The Defense of the Titans Project

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The Defense of the Titans Project
(The structure and template is mostly taken from the DH project, so credit to Birkal)


Hello everyone, and welcome to the Defense of the Titans Project. Me and Pocket will be in charge of it, and it will be referred to as the DT Project from now on for everyone's convenience. The DT Project has two main goals:

1. Exploring the potential of stall teams in today’s metagame

With the advent of BW2, many powerful and centralizing Pokemon were introduced in OU, such as Thundurus-T, Genesect, Keldeo, and Tornadus-T. Most of those Pokemon have incredible offensive stats, as well as the moves, speed, bulk, and abilities to abuse them. This led to a decrease of both the popularity and the viability of stall in OU. Stall is more difficult to build than ever, as well as use, preventing most players from fully exploring the potential of such teams, and seeking success with more user friendly and easy to build type of teams, such as Rain Offense or Weatherless Heavy Offense. The fact that stall, as a playstyle, is labeled as ''boring'' and ''unattractive'' by many players doesn't help stall's popularity at all. So here comes the first goal of this project, to encourage the usage of stall, allowing us to reach to a better and more well thought decision about the viability of stall, and furthermore a better view of the metagame as a whole.

2. Increasing diversity

I don't know if this goal is a byproduct of the first one, but regardless I feel the need to address it. To the eyes of many players, the OU metagame is stale, boring and very centralized around a few threats, even more than usually. One of the main reasons of this belief is the lack of popular and effective playstyles in the OU ladder. Except from half a dozen of team archetypes, at most, namely Rain Offense, Weatherless Heavy Offense, Bulky Offense, Sun Offense, and DragMag offense, every other playstyle is left in obscurity, especially more defensive based steam such as semi-stall and stall teams. And because only a few types of teams are being used, certain Pokemon that flourish in more defensive teams see very little usage, many of them which have a lot of underused potential. So the second goal of this project is to increase the diversity of OU, by encouraging the use of more defensive Pokemon. If those Pokemon are better and more viable than we think will be decided to a degree by you, the participants of this project.

Rules:

This project, simply put, aims at recognizing users who put forth the effort to create a competitively successful stall team. Anyone with a Smogon account has a chance of reaching the Hall of Fame within this project. Here are the rules by which this project is run:
  • Each team must have at least five Pokemon that will invest a minimum of 460 EVs in any of their HP / Def / SpD / Spe stats, as well as a nature that doesn’t increase any offensive stat (Atk and SpA). This means that you are only allowed to use one offensive Pokemon maximum in your team.
  • ***NEW RULE***: Moves that boost offensive stats are banned (Dragon Dance, Calm Mind, etc). The only exception is the offensive Pokemon you are allowed to use. You can still run a defensive Pokemon with Calm Mind, Dragon Dance or other such moves, but it will be counted as your offensive Pokemon.
  • You MUST use a new Pokemon Showdown! Username in order to restart your ladder ranking. Furthermore, the DT team that you are working with can be changed at will, as long as it meets the requirements.
  • Do not start laddering for this project until you have registered within this topic.
  • Please follow the rules. The DT Project isn't about being dishonest; it's about developing great stall teams! As a result, cheaters will most likely end up being banned from the Hall of Fame.
  • It is recommended that you post consistent ladder updates within your registration form. This will allow other users to see your progress and offer meaningful advice!

Registration:

You are eligible to register for the DT Project at any time of the month! The third post in this topic contains an index for easy access to all participants, so don't worry about your Registration Form getting lost in the sea of discussion. Get started by filling out the below form:

Originally Posted by Fat Registration Form
Pokemon Showdown! Username:
Hall of Fame Standing:
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!:
Remember, your "Pokemon Showdown! Username" should be new so that your DT team will be starting from scratch. Your "Hall of Fame Standing" should be empty for right now. But once you're admitted into the Hall of Fame, feel free to update this part with links to your accomplishment!

Once you've registered, you're all set to go! You can start teambuilding and laddering whenever you like. Feel free to update your registration posts whenever you like, whether it be with ladder ranking updates, your teammate selections, battle logs, sprites, or whatever you wish to do!

