Yeah. I just remembered about the lvl 50 thing... but on PO, I don't think the system recognizes it if you put in the moveset then change it to lvl 50...
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Well it only applies to Gen 5 Lvl up moves that come after lvl 50 and only if used with a Gen 4 Tutor/TM. I think it will rarely matter as not a lot Pokemon gained useful moves in their Lvl Up move pools.
For IR battles, there's an option to cap levels at 50 while retaining "No Restrictions" rules for everything else (6v6, same items allowed, all Pokémon allowed) so someone can just suggest to "pretend" like that's the case for whatever simulator you people use for this metagame.
Ehh... But mostly people use wi-fi or PO (Cuz pokemon players don't have any friends XDD jkjk), and the Flat Battle rule on wi-fi is trash (Only lets you use 3 pokes) so honestly, you MUST have your pokemon at EXACTLY level 50 if you want to play Wi-Fi MC.
If Wartortle really is the only spinner, stall is going to rape this meta. Set down shitloads of hazards, then proceed to stall with bulky Eviolite 'mons, while NFE offensive Pokemon fall while fighting. Taunt and Magic Guard are good ways of keeping hazards off, but require prediction. If you predict, wrong, those hazards are getting up, and Wartortle falls to Roselia. This'll be interesting.
Speed Boost Combusken will be so broken in this metagame.
Also, why not just fight at Lv. 100? It's the default level anyways.
I might give it a shot sometime.
Also, why not just fight at Lv. 100? It's the default level anyways.
I might give it a shot sometime.
I'd imagine Duosion can wreck this tier with a CM set. Unless you run Knock Off. Let's see, for MG users you have Clefairy, Kadabra, (unreleased) and Duosion. Wow, not much but I'd imagine one of these 3 (errr 2) is a must have on any team that fears stall. Also, DD Dragonair might actually work. Shedrest along with Outrage, DD, and Waterfall. is there anything that resists water / dragon in this tier?
Also, on a side note. FUUU! I already had my team made in the cartridge games but I leveled them up to level 100 ;_; Oh well, at least there's some friendly editors here and there that i know ha ha! Anyway, this tier should become official imo.
Also, on a side note. FUUU! I already had my team made in the cartridge games but I leveled them up to level 100 ;_; Oh well, at least there's some friendly editors here and there that i know ha ha! Anyway, this tier should become official imo.
Air Slash would probably be better than Metronome, since there's also a chance to get Explosion/Self Destruct/Healing Wish/Memento/generally weak moves. Air Slash lets Togetic go on the offence itself, so can do something if it's your last Pokemon. Substitute could also work as a more defensive action.
That said, I haven't played this tier at all, so this is pure theorymon.
Combusken(Bulk Up, Agility, Swords Dance, Hone Claws) and Swadloon(Agility, Calm Mind) can also use Baton Pass.
No reliable phazers? There HAS to be a few things that learn Roar, Whirlwind, or Dragon Tail.
Shelgon? Doesn't he get wish and have shed skin as his ability? If so I'd imagine he'd be hell to take down.
edit: Nvm, he has rock head. I always thought he had shed skin for the oddest reason
Pilowsine looks like the bulkiest Phazer in this tier, but here's a list of all the Pokemon that can learn phazing moves:
MC Pokemon capable of using Roar: Croconaw, Fraxure, Gabite, Herdier, Krokorok, Lairon, Loudred, Luxio, Pignite, Pilowswine, Quilava, Rhydon, Sealeo, Shelgon, Vigoroth, Zweilous
MC Pokemon capable of using Whirlwind: Golbat, Pidgeotto, Staravia
MC Pokemon capable of using Dragon Tail: Rhydon, Zweilous
MC Pokemon capable of using Circle Throw: Loudred
Lairon could also be used, with an immunity to Poison and decent Physical defence, but it has low Special Defense and 4X weaknesses to Fighting and Ground.
Well, what do you know. Substitute is still an option, though. Ominous Wind/Silver Wind could also work, or could be used instead of Ancient Power for different coverage(Ancient Power would probably be the better move, but they're options).
Just so everybody realizes this, Analytic P2 is illegal with Tri Attack in this tier. After gen3, the Porygon line learned Tri Attack at level 51.
Also, I ran a Rain team last gen. Specs Seadra was absolutely amazing and pretty much OHKOd everything with Surf/Hydro Pump. The only SwSw Pokemon are Lombre and Palpitoad though.
Also, I ran a Rain team last gen. Specs Seadra was absolutely amazing and pretty much OHKOd everything with Surf/Hydro Pump. The only SwSw Pokemon are Lombre and Palpitoad though.
theres poliwhirl :P also, chansey and poliwhirl with water absorb say hi.
also, i dont see how tri attack is illegal. if its a level up move, it can get anything with heart scale. also, trace/ download is infinitely better.
He's saying that since they learn Tri-Attack at level 51, it can't be used as your Pokémon can only be level 50 (which should be changed to 100, IMO).
I didn't see that Poliwhirl got Swift Swim. Throw in Belly Drum and it seems like it might work. Its stats are too low otherwise.
LC has the Pomeg glitch. Your argument is invalid.
Oh god yes Piloswine. He looks awesome in this tier. Great bulk and good offense + stab attacks.
Also, many of the 3 stage steels/dragons look like they could be powerful forces in this tier.
Also, many of the 3 stage steels/dragons look like they could be powerful forces in this tier.
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