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Battle Mechanics Research
- Thread starter ΩDonut
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Trapping moves in general do not affect ghost types. They are free to switch out no matter what trap is used (Mean look, Arena Trap, Shadow Tag, Magnet Pull etc.)
I'm assuming they can also switch out during Infestation, Fire Spin, Bind and whatnot.
I've seen my Honedge switch out of a Sand Tomb.
So what I'm getting from this is that PS is wrong...? Since right not Magnet Pull traps Aegislash..
Don't trust PS. There's a lot of wrong mechanics on there, since it's just a simulator (and I don't think it's updated nearly as much as Showdown. We've know about Aegislash being able to switch out of Magnet Pull since like page 20 of this thread.)
So for now, which is the more updated simulator? PO or PS?
No, Mold Breaker negates any ability that makes the bearer's move not do full damage. That's why Fur Coat's being negated.
This is something that has been the case since 5th Gen I beleive. Wild Pokemon encounters cannot force you to flee from battle if they are lower level than your active Pokemon. This does not affect their ability to force switches in trainer battles however, as I've been forced to switch plenty of times from Team Flare members using Roar on one of my Pokemon.
I know about the Normal Gem in the Terminus Cave. However, there weren't any Normal Gems used in the Subway in the first place aside from that one Cinccino in normal subway, but I have yet to find it in the Maison since I don't play normal Maison after getting the 20Ws to unlock Super.
Nah, Rivalry wasn't affecting. I was fighting different egg groups so it wasn't in affect. That's why the damage from the Rivalry Axew was only 4.
Mario With Lasers ya haha, I noted that I was wrong with my edit.
Doesn't Rivalry only look at gender, not egg group?
Okay, I retested. Rivalry does read to say only gender so I'm avoiding that. Using Pancham this time. Sorry about that!
Quiet Iron Fist Pancham used Tackle and is dealing constant 3s to Furfrou. Quiet Mold Breaker Pancham used Tackle and did 5 damage constantly to Furfrou. Both Pancham are level 10 and have 22 Attack.
I think it can be more accurate so I'll level them up more and edit.
edit:
lvl 30 furfrou 87 hp 50 def
lvl 29 pancham 56 atk mold breaker
lvl 29 pancham 57 atk iron fist
both using strength
MB
-24 damage
-23 damage
-21 damage
-25 damage
-21 damage
IF
-12 damage
-12 damage
-13 damage
-11 damage
-12 damage
I can conclude that Furfrou's Fur Coat is negated by Mold Breaker.
Quiet Iron Fist Pancham used Tackle and is dealing constant 3s to Furfrou. Quiet Mold Breaker Pancham used Tackle and did 5 damage constantly to Furfrou. Both Pancham are level 10 and have 22 Attack.
I think it can be more accurate so I'll level them up more and edit.
edit:
lvl 30 furfrou 87 hp 50 def
lvl 29 pancham 56 atk mold breaker
lvl 29 pancham 57 atk iron fist
both using strength
MB
-24 damage
-23 damage
-21 damage
-25 damage
-21 damage
IF
-12 damage
-12 damage
-13 damage
-11 damage
-12 damage
I can conclude that Furfrou's Fur Coat is negated by Mold Breaker.
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In this case Sucker Punch doesn't hit the opponent (the move isn't executed) so it doesn't make contact and there isn't a stat drop
Sprocket
P(n) = 1 - (1 - P(1))^n
I tested this myself. Aegislash is NOT trapped by Magnet Pull.
Ok so the simulator is wrong for now. Thanks for the clarification.
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I've been testing the move Poison Fang. In previous generations it had a 30% chance to badly Poison the target. I noticed that serebii's attackdex listing said it was 50% yet it didn't appear in the "updated attacks" page, so I grabbed my Skorupi and tested it.
Here are the results (1 indicates a poisoning, 0 indicates no additional effect):
1100110110001101000111101111111100000
Sample size 37, badly poisonings 21.
So 21/37 = 56%. Obviously my sample size isn't large enough to say the exact rate, but it's obviously higher than the old 30% and serebii's number seems likely.
Here are the results (1 indicates a poisoning, 0 indicates no additional effect):
1100110110001101000111101111111100000
Sample size 37, badly poisonings 21.
So 21/37 = 56%. Obviously my sample size isn't large enough to say the exact rate, but it's obviously higher than the old 30% and serebii's number seems likely.
Tested just to be sure and can confirm that Unaware does not cancel boosts from Aerilate or Pixilate. Dont have Aurorus but its probably safe to assume its that same in Refrigerate's case.
Tests I'd like to know:
Since Keen Eyes ignores enemy evasion boosts, can someone test if Big Pecks ignores enemy attack boosts and Hyper Cutter ignores enemy defense boosts in similar fashion?
Also, can Klutz Lopunny get rid of an Assault Vest via Switcheroo? Or is Lopunny unavailable for now?
Since Keen Eyes ignores enemy evasion boosts, can someone test if Big Pecks ignores enemy attack boosts and Hyper Cutter ignores enemy defense boosts in similar fashion?
Also, can Klutz Lopunny get rid of an Assault Vest via Switcheroo? Or is Lopunny unavailable for now?
Yes, as Klutz completely ignores held items; Assault Vest's hold on status moves won't take effect.
we would ideally want to test this to make sure though. However, lopunny isn't available atm so we can't test it.
