ember, Lv16: Double Kick, Lv17: Peck, Lv21: Sand-Attack, Lv28: Bulk Up, Lv32: Quick Attack, Lv36: Blaze Kick, Lv42: Slash, Lv49: Brave Bird, Lv59: Sky Uppercut, Lv66: Flare Blitz

Hi Jump Kick: Fighting Physical Power: 130 / Accuracy: 90

Step aside, Infernape. Blaziken has returned to resume wallbreaking.

 

[the voice of reason]

Icicle spear is now 25 base power. 125 with skill link. Cloyster may make a few niche appearances in OU with a reliable 125 base power physical ice attack.

 

[thelaytonmobile]

"Changes target's ability to Simple" "Raises Atk, Def, Spd by 1" "Raises SpAtk, SpDef, Spd by 1". Maybe kinda broken in doubles?

 

[Nanoswine]

[M558]: Fire Special Power: 100 / Accuracy: 100
[M559]: Electric Physical Power: 100 / Accuracy: 100
Wonder if these have downsides and/or limited to legends, because if not great moves.

These look to me like Cross Fire and Thunder or whatever, the're right next to eachother and physical for Zekrom, special for Reshi.

 

[btb]

[M557]: Fire Physical Power: 180 / Accuracy: 95

I bet Hihidaruma gets this. I hope Ononokusu doesn't...

 

[b07]

so, if im reading these right, this dragon, 635: Dark/Dragon 92/105/90/125/90/98, learns a stat up move at lvl 38 that ups Atk and SpA one stage? i was kind of hoping it would be the special equivalent of d-dance, but this will more easily allow it to be a mixed sweeper, albeit with just low enough speed for things to come in and outspeed it without the need of a scarf. plus, this new stat up move might turn into an egg move for various other dragons, (dragonite, maybe?) which seems like it would benefit from this move just as much, seeing as it has priority to stop checks coming in, with a +1 under its belts.

this guy sounds really exciting, and somewhat of a player in the new meta, already. if he learns any priority move (sucker punch!~) he will be way good.

 

[RBG]

[M557]: Fire Physical Power: 180 / Accuracy: 95

For the record, no Pokemon get the move via level up.

Tutor Move?

 

[Purimpopoie]

[M557]: Fire Physical Power: 180 / Accuracy: 95

For the record, no Pokemon get the move via level up.

Tutor Move?

Or a TM Move, like Overheat.

 

[Intro1827]

I think it's Victini's special move that isn't on its level up learnlist

 

[Random Rider]

[M557]: Fire Physical Power: 180 / Accuracy: 95

For the record, no Pokemon get the move via level up.

Tutor Move?

Dear Arceus, if howabe is right about its effects and it becomes a tutor move...this is going to be a scary metagame, don't you think?

 

[Pratty]

I'm liking Victini already. Mixed attacker w/ Overheat/Flare Blitz, not to mention whatever TM/HM moves it learns?

EDIT: Oh god, Emboar gets Head Smash. Head Smash/Flare Blitz/Arm Hammer/???

 

[probationsmack]

Icicle spear is now 25 base power. 125 with skill link. Cloyster may make a few niche appearances in OU with a reliable 125 base power physical ice attack.

Easily a reliable sub breaker now. Especially with spike cannon. Does cloyster get rock blast too?