Discussion:

This topic also serves a second purpose to initiate discussion on battlers' teambuilding and laddering progress; in this thread, you share your struggles and success, and reflect upon your DT teams role and effectiveness in the current OU metagame. This thread is not only a place to show off successful challenges, but also a place to help each other achieve their goals via posting your problems and receiving quality input from others. Challengers should not hesitate to post their teams and/or team ideas to receive help from the community. You are allowed to post your thoughts and opinions. However, here is a "Do and Do Not" list that posters in this topic must adhere to:


  • Do post and share sets for your DT team.
  • Do provide explantion about the synergy between the Pokemon in your DT team.
  • Do pinpoint which threats in the metagame need to be covered.
  • Do ask questions about the current OU metagame and teambuilding.
  • Do give meaningful answers to asked questions. This can include suggested sets, teammates, and strategies.

  • Do not post insignificant updates. Each post should be well thought and unique.
  • Do not ask someone to make the team for you. Team building is YOUR job (and a fun one at that).

Hall of Fame:

Now comes the competitive aspect of this project. Once you've reached a ranking within the Top 100 on Smogon's competitive OU ladder (with a minimum Glicko2 rating of 1950) with your DT team, you are eligible to enter the Hall of Fame! The Hall of Fame is located within the post below the OP and recognizes each user that has entered its halls. Once you've reached the Top 100, please fill out the following Hall of Fame Registration Form:

Originally Posted by Fat Hall of Fame Registration Form
Pokemon Showdown! Username:
DT team:
Screenshot of Top 100 Ladder Ranking:
DT team Complete Sets:
As with the regular Registration Form, you are encouraged to upload battle logs, teammates, and other relevant information. Since you're entering the Hall of Fame with a successful team, many users would love to hear some wisdom on how you accomplished that goal. So feel free to post a summary of your team (similar to a RMT), battle logs, and general thoughts. Once you've filled out this form, you'll be accepted into the Hall of Fame, which will link to your Hall of Fame Registration Form and other relevant links.

Finally there will be different levels on the Hall of Fame, depending on how successful you were with the team. The biggest your ranking, the higher you will rise to the list. So now that you know the rules, get registered and start team building! If you have any questions, send me a VM/PM. Best of luck!
 

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Discussion and Learning

This post will be dedicated to discussion about stall, which is one of the most important aspects of this project. In this section there will be saved any helpful independent posts that explain integral elements of stall's function and success in the modern metagame.
Also everyone that qualifies for the Hall of Fame will be called to answer the questions below, and everyone is free to discuss them, add its own input, and raise new questions. These answers will be saved in the HoF section for anyone to see. Any post that will help the people understand how stall is built and how it works, is a welcome addition to this project, and good posts will be saved in this section, as already mentioned. So except from keeping a record of the best stall teams of the participants, we will also be keeping a record of the best posts in this thread, allowing new players to quickly get a taste of what stall is by reading these well written posts. Without further ado, here are the questions that every HoFer is expected to answer:


- What are the roles of Pokemon that were essential to your stall team's success? Rapid Spinner, Physical Wall, Hazard Setter, etc.

- What was the most useful Pokemon in your team and why? You can also talk about defensive cores here.

- What were the biggest threats to your stall team, and how you dealt with them?

- Did you find it easy or difficult to build a successful stall team? Explain why.

- How did you reach the Hall of Fame? Was it easy or difficult? Did having a stall team benefit you? What advice would you give to those laddering with stall teams?
Feel free to answer any of these questions. It can be anything from a few sentences to an essay. Sharing your learning and thoughts is an incredibly important part of this project. So get writing and keep on laddering. Keep it up!

Helpful Posts Archive
 

Pocket

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Stolen from my awesome DHP HoF Post x)

To spice things up, here are the conditions to earn Grandmaster:

1) Top #3, 2300 min glicko2 rating
2) only 1 Grandmaster per DT
3) The original Grandmaster can be knocked out by someone with a higher glicko2 rating.

