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Old Jun 14th, 2011, 2:31:14 AM   #211
Chinese Dood
 
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OK, lost at 178 streak in Single Battle Subway with this team that I didn't even think would get this far:

Jolteon / Volt Absorb / Modest @ Choice Specs
IVs: 22 / 30 / 26 / 31 / 31 / 31 *
EVs: 4 Def 252 SpA 252 Speed
Moves:
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Hidden Power Ice 70
- Shadow Ball

*Just a note totally unrelated to anything relevant: this is the very first pokemon I've ever specifically bred Hidden Power for way back in my Diamond cartridge (which I lost since last year somehow but thank goodness it was transferred to my Platinum) before RNGing in Pokemon was much heard of... I'm just glad it's still useful despite its imperfect IVs :P.

Gyarados / Intimidate / Impish @ Leftovers
IVs: 31 / 31 / 31 / x / 31 / 31
EVs: 252 HP 252 Def 4 Speed
Moves:
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Waterfall
- Substitute

Porygon2 / Trace / Bold @ Eviolite
IVs: 23 / ? / 29 / 30 / 31 / 31 (not sure, but I think something like that, this one was bred back in Diamond days too, but didn't record IVs)
EVs: 252 HP 252 Def 4 Speed (also a wild guess)
Moves:
- Toxic
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Recover

Strategy:
- I'm surprised this team made it this far, because it really didn't have too much of any specific strategy.
- Basically Jolteon tries to OHKO whatever is leading (and hope the next thing is KO'd by my locked move), and if I know Jolteon won't OHKO, then just Volt Switch for somewhat massive damage.
- 99% of the time I'm switching to Gyarados. I can't really think of any case where I'd switch directly to Porygon2 (not that it can't take it, but dunno why... I probably should sometimes I think for obvious advantageous ability trace switch ins).
- Jolteon's Tbolt OHKOs things nearly all fighting and fire types that aren't resisted (Gallade, some Machamps and Hariyama and Magmortar are some of the exceptions).
- Obviously Gyarados's main job is to switch into EQs and then intimidate. Often times, vs physical leads, I can just keep switching between Gyarados and Porygon2 until opponent pokemon is at -6 Attack, and then Porygon2 just recovers and then Gyarados can just sub up and DD away. Waterfall + EQ is horrible coverage, but at least it's 100% accurate and EQ allows me not having to fear Static and Flame Body pokemon.
- Porygon2's bulk is just pretty amazing. After one Intimidate, it can even stall out most STAB Close Combats assuming no crits (I never do that though of course, since Gyarados can switch into those Close Combats for more Intimidating).

Threats (encountered so far):
- Bulky Volcarona almost broke my streak today around 150 streak when Jolteon's 2nd Tbolt failed to KO Volcarona after it used Quiver Dance first turn (Jolteon still outspeed after one Quiver Dance). I've faced this Volcarona around 3 times before and every time the 2nd Tbolt KOs Volcarona. Maybe I rolled high damage before or just unlucky that time. Since it had leftovers, I was doubtful that Porygon2's Tbolt will KO the Volcarona even though it's low on health, so I used Toxic instead. P2 fainted after surviving one +2 Heat wave, and Gyarados got a lucky Hurricane miss (and luckily the 2 pokemon after that were manageable by Gyarados). Next time I should just Volt Switch to Gyarados on first turn though, since I realized (now) that none of the Volcaronas have Ancient Power to threaten Gyarados, so the worse my team should do is Gyarados getting damaged and a burn from Volcarona's Flame Body.

- Curse Ferrothorn almost ended up streak earlier on (nothing in my team hits it for super effective, and only neutral hit - being Gyarados's EQ - is weak unless Gyarados has boosts down), but I've only seen that Ferroseed once after 70-ish streak, and that time Gyarados already had 6 DDs down. If it didn't I think I'll have a quite a bit of hard time.

- Crits (especially on Gyarados). It was a bit scary when Snorlax Double-Edge crit Gyarados for KO first turn when I Volt-Switch out... I forgot what happened after that, but somehow I won, so yay? I think it was the life orb one, and P2 just stalled it out with recover. Usually that's what happens, except it was a bit more scary this time around because Snorlax might have immunity (I forgot if that one did, ironically).

