271st, with 20 uses. He deserves more love.I'm to lazy, but where is magikarp in ubers usage?
271st, with 20 uses. He deserves more love.I'm to lazy, but where is magikarp in ubers usage?
In the latest usage stats, Togekiss is 68th in OU at 2.3205. I'm also fairly certain it wasn't OU in whatever usage stats currently assign tiering. Those people you are playing are just wrong. My guess is that they're looking at the list from D/P and failing to realize it's out of date.I keep dealing with a bunch of randoms saying "TOGEKISS IS OU CHEATER."
well.. which is it?
That's what im saying. Hell.. even in UU it's below the high usage.In the latest usage stats, Togekiss is 68th in OU at 2.3205. I'm also fairly certain it wasn't OU in whatever usage stats currently assign tiering. Those people you are playing are just wrong. My guess is that they're looking at the list from D/P and failing to realize it's out of date.
Wow!, I don't remember using Mawile THAT much ._.!| 204 | Mawile | 1108 | 0.1825 |
Garchomp was arguably, their best sweeper, if not one of their best. I don't think it was so much sand holding rain down, more or less, it was a combination of more people realizing how good rain in general was, and having one of rain's worst match-ups lose a really threatening poke.How is charizard anywhere near the top of Ubers usage anyway?
With that many noobs around, I think I've finally found a tier I'd be decent in...
Also, I can't believe that Garchomp was keeping rain down THAT much. I mean Politoed leaped into the top 5 right when he leaves? I just don't see how he was that big of a deterrent to rain team usage.
Or maybe people finally realized how goddamn powerful rain is, and it's all just a coincidence. Eh, either way I'm not using it; losing consistently is the only obstacle for my current team! Clear Skies for life!
Gyarados and Slowbro as well. [They resist Waterfall and Superpower, and have the bulk to take a possible Return]Azu is wonderful, esp on rain teams. I like to max out on attack cos it just hits so hard. The only thing you have to worry about is jellicent.
Well, it is the only place you an use Blaziken, so I guess Blaziken dosen't count.I hate how Ubers is full of noobs, I don't play it but everytime that I want to watch an Uber battle there's a Charizard involved (or some starter)
Those kinds of teams get shut down quite easily with a Kyogre.Eh, Charizard isn't terrible if you're making a hyper-offensive Sun team...
| 399 | Lickitung | 3 | 0.0127 |
| 400 | Kricketune | 3 | 0.0127 |
| 401 | Kadabra | 3 | 0.0127 |
| 402 | Jigglypuff | 3 | 0.0127 |
| 403 | Huntail | 3 | 0.0127 |
| 404 | Gastly | 3 | 0.0127 |
| 405 | Eevee | 3 | 0.0127 |
| 406 | Dewott | 3 | 0.0127 |
| 407 | Corsola | 3 | 0.0127 |
| 408 | Charmeleon | 3 | 0.0127 |
| 409 | Basculin | 3 | 0.0127 |
| 410 | Amoonguss | 3 | 0.0127 |
| 411 | Zweilous | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 412 | Wailmer | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 413 | Vespiquen | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 414 | Vanilluxe | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 415 | Swablu | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 416 | Spearow | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 417 | Simipour | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 418 | Scraggy | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 419 | Psyduck | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 420 | Poochyena | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 421 | Oshawott | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 422 | Meditite | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 423 | Magby | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 424 | Litwick | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 425 | Larvesta | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 426 | Koffing | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 427 | Kabuto | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 428 | Hoppip | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 429 | Grotle | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 430 | Golbat | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 431 | Gible | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 432 | Fraxure | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 433 | Finneon | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 434 | Emolga | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 435 | Elekid | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 436 | Croagunk | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 437 | Clamperl | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 438 | Carnivine | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 439 | Beheeyem | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 440 | Azurill | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 441 | Ariados | 2 | 0.0085 |
| 442 | Weedle | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 443 | Vibrava | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 444 | Unown | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 445 | Tentacool | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 446 | Snover | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 447 | Skitty | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 448 | Shellder | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 449 | Sentret | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 450 | Seaking | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 451 | Pineco | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 452 | Pidgey | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 453 | Panpour | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 454 | Oddish | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 455 | Nosepass | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 456 | Metapod | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 457 | Meowth | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 458 | Marshtomp | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 459 | Mankey | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 460 | Loudred | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 461 | Ledian | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 462 | Larvitar | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 463 | Kirlia | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 464 | Horsea | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 465 | Gurdurr | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 466 | Graveler | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 467 | Gothorita | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 468 | Gabite | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 469 | Foongus | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 470 | Feebas | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 471 | Fearow | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 472 | Chimchar | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 473 | Caterpie | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 474 | Buizel | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 475 | Boldore | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 476 | Beedrill | 1 | 0.0042 |
| 477 | Axew | 1 | 0.0042 |
Yeah it was sarcasm. And while I may not know too much about ubers, how does Kyogre handle Ho-oh brave bird on those teams?Those kinds of teams get shut down quite easily with a Kyogre.
@alphatron: pray tell that was sarcasm lol
Oh wow, Kyogre shuts down Sun teams without an answer to it? What an interesting find, I would have never realized it if it weren't you.Those kinds of teams get shut down quite easily with a Kyogre.
Well with my experiences in OU it's used as a BP reciever quite often because you can't Phaze it out without Dragon Tail, and while Ubers is technically a different metagame I don't really see it doing much else. After all (assuming a ShellPass) Espeon does 2HKO/OHKO a lot of commonly Uber pokemon.First of all, thanks for the stats and time you put here, RD! This may sound nothing but generic now.
Okay, so what's Espeon doing in Ubers? Granted, it didn't get much usage there compared to authentic Uber Pokemon, but still, the fact that it's right up there is intreaging. I know Espeon is fairly amazing, but...not this amazing.
My theory is that Espeon users value near-unstoppable Screen support for set up sweepers such as Swords Dance Groudon, who's still up there to beat Ferrothorn + Kyogre.
Also Espeon has it's own place in OU. It's amazing, but wow, he actually made it. Props to people for realizing Latias' potential as well.