I encourage people who are in Platinum or even Gold to vye for the sacred spot!
Current Hall of Fame (10):

Be one of the few to conquer the Ladder with your Stall Team, and you will be forever recorded in our Hall of Fame! Remember, admission now requires you to obtain the Top 100 on Showdown's ladder with minimum glicko2 rating of 1950. Who will become this month's Grand Master?!

Platinum Class: 2299-2200 & top 10 (1)
- Kidogo -
Rain Stall
Peaked at: 2209 (#1) on 11/15/2012
Entered Hall of Fame at: 1983 (#90) on 11/7/2012
"Tentacruel's set is one of my favorite, it's subtoxic -- toxic since all i really need is to get the opponent suffering from some kind of continuous damage (LO, burn from scald, toxic from toed, etc.) and tentacruel can stall anything out."
First Peak & Team Overview; Ladder Alt Iambic; Discussion Response; Revamped Team
Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 236 HP / 220 Def / 36 SDef / 16 Spd
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Recover
- Heal Bell
- Psychic
- Perish Song

Politoed (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 252 HP / 216 Def / 36 SDef / 4 Spd
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Encore
- Protect
- Toxic

Tentacruel (F) @ Black Sludge
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 204 HP / 252 Def / 36 SDef / 16 Spd
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Rapid Spin
- Scald
- Toxic

Ferrothorn (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 SDef
Impish Nature
- Leech Seed
- Thunder Wave
- Power Whip
- Spikes

Latios (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Surf
- Thunder
- Trick

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 162 SDef / 96 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Wish
- Thunder
- Iron Head

Gold Class: 2199-2100 & top 25 (1)
- Mosquiton -
Rain Stall
"Stall battles make me bore, indeed i usually play offense, but is too fun to use ditto :D"
Peaked at: 2135 (#18) on 11/4/2012
Full Team, log replay
Politoed (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Drizzle
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Protect
- Toxic
- Perish Song

Ditto @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Imposter
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd / 4 Def
Jolly Nature
IVs: 30 Atk / 30 Def
- Transform

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Impish Nature
- Brave Bird
- Roost
- Spikes
- Whirlwind

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Sassy Nature
- Thunder
- Wish
- Stealth Rock
- Iron Head

Tentacruel (M) @ Black Sludge
Trait: Rain Dish
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Substitute
- Toxic
- Rapid Spin

Gastrodon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Storm Drain
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Relaxed Nature
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Toxic
- Earthquake

Silver Class: 2099-2050 & top 50 (4)
- Princess Bri -
Sun Stall
"Sun Stall overall is a very limited playstyle; however, this doesn't mean it isn't effective. The biggest concern when playing with the team is keep sun up at all times."
Peaked at: 2086 (#41) on 11/4/2012
Discussion Response
Ninetales (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Drought
EVs: 248 HP / 244 Def / 16 Spd
Timid Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Roar
- Fire Blast
- Protect

Venusaur (M) @ Black Sludge
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 192 HP / 252 Def / 28 SDef / 36 Spd
Bold Nature
- Sleep Powder
- Leech Seed
- Substitute
- Hidden Power [Fire]

Forretress (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SDef
Sassy Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Volt Switch

Sableye (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SDef / 8 Spd
Careful Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Taunt
- Recover
- Foul Play

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Def / 16 SDef
Calm Nature
- Softboiled
- Seismic Toss
- Flamethrower
- Toxic

Cresselia (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SDef
Bold Nature
- Ice Beam
- Reflect
- Moonlight
- Psyshock

- Lady Alex -
Weatherless Stall
" Dusclops is able to spinblock both starmie and tentacruel. Hydro pump from Starmie fails to 2hko in the rain, and it runs out of pp after 4 uses due to pressure. Tentacruel can do nothing at all to it. "
Peaked at: 2066 (#27) on 11/7/2012
Entered Hall of Fame at: 2056 (#43) on 11/5/2012
Discussion Response
Vaporeon (F) @ Damp Rock
Trait: Hydration
EVs: 252 HP / 208 Def / 44 Spd
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Toxic
- Rain Dance
- Rest

