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NOC Paranoia Mafia Game Over - Mafia Wins
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This makes me lean townier on rssp, unless he's in a scumteam with Asek I can't see him casually clearing three people especially when one has had a lot of controversy about them and one has had some question marks, especially when it corresponds to my own reads.
Which leads to the following questions:
- What does town!rssp mean about the rest of the player pool?
- What does a rssp/asek/?? scum team look like?
Not sure about the second question, that would need some serious isos and thought, wrt the first question I'd reckon it makes Walrein look a bit worse, doesn't really affect twin, makes om room look slightly worse (personal bias?), and keeps aubisio/former unchanged as looking badly to me
I could see a situation where Aubisio was literally just that much of a noob town and the scum team was Former/Om Room/twin or walrein
Asek
Banned deucer.
I disliked the post tagging OM room and me to vote for dentricos to avoid a 50/50 and i also disliked the post at the end concurring with my former hope and aubisio scum chase indication
If former hope or aubisio gets lynched today and flips scum tho your deffo in the town circle. But as that hasn't happened i can't trust you atm.
I hate to break it to ya texas but I also provide what I think about the rest of the playerlist like two lines after the one you quoted
Yeah it's possible I suppose. I feel like i'm going after Aubisio for the same reasons I went after haruno which is kinda worrisome tbh given that haruno flipped town
Fair enough, although I was 100% convinced dentricos was scum at the time and was fairly sure that texas was town so I really didnt want a tie to happen
why would fh/aubisio flipping scum put me in the town circle?
I was also scumreading fh/aubisio at the time (and still am) which is why I concurred there.
also, what are your thoughts on om room?
Doesn't really matter what you think about the rest of the playerbase from that, it matters what you being town means about them in their interactions.
Had a couple thoughts and checked back through a couple posts, finding it curious that the thought I just had about a possible scumteam came back to a very similar possibility I though about on Tuesday here. This aubisio post scared me almost immediately, came off as super noob town which would make me more comfortable with that solve above
I dont understand what you mean but if it helps you find scum thats good I guess
Unlynch Aubisio, Lynch OM Room
these two are basically equivalent in my book and the more I think about it the less i'm comfortable with an Aubisio lynch (although that may just be me doubting my own scumreads more than anything else)
Unlynch Aubisio, Lynch OM Room
these two are basically equivalent in my book and the more I think about it the less i'm comfortable with an Aubisio lynch (although that may just be me doubting my own scumreads more than anything else)
taking care of this myself because dle went afk
Borath the Oscillator is subbing in for me.
This is not a joke.
Borath the Oscillator is subbing in for me.
This is not a joke.
Borath the Oscillator you are the best mafia player! I have faith :) show these boobs where it's at
41 pages at 25 PPP? Child's play.
Running through the calculations on my abacus, it would appear that's barely over 1000 posts.
I've made more posts in a single phase.
Running through the calculations on my abacus, it would appear that's barely over 1000 posts.
I've made more posts in a single phase.
While I wouldn't argue that I'm one of the four great pillars supporting the gates of Mafhalla, I must express to my disappointment that I am unaware of where it is at and am therefore unable to give proper directions to your boobs.
So anyway, ahoy there lads and lasses, my name is Borath but you can just call me Borath. I oscillate at regular intervals.
I must say that these are dark times we find ourselves in, dark times indeed, but with enough wit and moxie, with a touch of luck on the side, we can overcome. We must overcome! For the forces that conspire against us possess cowardice so vile it extends beyond the reaches of the mortal plane. Even in death they hide from us. Even in death they wait for victory.
But let me make myself clear: I do not respond well to cowards. As they slink and slunk and skirr about, shying from the glorious light of the sun (praise it), I know in my heart what I must do.
Not actually my heart of course, I gave up flesh and organs long ago to ascend into my full skeletal form. But the point is made. Somewhere in my chest cavity, a bright light shines forth. In its radiance I see what all brave combatants in this game of lies wishes to see:
I see victory, and I will claim it!
