RNGIsFatal
Banned deucer.
Accessibility to Fake Out and Feint will make Weavile a very dangerous revenge killer, and it is pmuch a check to every Ubers mon that is weak to Ice.Well yeah, but I really added it for dnite
Accessibility to Fake Out and Feint will make Weavile a very dangerous revenge killer, and it is pmuch a check to every Ubers mon that is weak to Ice.Well yeah, but I really added it for dnite
I think it's less about when it has Download boost and more about boosts in general, as it's damage isn't incredibly impressive without one. But yeah, I dropped Genesect for Weavile and I am never going back.i really don't think genesect is overpowered...its usually a beast only when it still got Download :I, once it loses it its just like any other ate user but with worse bulk and a bit better coverage
Genesect's issue isn't just that it gets the Download Boost... but also the fact it gets -ate Techno Blast, which levels nearly every physical wall that doesn't resist (and flat out nukes everything with a Special Attack boost)... and can even take on weakened Zapdos with ease. (And to a lesser extent, surprise Fell Stingers) It basically allows Genesect to wallbreak and clean incredibly well.i really don't think genesect is overpowered...its usually a beast only when it still got Download :I, once it loses it its just like any other ate user but with worse bulk and a bit better coverage
The thing with both of these mons is that even if you were to switch into one of your counters (Ho-oh or Giratina, there isn't much else really), both Genesect and Pheromosa can just U-turn out and grab momentum. This very same problem is showing in the OU tier right now, where Phero is getting a suspect because it's so difficult to catch. And that's not to mention the fact that Lucarionite Phero, probably its best mega stone, gives it even more speed and spammable STABs.Genesect's issue isn't just that it gets the Download Boost... but also the fact it gets -ate Techno Blast, which levels nearly every physical wall that doesn't resist (and flat out nukes everything with a Special Attack boost)... and can even take on weakened Zapdos with ease. (And to a lesser extent, surprise Fell Stingers) It basically allows Genesect to wallbreak and clean incredibly well.
It acts pretty similarly to Pheromosa in that it sits in the back unless it wants to be a pivot.... which no other -ate speeder can do. While it does lose the Download boost when it mega evolves, it is easy enough to utilize it in a way that puts the opponent at an incredible disadvantage or just wins.
It loses to other -ate speeders and Rockceus, and that's really the extent of Genesect's faults. It only has one real set, but it does that set incredibly well, and can carry coverage to mess up a potential counter. I think it should have been suspected along with Dragonite, but alas, we need our accurate progress.
And yes, Pheromosa is crazy too. High Jump Kick hits stupidly hard, and it's an incredible offensive pivot, too. We also have Giratina forms, Lunala, and Ho-oh as softer checks. There's also a few -ate Quick Attacks available, if you don't feel like using Genesect, Zygarde, Arcanine, or Entei. (expect those last two to shoot up in viability soon) But besides those.... (can we suspect both Genesect and Pheromosa?)
165/80/45-AlolomolaIn my opinion, Alomomola >>> Vaporeon.
Vaporeon gets normally outclassed by Alomomola.
Grass users are also near non-existent (bulu I guess and he's physical) and the only common electric users are Raikou, Zapdos, and Koko which you can't trap regardless if they're carrying volt/turn which they should be. Tbh you would benefit more by having higher physical bulk so as to trap a wider range of mons and have a better match up against all the different ekillers running around the tier.165/80/45-Alolomola
130/60/95-Vaporeon
It's special vs physical bulk and most Grass and Electric attacks are special.
(I know I have def evs)
You have to have max spe.def alolomola to get more special bulk.
Basically now we have to think about Darkrai, Pheromosa and Gengar.Basically, just wondering. How do you think Pidgeotite will affect the meta?
pheramosa also gets blizzard. rip aerilate usersPher: (edited)
This is gonna be annoying to deal with. STAB 120bp move in focus blast, with 202 base SPA and 171 base speed is not balanced imo. The only reason why I do not think this should be banned as of yet is because aerilate spam seems to still be a thing, and things like luke and archeops beat pher with prio very easily. Also weavile with fake-out and feint beats it as well.
i meant aerilate users with prio- luke and entei with espeed, and archeops with quick attackpheramosa also gets blizzard. rip aerilate users
yeah phero is the definition of borkedi meant aerilate users with prio- luke and entei with espeed, and archeops with quick attack
other aerilate users do shit all to pher as it gets ice beam and fblast.