Chansey (F) @ Eviolite
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SDef
Calm Nature
- Seismic Toss
- Heal Bell
- Softboiled
- Stealth Rock

Skarmory (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Impish Nature
- Spikes
- Whirlwind
- Roost
- Brave Bird

Tentacruel (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spd
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Toxic Spikes
- Protect
- Rapid Spin

Quagsire (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 30 Atk / 30 Def
- Scald
- Toxic
- Recover
- Earthquake

Dusclops @ Eviolite
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Sassy Nature
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Toxic
- Night Shade

- Tizio Potente Ao -
Scarf Aboma Stall
"I stopped play pokemon like 5 months ago and i started to play again with this event... The only advice that i'd like give to those laddering with stall teams is be unpredictable."
Peaked at: 2065 (#42) on 11/6/2012
Entered Hall of Fame at: 2069 (#61) on 11/5/2012
First Peak, Discussion Response
Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd / 4 Def
Jolly Nature
- Ice Fang
- Protect
- Earthquake
- Substitute

Abomasnow @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Snow Warning
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 SAtk
Naive Nature
- Ice Shard
- Wood Hammer
- Earthquake
- Blizzard

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 118 SDef / 196 Def / 192 Spd
Bold Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Toxic

Gastrodon @ Leftovers
Trait: Storm Drain
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Serious Nature
- Recover
- Scald
- Ice Beam
- Earthquake

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Impish Nature
- Spikes
- Roost
- Brave Bird
- Whirlwind

Tentacruel @ Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Protect
- Rapid Spin
- Toxic Spikes

- Melee Mewtwo -
Weatherless Stall
"...ScarfGoth can cop you out of unwanted situations and clean up lose ends. Don't forget type synergy and go through the threat list when you are finished."
Peaked at: 2061 (#6) on 11/17/2012
Discussion Response
Chansey (F) @ Eviolite
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SDef
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic
- Softboiled
- Stealth Rock

Gliscor (M) @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Toxic
- Protect
- Roost

Jellicent (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 248 HP / 44 Spd / 36 Def / 180 SDef
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Will-O-Wisp
- Recover
- Taunt

Forretress (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SDef
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Gyro Ball
- Protect
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes

Heatran (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SDef / 8 Def
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Lava Plume
- Toxic
- Protect
- Roar

Gothitelle (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Shadow Tag
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 SDef
Timid Nature
- Psyshock
- Thunderbolt
- Trick
- Hidden Power Ice

Bronze Class: 2049 -1950 & top 100 (4)
- GatoDelFuego -
Scarf Tar Stall
"Whether they were on my side of the field or the opponents, entry hazards played a big part in every match... Amoongus stood out in particular, as it was not only able to regenerate lost damage most of the time, but put to sleep key hazard inducers that would stack up damage against my team in particular."
Peaked at: 2043 (#77) on 11/3/2012
Discussion Response
Tyranitar (F) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Crunch
- Pursuit
- Superpower
- Stone Edge

Heatran (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SDef / 8 Spd
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Stealth Rock
- Lava Plume
- Toxic
- Roar

Slowbro (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Psychic
- Slack Off
- Toxic

Amoonguss (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 SDef
Calm Nature
- Spore
- Clear Smog
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Giga Drain

Gliscor (F) @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 HP / 184 Def / 72 Spd
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Substitute
- Toxic
- Protect

Forretress (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 2 Spd
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Volt Switch
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes

- cmurph -
Rain Stall
"Hazard setter was crucial... Roserade was very especially useful in this regard... If the other team was weak to toxic spikes and Kyurem got a sub up then it was game over."
Peaked at: 1993 (#88) on 11/7/2012
Ladder Alt Bigtool09; Discussion Response
Politoed (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Scald
- Protect
- Perish Song
- Toxic

Kyurem @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Earth Power
- Roost
- Substitute

Roserade (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Rest
- Sludge Bomb
- Spikes
- Toxic Spikes

Jellicent (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Cursed Body
EVs: 248 HP / 212 Def / 48 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Scald
- Taunt
- Recover
- Will-O-Wisp

