SPOILERS! Pokemon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon News & Discussion

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Do you mean about the poster or about the games in general? The answer to both is no.
I meant the poster, and I was curious because I can't find anything special, and I'm sure someone out there has a better eye for these things.

Grasping at straws here but Lillie is in her 'Z-powered form' so I'm guessing she'll be dressed like that from an early stage of the game. I'm guessing her personality will have a similar shift as well. I can't recall any other artwork of her for USUM so far off the top of my head.
Ha, she's in her "Z-powered form" but doesn't have a Z-Ring.
 
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As plenty of sites mentioned, they definitely look like something else.

Further pushing forward my theory that the "bad guys" in USUM will not be Lusamine and her lackeys.

Maybe Team Skull is actually not a joke in USUM and moved from stealing road signs to being a real threat? Or something scaryer?
 
I took a close look at those people on the upper part of the poster and....

... the Aether lady besides the tall person in front of Primarina has one bundle of braided hair, I think similar to first phase Lillie. The person beside her seems to be a woman? Couldn't see clearly but the torso may made it so and they also seem to have hair going down on their breast. The guy further back may as well be that stupid Psychic scientist or someone entirely new, but I thought of him stroking his goatee. Still pretty much baseless, but likely we will have more roster of Aether villains other than the ones we had.

And just pointing likely useless thing but, above Deciduye?, the person's headdress seems to remind me of Tapu Lele?'s 'hat'. It's different than the three guys on the upper left, and looks similarly conical.

That Lillie has Pokeball may mean she's this time a trainer or will be when she changes her outfit.
 
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Lillie has a Pokeball in that poster, could that mean anything?

EDIT: Didn't realised I've been sniped. So this isn't a useless one liner, her being a trainer would be a welcome change to her character, as she might not have to depend on the player so much (which was one of my problems with her character, just let me play the damn game please)
 
In a scenario where Aether foundation are not the bad guys, there's a possibility that Lilie was actually never experienced the trauma of her childhood, she never got scared of Pokemon in first place, and maybe actually got intentionally sent to us by Lusamine with Cosmog for some reason.

All in all, the more news and hypespoilers we get from Nintendo about USUM, the more I think the plot of USUM might actually be not as "half finished" as S/M one was, possibly intentionally.


......still hoping that Team Skull actually moved away from stealing road signs.........
 
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The people above Primarina and Decidueye. Those definitely are NOT Aether employees.
They could be those Aether Scientists you fight in the basement. (They were wearing masks too) And one in the background appears to be adopting a similar pose to Fava.

Also, I'm gonna say Lillie is probably the missing Ice Specialist trainer.
 
They could be those Aether Scientists you fight in the basement. (They were wearing masks too) And one in the background appears to be adopting a similar pose to Fava.

Also, I'm gonna say Lillie is probably the missing Ice Specialist trainer.
Hmmm, if they are, then they really gave them a make-up cause the masks look totally different and they are wearing helmets now (it doesn't really give me the researcher feeling for some reason). Also, the one on the left is smaller than the rest, but wears the same equipment. So I'm not sure if he or she is a scientist to. If this is how the new Aether employees look like, then boy I'm intetested.

Also, forgot to mention, but now looking a bit closer to the image, the one in the middle kinda reminds me of Wick with the entire chest zone.
 
Also, I'm gonna say Lillie is probably the missing Ice Specialist trainer.
Eh, while I won't deny the possibility that Lillie will bring that... thing along as in the anime, for Ice Specialist, isn't one of the Kalos' Sycamore's assistant duo already one? I recall the girl is one (Sina, wasn't she?)
 
What if USUM aren't your typical third versions like Crystal/Emerald/Platinum but instead like Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire? Meaning, these occur in an alternate universe. We never got an answer to what happened to Looker in ORAS right? Maybe this is a universe where Nanu & Looker didn't lose a "faller" to Guzzlord. Or the identity of the faller will be revealed as one of those three mystery figures?

These taking place in an alternate dimension wouldn't be THAT out of the ordinary, considering ultra beasts are dimension hoppers.
 
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Hopefully that poster is foreshadowing that Lillie will actually do something of worth in Ultra Sun/Moon instead of other characters pretending she is doing that, but time will tell.

And about those strange shadowed people, keep in mind that Type:Null is nowhere to be seen in spite of its relevance and association with Gladion.