Join me, brothers, sisters, and others! Take up your steel, then cast it aside, for where we go weaponry is meaningless! Instead, unsheathe your pen. Then draw a horse. Ride this horse beside my own horse, and take your rightful place on the field of glory. We ride at dawn, the candles of our conquest burning brief yet burning bright. Follow me, friends. Follow me into the land of voting and deceit. Follow me into a world of chaos, with the pure clarity of truth fighting a battle most valorous to be seen, for it yearns for its own freedom. Follow me, those of you who follow the ways of Mafia, of Werewolf!
FOLLOW ME TO THE EDGE OF THIS BLIGHTED WORLD, UPON A TWISTED PATH PAVED IN SORROW AND ANGUISH! FOLLOW ME, FOR VICTORY LIES ON THE HORIZON!
That being said I've yet to read anything but the opening post, so gimme a few.
I must say that these are dark times we find ourselves in, dark times indeed, but with enough wit and moxie, with a touch of luck on the side, we can overcome. We must overcome! For the forces that conspire against us possess cowardice so vile it extends beyond the reaches of the mortal plane. Even in death they hide from us. Even in death they wait for victory.
But let me make myself clear: I do not respond well to cowards. As they slink and slunk and skirr about, shying from the glorious light of the sun (praise it), I know in my heart what I must do.
Not actually my heart of course, I gave up flesh and organs long ago to ascend into my full skeletal form. But the point is made. Somewhere in my chest cavity, a bright light shines forth. In its radiance I see what all brave combatants in this game of lies wishes to see:
I see victory, and I will claim it!
Join me, brothers, sisters, and others! Take up your steel, then cast it aside, for where we go weaponry is meaningless! Instead, unsheathe your pen. Then draw a horse. Ride this horse beside my own horse, and take your rightful place on the field of glory. We ride at dawn, the candles of our conquest burning brief yet burning bright. Follow me, friends. Follow me into the land of voting and deceit. Follow me into a world of chaos, with the pure clarity of truth fighting a battle most valorous to be seen, for it yearns for its own freedom. Follow me, those of you who follow the ways of Mafia, of Werewolf!
FOLLOW ME TO THE EDGE OF THIS BLIGHTED WORLD, UPON A TWISTED PATH PAVED IN SORROW AND ANGUISH! FOLLOW ME, FOR VICTORY LIES ON THE HORIZON!
That being said I've yet to read anything but the opening post, so gimme a few.
i'm dle and I approve of this message
OH
When you jump to it
And you can't go through it
And you can't knock it down
You know that you've found
THE WALL
THE WALL
THE WALL
(NOTHING ON EARTH CAN MAKE IT FALL)
If I still had eyes I'd be rubbing my corneas on you.
Good, good. Unless you're on a team with Aubisio.
I have a bold prediction: If you are scum, one and only one in Beta or Flynn is also scum.
Beautiful.
In about 12 hours, I want somebody to quote this or alert me or what have you and ask "Oi Borath, what did you find interesting?" and then I'm going to do some research.
Thanks in advance.
This is a quality post.
Initially I only had a witty .gif in response to this. But then I thought long and hard about this mess of a post and I feel like sharing with the class.
Let's talk about your conditional statements regarding Hawkie and aubisio. I agree with the logic that they are, at the very least, not scum partners. What you put forth is reasonable.
The way you have phrased this case is... eccentric. You have no real reads, but you read aubisio as slightly scummy because of his posts. Would that not qualify as a read? Additionally, despite agreeing with Hawkie, you think it's sketchy for Hawkie to go after a scum lean? Is it sketchy to vote for someone you think is scum? Get outta town.
Now let's talk about the bolded. There are two ways to react to it: Reasonably, and like a maniac.
I opted for the latter.
Yes, Mafia or Werewolf or whatever you wish to call it is often described as an educated guessing game, but the tone here is off. Almost like you're reinforcing what we all know in order to validate your future false reads and discredit others' future correct reads.
