I'm personally thrilled to see a few defensive Megas; I feel like GF has been trying their damnedest to make stall unviable as a playstyle, although that's probably useless kvetching on my part. M-Bro could be a problem, but its low speed and S.Def mean that strong special attackers might be able to break it, even after a CM. We might see a resurgence in everyone's least-used Choice item, Specs.I can see myself sighing loudly and pressing forfeit against mega slowbro much more than I will against mega salamence.
Slowbro has been taking the same steroids as swampert.
It will be a monster man. Swampert has so much going for it. It will be the star of every single rain team that will ever be created.Slowbro is looking like a real pain in the ass. Btw, what do you guys think about Mega Swampert? A rain dance set could be real strong, one turn of setting up to become a beast. I predict him hitting OU, BL at least.
GF wouldn't do that as it'd piss off a lot of people. The Stone will more than likely be transferable if they aren't available in ORAS.So I was wondering what happens on Showdown if X/Y megas are not transferable and if their stones are not found in OR/AS? Will there be separate tiers?
Showdown will def. allow both; I think we have enough tiers as it is. Remember that this is a game-within-a-game and that Smogon has been rectifying Gamefreak's, eh, failings for quite some time.So I was wondering what happens on Showdown if X/Y megas are not transferable and if their stones are not found in OR/AS? Will there be separate tiers?
To be honest, I believe the ORAS meta will shift towards buffs and phazers, maybe your set will work, maybe TW+Roar+Roost, we can't say for sure, still it has to be debated.A guily pleasure i had was restalk dd dtail. Who knows if this is posible to abuse with them fairies lurking around.
Mega Aggron is way better than Mega Steelix in almost everyway, so I really can't see it being used that muchTo be honest, I believe the ORAS meta will shift towards buffs and phazers, maybe your set will work, maybe TW+Roar+Roost, we can't say for sure, still it has to be debated.
The other offensive Megas lack, in my opinion, useful stuff. Coll M-Pidgeot can spam Hurricane outside the rain, but can he deal with undodgeable Stone Edge? Does his coverages are enough to make him at least B? or even OU? M-Loppuny has Fake Out who hits ghosts, that is also cool but has someone made the calcs? We see this 'promising' bullshit everywhere, just look at Electivire!
The non full offense Megas in the other hand seems to be made to wreck the meta as we know, M-Slowbro, M-Steelix, M-Sableye (who may not have the greatest HP but still has the Recover), M-Altaria, M-Audino... I believe this meta will be most cool to play since G2.
Pidgeot is fine. It looks really good for UU and will probably be about as useful as Tornadus-T in OU, somewhere around B rank maybe. Plus Altaria has a shot at being a pretty versatile beastie. I love me some birds too, and the ones we got are solid even if they aren't Salamence or Slowbro quality Megas.All these super powered pokémon... It seems as if 110 is the new 100 lol
All I want is a proper bird mega :'((( do I have to wait until gen 4 remakes??
Crunch seems good with mega bro running around but ice fang would be nice for mega mence so... i guess it's up to youCan we talk about mega gyarados getting crunch? Will this help or is it redundant coverage?
Every time I have used mega dos (Which I admit is not that much) waterfall, eq, dd and sub/taunt has been perfect. Even on the purely offensive dd set wouldn't ice fang be better for coverage?
It'll be very limited in use, but crunch will need to be a thing for slowbro and is the best option gyarados currently has for ferrothorn.Can we talk about mega gyarados getting crunch? Will this help or is it redundant coverage?
Every time I have used mega dos (Which I admit is not that much) waterfall, eq, dd and sub/taunt has been perfect. Even on the purely offensive dd set wouldn't ice fang be better for coverage?
The lack of new moves for Mega Pidgeot really is a crime. Keeps it from being truly great, but it has enough to get by. It looks like a decently useful combination of offensive pivot/cleaner and offensive utility. Like Mega Manectric mixed with Mega Blastoise in a Tornadus Therian flavored package. UU will probably make a nice home for it. It hits a good speed tier and hits hard enough thanks to it's high power STAB. Far from garbage.Don't get me wrong is not like they're super bad, it's just that they're kind of underwhelming... oh well, i'm sure we're bound to get Mega Talon in a couple of years! :D
I think Glalie and Slowbro are a bit low while Latios is way too high. I just don't see a reason to use mega latios over the base form to be honest other than a gimmicky mixed ddance set that is outclassed by plenty of current dragons IMO.Okay so apparently Greninja gets Gunk Shot from tutors... This is pretty big IMO since it completely screws 2 of its biggest checks, Azumarill and Clefable. I don't think a fully physical set will be good at all, however, a mixed set with Gunk Shot may be a possibility. This one move really adds a lot to Greninja's versatility, narrowing down its list of checks making it harder to deal with. Heaven knows how many bulky offense teams I just slapped a SpD Clefable on to deal with Greninja, but :
0 Atk Life Orb Protean Greninja Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Clefable: 343-406 (87 - 103%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
What exactly am I supposed to use now, Chansey? Cresselia? I feel like a lot of balanced teams are going to have to stack checks to it which all lose to a certain coverage move, such as using Ferrothorn+Clefable+Mew, since I doubt any Greninja will run Gunk Shot+HP Fire+Dark Pulse. But yeah, this one tutor move really scares me, I don't know if I'm the only one here.
btw in the light of this new info I've revised where I think some of these megas will land :
MBeedrill : B-
MPidgeot : C-
MSlowbro : A/A+
MSteelix : Unranked
MSceptile : B+
MSwampert : B+/A-
MSableye : B+
MSharpedo : B-
MCamerupt : C
MAltaria : A/A+
MGlailie : Unranked/D
MSalamence : S++
MMetagross : S
MLatios : S
MLatias : S
MLopunny : B/B+
MGallade : B+/A-
MAudino : D/C-
MDiancie : A-/A