I'm betting on an Aether Foundation redesign (and the reason they are not clearly visible is that it's supposed to be a plot twist that they are bad guys). This is not like BW2's neo Team Plasma which we knew it was evil from the get-go...
 
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Thing is, having Aether foundation as bad guys would feel... redundant, players coming from S/M will be expecting the same.

It would feel pretty boring to me if Lusamine and her buddys are the bad guys again, like "meh, I've seen this before"
 
Thing is, having Aether foundation as bad guys would feel... redundant, players coming from S/M will be expecting the same.

It would feel pretty boring to me if Lusamine and her buddys are the bad guys again, like "meh, I've seen this before"
Didn't really stop them from making Team Plasma the villains in B2/W2. Nor did it stop them from making Team Galactic the villains in Platinum. This is basically the "Third Version" of this gen. So, I'm gonna assume Aether Foundation will still be the villains.... But, I could be proven wrong when the games come out.
 
Could be that this version of the aether foundation are already well beyond what happened in the first game, already grunts being sent to ultra space in that gear, and before the elite four you have a whole arc of fighting grunts with one or two ultra beasts before fighting the big bad (which may be that scientist guy instead of lusamine this time)
 
Ideally I want this game to be a continuation of SM (a few years down the line) when Lusamine recovers, Lillie is a competent trainer, Hau has matured etc. The Aether Foundation did research on the Necrozma we caught (or didn't) in SM, since it was mentioned that it was related to but is not an Ultra Beast, and found whatever secret there is to it, and it's up to us to stop whoever wants to use Necrozma to achieve some purpose. Might be nice to somehow tie Mohn into all of this, too.
 

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It's not a continuation. The main characters have the same names. It's more like an alternate reality like the other 3rd Games are. It isn't confirmed, but that is what everyone believes because all the characters are the same. RBY -> GSC and BW -> BW2 had different protagonists even if some of the Antagonists were similar.

More importantly, does anyone know when the expected videos will be coming out? I haven't even heard any rumours or had emails to say when there might be more of the content heavily hinted at in the direct.
 
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It was stated in the original introduction of USUM before E3 that it's an alternate reality, not sure why people continue "assuming" that it's a following.

Minute 6:20

CLEARLY states:
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So can we stop assuming it's happening after?

USUM stands to SM in same way RSE stands to ORAS: same place, different reality, so people and facts might end up differently and likely will.

In fact, rewatching the presentation, they even hinted that there'd have been new pokemon.
 
It was stated in the original introduction of USUM before E3 that it's an alternate reality, not sure why people continue "assuming" that it's a following.

Minute 6:20

CLEARLY states:
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So can we stop assuming it's happening after?

USUM stands to SM in same way RSE stands to ORAS: same place, different reality, so people and facts might end up differently and likely will.

In fact, rewatching the presentation, they even hinted that there'd have been new pokemon.
Sorry, I watched the Japanese version of it during breakfast and must've missed it when they said that. Didn't bother watching the English version and reading through all the posts here after the Direct.

EDIT: Actually just re-watched the Japanese version (i.e. without subtitles). The literal translation of what he said is that the game offers another story in the same world, which could be interpreted either way. So no, actually not so sorry anymore.
 
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Well I mean, you can keep "reinterpretating" the obvious as much as you want, but it doesnt change the facts.
Even giving the benefit of "incorrect translation", all the latest trailers, posters, game images keep proving the same thing, that's same place, different storyline.

Insisting in negating that it's an alternate reality is really pure negationism :|
 
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Well I mean, you can keep "reinterpretating" the obvious as much as you want, but it doesnt change the facts.
Even giving the benefit of "incorrect translation", all the latest trailers, posters, game images keep proving the same thing, that's same place, different storyline.

Insisting in negating that it's an alternate reality is really pure negationism :|
Counterpoint: Lillie is in the clothes she chose herself in the poster, which is the way we saw her leave Alola for Kanto at the end of SM. Could mean either she came back from Kanto like that a few years on (continuation) or she's just a different person who never went through what the Lillie in SM went through (alternate universe). Either interpretation is valid, and they haven't definitively said either way.

Regardless, I never said that I believe it to be a continuation, I just said that that's what I want it to be. Interesting thing for someone who picked up on the "alternative story taking place in the same world" in the trailer to negate or misinterpret, I suppose.
 
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