Move Usage:
- By far the "move" that is used most often with this team is... switching.**
- 2nd most used move is probably Jolteon's Tbolt which has its fair share of sweeps, closely followed by Gyarados's DD and then Porygon2's Recover

** I remember there was this one recent battle that went like this:
Jolteon vs Braviary (me thinking obvious OHKO with TBolt of course)
1. Tbolt. Wacan activates, Braviary survives and Giga Impact OHKO Jolteon.
2. Gyarados in and Intimidate. Braviary recharge. Gyarados DD.
3. Sub. Giga Impact (breaks sub).
4. DD. Recharge.
5. Sub. Giga Impact (breaks sub).
6. DD. Recharge.
7. Sub. Giga Impact (breaks sub).
8. Sub. Recharge.
9. Waterfall. Braviary fainted. (I didn't want Gyarados' health to be too low, so usually in these situations I only have 3DDs with a sub up.) Donphan in.
10. Waterfall. Sturdy. Stone Edge breaks sub.

... Here of course I can just KO with Waterfall, but instead.
11. Switch to Porygon2. Stone Edge (<25%)
12. Switch to Gyarados Intimidate. EQ... repeat 9 and 10, until Donphan was out of Stone Edge PP and at -5 Attack, at which point, Gyarados was able to DD to +6 with a sub up. I *think* that might have been the battle where Ferrothorn as last pokemon, but might have been another battle.
EDIT: Yeah, I do realize I should have sub on 2nd turn to get one extra turn of leftovers recovery on the recharge. Heh. O well.

How I lost:
Opponent's team was Raikou, Cresselia, Regigigas. Basically lost due to my inability to KO Cresselia fast enough before it was able to Calm Mind up. And also switched too much unnecessarily.
It went something like this (I might have messed up a few turns during the calm minds):
1. Raikou used Extrasensory (around 38% damage). Jolteon used Shadow Ball (around 47% damage).
--> Raikou was faster so it must have been timid. At this rate, Jolteon will lose, so, of course that's where Gyarados comes in.
2. Switch to Gyarados. Shadow Ball (around 30% damage before leftovers).
3. Switch to Jolteon. Volt Switch heals Jolteon.
4. Shadow Ball. Shadow Ball.
5. Shadow Ball. Shadow Ball. Raikou fainted. Jolteon at around 20%. Cresselia in.
6. Switch to Gyarados. Psychic (around 20% damage).
--> Decided I should just wear Cress down with Toxic. (A bit of mistake... I should have done this either one turn ago, or set up with Gyarados, instead of making this unnecessary switch.
7. Switch to Porygon2. Calm Mind.
8. Psychic. Toxic.
9. Calm Mind. Ice beam.
10. Psychic. Ice beam.
11. Psychic. Recover.
12. Rest, Chesto. Recover.
13. Calm Mind. Toxic.
14. Psychic. Recover.
15. Psychic. Recover.
16. Psychic. P2 faints. Gyarados in.
17. Rest. Sub.
18. DD. Sleeping.
19. Waterfall. Sleeping.
20. Waterfall. Psychic breaks sub
21. Waterfall. Rest. (In retrospect, I should have DD twice during sleep instead. O well.)
22-n. I forgot how it went, but after Cress woke up the 2nd time, Gyarados was basically forced to attack hoping Cress would Rest (or even better, flinch), either which would have given Gyarados the win, but instead Cress KO'd Gyarados with Psychic, leaving herself to about 5% HP.
n. Jolteon KO's Cresselia with TBolt (the safest move to be locked into... hoping a legendary bird comes out...). Regigigas in. Pretty much given hope now, but let's see.
n+1. Jolteon Thunderbolt, did a bit more than half, but Regigigas had leftovers. Regigigas used Double Team. So I still have a chance!
n+2. Tbolt hits but did not KO Regigigas. Double Team #2.
n+3. Tbolt miss. Toxic.
n+4. Tbolt miss. Double team.
n+5. Tbolt miss. Double team. Jolteon faints.

178 is not bad at all, so I'm happy enough with this for the time being. Probably no more single Subway for me for real this time, until, maybe this gets knocked off top 5 or something. I dunno, just arbitrarily setting that. I'll get a pic up soon.

Last edited by Chinese Dood; Jun 14th, 2011 at 7:50:09 PM.
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