Donphan (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Ice Shard
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin

Genesect @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Download
EVs: 128 Atk / 128 SAtk / 252 Spd
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- U-turn
- Bug Buzz
- Thunder
- Ice Beam

- Neliel Tu Oderschvank -
Rain Stall
Peaked at: 1993 (#91) on 11/4/2012
Full Team
Politoed @ Leftovers
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 252 HP / 44 Spd / 200 Def
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Toxic
- Refresh
- Protect

Chansey (F) @ Eviolite
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Def / 252 SDef / 4 Spd
Calm Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic
- Softboiled

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Impish Nature
- Spikes
- Roost
- Brave Bird
- Whirlwind

Latias (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 200 Def / 36 Spd
Bold Nature
- Wish
- Protect
- Surf
- Psyshock

(im thinking about changing his spread/moves, mm)
Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef / 4 Def
Sassy Nature
- Wish
- Protect
- Thunder
- Iron Head

Tentacruel @ Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Spd / 240 Def
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Toxic Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Protect

- papai noel -
Rain Stall
Peaked at: 1982 (#98) on 11/5/2012
Using stall was not a fun experience to me, although this project was really interesting as a whole.
Politoed @ Leftovers
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 252 HP / 232 Def / 24 Spd
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Toxic
- Perish Song
- Protect

Tentacruel @ Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 252 HP / 176 Def / 80 SDef
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Toxic Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Protect

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SDef / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Brave Bird
- Spikes
- Roost
- Whirlwind

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 232 Def / 24 SDef
Bold Nature
- Psyshock
- Thunder
- Calm Mind
- Wish

Quagsire @ Leftovers
Trait: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Relaxed Nature
- Scald
- Earthquake
- Toxic
- Recover

Chansey (F) @ Eviolite
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SDef
Bold Nature
- Seismic Toss
- Stealth Rock
- Wish
- Softboiled
 

alexwolf

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Registered Participants
(credit to alkinesthetase for the format)

PLEASE KEEP YOUR REGISTRATION UP TO DATE.
When you achieve HoF status with a Stall Team, always update the original post! That way, when we need to update our lists, we can just skip through the registration list. You can make a new post as well to let us know, but always make sure the updates for ladder ranking, alt name, etc are in the original post. We cannot guarantee that we will notice ANY data outside of them. Alkinesthetase spent over two hours updating DH's list last month; doing this saves us a lot of time.

Be tenacious and ladder to the top!