Odorous vapors cascade from this post, a stench so pungent I can't escape or ignore it.
Also, if a setup troll like that is common here I'm at a bit of a loss.
The last bit is blatantly threatening, and baseless at that.
I obviously have no meta on any of you, so I can't judge you based on meta. So there's bound to be a time when I say "This person is X because Y" and someone will respond with "No Borath, that person can't be X because meta".
And I won't care. I'd prefer to judge people for how they're playing this game, not how they've played other games.
With that out of the way, I'd like to say that 3 votes shouldn't be a cause for concern.
In fact, any number of votes short of say L-1 are cause for concern in my honest opinion. The more votes on me the better to be honest, it saves me the trouble of waiting for someone to die before analyzing their wagon. After all, I already know my alignment, so I can pull wagonomics off as long as there's a wagon on me.
Fearing votes is slightly scummy in my eyes. If I had eyes.
"Hey guys, here is stuff about the setup we should all know."
"I'm gonna set up that terrorists won't shoot tonight so I look better tomorrow, okay?"
"Hawkie is on the right track, we should quell this dissent before it grows unruly."
"That being said I'm certainly not going to vote them."
Add to that a case built around disagreements in playstyle, and you've got a weak post, write out of a cookbook.
Also, most games are about paranoia and Town v Town. Don't believe me? How often is the first vote on a mislynch also a townie?
The answer: Very often.
By definition there are way more townies than scum, so obviously town is going to argue with each other more than they argue with town. That is how math works.
This game is not special in that regard until late game, and this post was made Day 1. Get outta here.
This is the first pancake vote that jumped at me. If it doesn't move I'm calling it fate.
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Alright, those are my uncensored opinions on D1. Final conclusions and D2 analysis coming sometime tomorrow because it is 4:30 in the goddamn morning here in Skeletown and I'm not willing to bust my bones for this business.
When you jump to it
And you can't go through it
And you can't knock it down
You know that you've found
THE WALL
THE WALL
THE WALL
(NOTHING ON EARTH CAN MAKE IT FALL)
I wouldn't doubt it.
If I still had eyes I'd be rubbing my corneas on you.
Agree with the statements, not with the tone. A truly polarizing figure.
Nonsense. How can you call it a bandwagon when Hawkie is the second person on the wagon?
Good, good. Unless you're on a team with Aubisio.
I have a bold prediction: If you are scum, one and only one in Beta or Flynn is also scum.
I am now going to scumread this winky face.
"Hey guys, I'm here, I'm active, don't scumread me. I have no reads, but I'm here, I swear to God I'm not scum, I'm here, look, I'm active, like a villager, you know, not scum, guys I'm here"
Beautiful.
^ This is what cornered scum have to say when they can't muster a quality defense or lie to save themselves.
Lock town.
This is factually accurate but ultimately worthless.
Interesting.
In about 12 hours, I want somebody to quote this or alert me or what have you and ask "Oi Borath, what did you find interesting?" and then I'm going to do some research.
Thanks in advance.
:twoboneythumbsup:
This is a quality post.
Initially I only had a witty .gif in response to this. But then I thought long and hard about this mess of a post and I feel like sharing with the class.
Let's talk about your conditional statements regarding Hawkie and aubisio. I agree with the logic that they are, at the very least, not scum partners. What you put forth is reasonable.
The way you have phrased this case is... eccentric. You have no real reads, but you read aubisio as slightly scummy because of his posts. Would that not qualify as a read? Additionally, despite agreeing with Hawkie, you think it's sketchy for Hawkie to go after a scum lean? Is it sketchy to vote for someone you think is scum? Get outta town.
Now let's talk about the bolded. There are two ways to react to it: Reasonably, and like a maniac.
I opted for the latter.
Yes, Mafia or Werewolf or whatever you wish to call it is often described as an educated guessing game, but the tone here is off. Almost like you're reinforcing what we all know in order to validate your future false reads and discredit others' future correct reads.
Odorous vapors cascade from this post, a stench so pungent I can't escape or ignore it.
