Ununhexium
I closed my eyes and I slipped away...
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Is this just going to go unanswered? I don't see how it would hurt the TDs to post the extent of their evidence, given that I'm sure it's more convincing than what was highlighted in this thread prior.There were like 50 users posting "evidence" (logs, creepy facebook stalking, etc) of style being an alt and nothing was done until the TD did some research with videos, IPs and shit. Mazar lost his trophy because someone showed you logs without context and you think the logs written in a language yo don't natively speak are accurate.
I'm not mazar's biggest fan (eg: 1, 2) but the lack of concrete evidence and double standards don't sit well with me. You are not supposed to believe what the people involved tell you, that's kinda really important, you are supposed to compile evidence and then decide how to proceed, which is what the TDs did to deal with Style's situation.
I thought there was some actual evidence somewhere, mostly because the accused people weren't even trying to defend themselves, and not just the meaningless skype logs cased got from a german that doesn't like Mazar.
Style is not comparable because that was a case of widespread cheating and corruption that was orchestrated by an admin of the site. We had to go through Senior Staff and present a case where even 99.9% wasn't good enough. Not all TDs felt that such lengths were necessary but it was something that we had little control over. Despite this we were able to delay the final and get Style removed before she could play so much as a single game after the evidence was provided, so to say that "nothing was done" seems a little unfair. Sure, some people were sceptical before the final but there was nothing close to real evidence, and at that time Bloo was able to play a part in any further examination due to not being a major suspect until much later.There were like 50 users posting "evidence" (logs, creepy facebook stalking, etc) of style being an alt and nothing was done until the TD did some research with videos, IPs and shit. Mazar lost his trophy because someone showed you logs without context and you think the logs written in a language yo don't natively speak are accurate.
I'm not mazar's biggest fan (eg: 1, 2) but the lack of concrete evidence and double standards don't sit well with me. You are not supposed to believe what the people involved tell you, that's kinda really important, you are supposed to compile evidence and then decide how to proceed, which is what the TDs did to deal with Style's situation.
I thought there was some actual evidence somewhere, mostly because the accused people weren't even trying to defend themselves, and not just the meaningless skype logs cased got from a german that doesn't like Mazar.
I understand the concern about not publicising all the information we have but it's not always wise to do so. We shared some of the evidence (although Someone else was going to do it anyway) to show that there was reasoning behind the action but complete transparency can sometimes come at a cost.Is this just going to go unanswered? I don't see how it would hurt the TDs to post the extent of their evidence, given that I'm sure it's more convincing than what was highlighted in this thread prior.