If you've already reached the Hall of Fame this month, you can continue to participate in the project by improving your Hall of Fame record even further.

~~~

Last Update: Nov 30th 12:08:27 PM [Eastern European Time GMT +2 forum time]

Current Participants: 65 (Newest: ToF)

 

Jukain

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Pokemon Showdown! Username: The_Forgotten
Hall of Fame Standing: none yet
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: none yet

excellent I have an excuse to build a stall team let's go!

(first registrant to epic project)

EDIT: pocket the HoF post says Dark Horse not DT

Pocket EDIT: rofl my bad!~
 
Pokemon Showdown! Username: doughboy DTCOU
Hall of Fame Standing: none
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: none

Let's get it trying not to do rain stall
 
Pokemon Showdown! Username: nasty nas
Hall of Fame Standing: none yet
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: none yet
 

Electrolyte

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Pokemon Showdown! Username: electrolyteDT >.>
Hall of fame Standing: none yet
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: none yet

Question, are speed boosting natures allowed?

Pocket EDIT: yes
 
Pokemon Showdown! Username: no wifein the club
Hall of fame Standing: none yet
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: none yet
 
Pokemon Showdown! Username: AmbicrowDT
Hall of Fame Standing: None
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: None
 

GatoDelFuego

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Pokemon Showdown! Username: GatoDelFuego
Hall of Fame standing: Bronze
Current ladder standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 1914 ACRE, 2043 +91 GLICKO2

 
ahhh yeah, time for me to get out of the hole I dug myself into

Pokemon Showdown! Username: Regipro
Hall of Fame Standing: -
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: -
 

alexwolf

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Pokemon Showdown! Username: Mr. Wolf
Hall of Fame Standing: none
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: none
 

Neliel

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Pokemon Showdown! Username: lol Stall
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nooblikeaboon

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Ive been playing exlusively Sunstall on my alt Pleasure for about 2 month now and ive peaked #1 (i think ~2120 max rating) several times (and beaten players like panamaxis and Taylor and idk) and am like almost always in the Top100 (depending if i decayed or not).

Used an old BW1 Sunstallteam: Ninetales, Dugtrio, Xatu, Volcarona, Slowbro, Chansey. (Yup i ran Xatu+Dugtrio way before Lavos made it popular even back in late 2011.)

Sadly this type of team isnt working as well anymore since people started to run SR on Terrakion/Landorus. Lets just say winning vs. SashTerrakion-Offense and Torn-T+Thund-T-Rain is quite hard. I think i win most of these matchups just due to skill and dumb matchmaking (1500 or lower ppl vs me).

Just did 1 match to fight of the decay and am now at spot #25. GG!

But yeah will prolly make a new alt with another team since this one probably wont be recognized because ive been using it for the last 2 month.
 

alexwolf

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@noobikeaboon

Yeah you must make a new alt in order to participate in this project. Go ahead and join, Sun Stall was always a challenging type of team to build, and i never managed to make one, so i would love to see some successful sun stall teams!
 

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After laddering for a few hours, I've found some interesting things:

1. Stallbreakers are nonexistent. With a huge decline in stall, things that destroy defensive teams are simply not as popular. It makes it a bit easier to wall things, as there aren't many mixed attackers out there anymore, it seems to me.

2. Hazards are more important than ever. This is facing and for stall teams. I just played a match where I was able to heal my heatran up to full from 2% just by switching in, with no hazards. If there is one turn of "opportunity cost", one free turn, that anyone has against stall teams, it should be to put hazards up as soon as possible. With all of the offensive stuff going around, it's harder than ever to get a spinner in and remove hazards. One of the most effective strategies in my opinion is to put up hazards and use regenerator pokes to stall the opponent out in switches, not in phazing.
 
Healbell/Aromatherapy might be necessary since getting a toxic or burn on one of your pokes that walls their team ruins your chances of winning.
 

Neliel

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Oh yea, i started laddering with a sand stall team. I builded in like 5 minutes, i started from a standard fgw core (heatran+slowbro+amongus) then Tyranitar so that heatran doesnt completely sucks against rain teams, then i tried spikes forretress as a spinner and Latias for sinergy.
A thing that i noticed is that genedug and such are not very common anymore, so i can freely use chople tar. Im still trying some set however, i still dont know what to use for sure. Maybe i can put Scarfterrakion somewhere so genesect is less problematic, but i dont know...
 

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Literally that is almost the same team as me. Heatran, slowbro, amoongus, ttar, forretress, and then Gliscor for walling. Funny how stall seems to work like that, eh?
 

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alexwolf

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GatoDelFuego certainly has a point when saying that stallbreakers and wallbreakers are not so popular right now. It is expected anyway, with stall seeing so little usage. So this could be a factor that can help players build stall teams without worrying about one of it's basic problems as much as it usually does.

Also i am curious to see if hazards + walling with Regenerators can still work. I remember seeing a very successful semi-stall or balanced DW team that featured this strategy, with the infamous Heatran-Amoonguss-Slowbro core. Those kind of teams had one major problem though, hazards. Generally hazards are quite troubling for stall teams, as wtih SR + 1 layer of Spikes many walls fall to the Pokemon that they were supposed to counter, and switching constantly is not an option. The most threatening hazard setter for stall teams right now seems to be no other than Deoxys-D. So how are your stall teams handling this massive threat? Are there any underrated strategies or Pokemon to deal with it?
 
Well... I hall of famed in the dark horse project with a stall team... don't really want to ladder a new alt. But let me say that ditto is great on a stall team since it lets you beat teams that rely on boosters to wall-break.
 
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