Well given the host has specifically mentioned they put thought into who gets what role, one can make the logical leap.
Also, if a setup troll like that is common here I'm at a bit of a loss.
Critical thinking skills ITT.
Tone here is off. The bolded seems passively threatening.
The last bit is blatantly threatening, and baseless at that.
Nostradamus ITT.
I should probably mention something.
I obviously have no meta on any of you, so I can't judge you based on meta. So there's bound to be a time when I say "This person is X because Y" and someone will respond with "No Borath, that person can't be X because meta".
And I won't care. I'd prefer to judge people for how they're playing this game, not how they've played other games.
With that out of the way, I'd like to say that 3 votes shouldn't be a cause for concern.
In fact, any number of votes short of say L-1 are cause for concern in my honest opinion. The more votes on me the better to be honest, it saves me the trouble of waiting for someone to die before analyzing their wagon. After all, I already know my alignment, so I can pull wagonomics off as long as there's a wagon on me.
Fearing votes is slightly scummy in my eyes. If I had eyes.
That being said, based on Flyhn's own strategy this post is fine.
I've only got 30 more to go. Chin up.
It's rare to see so much nothing stretched into so many words.
"Hey guys, here is stuff about the setup we should all know."
"I'm gonna set up that terrorists won't shoot tonight so I look better tomorrow, okay?"
"Hawkie is on the right track, we should quell this dissent before it grows unruly."
"That being said I'm certainly not going to vote them."
Add to that a case built around disagreements in playstyle, and you've got a weak post, write out of a cookbook.
Also, most games are about paranoia and Town v Town. Don't believe me? How often is the first vote on a mislynch also a townie?
The answer: Very often.
By definition there are way more townies than scum, so obviously town is going to argue with each other more than they argue with town. That is how math works.
This game is not special in that regard until late game, and this post was made Day 1. Get outta here.
Spoilers: I know pancake dies at the end of this phase.
This is the first pancake vote that jumped at me. If it doesn't move I'm calling it fate.
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Alright, those are my uncensored opinions on D1. Final conclusions and D2 analysis coming sometime tomorrow because it is 4:30 in the goddamn morning here in Skeletown and I'm not willing to bust my bones for this business.
Are you reading this knowing all the flips or no?
id complain that you only quoted the two posts where I talked about how lazy I was but that probably accurately describes me d1
the memes make the long post more readable funnily enough
by "if it doesnt move i'm calling it fate" (right at the end, what do you mean?)
id complain that you only quoted the two posts where I talked about how lazy I was but that probably accurately describes me d1
the memes make the long post more readable funnily enough
by "if it doesnt move i'm calling it fate" (right at the end, what do you mean?)
yoborath the oscillator said:
I was going to post this morning about how your post made my current vote on Former feel better but I realized that was a pretty useless and empty post and my current read on the situation hasn't materially changed since the last time I posted, though I'm expecting that may change by the time you finish going through the thread.
Also, "Oi Borath, what did you find interesting?"
I'm glad you asked, though sadly my research was in vain.
Former has a nasty habit of hedging like a madman, something I noticed was particularly evident in the post I found interesting.
Sadly, upon doing some research, that is something he just does as a person (I know I said I don't care about meta, but this is pretty low-key so deal).
That being said it doesn't change my opinions on him in any way, I just don't have anything extra to throw at him.
With that taken care of, I'll read through Day 2 now. Might take a few breaks so don't expect it in a timely manner.
I was going to link you to the Hedging page on the MafiaScum Wiki but the site appears to be down at the moment.
Basically it's when people are wishy-washy and qualify all of their reads.
"But on the other hand", "I may be wrong", "Does anyone else think", etc.
Minor statements that make you seem less responsible for your reads. If you can sneak them by, they're an excellent tool in the scum arsenal.
But on the other hand, some people are simply wishy-washy by nature. It's not a guaranteed scum tell. From what I've gathered, Former Hope is one of these people. I may be wrong, but that is my interpretation. Does anyone else think it's NAI?
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