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Old Feb 24th, 2013, 10:43:40 PM   #78
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There has been somegreat discussion in this thread, but since my last post, I feel the majority was in agreement, and I there was not much to convince me otherwise regarding the specifics on Steel types and the kind of things we want to threaten. We are already well on the way to helping out sun by threatening Latios, Latias, and various water types, and, when it comes to Steel types, trying to overcome that which sun already handles is unnecessary, and would only serve to make our Pokémon more independent from its teammates, which in the long run may simply make it more desirable to be used outside of our target weather, without actually aiding what we want to aid.

Also, to address capefeather's post above, while I see nothing wrong with having a coverage move that would hit such Pokemon neutrally, much of the suggestions in this thread that suggest hitting something like Scizor neutral are predicated on wanting to hit some other Steel types hard with super effective moves, which I do not believe is something we should be trying to do.

So, moving along, here are some lists of what we should be aiming to threaten and be threatened by:

Threaten:
Psychic types: especially Latios & Latias
Water types: most notably Politoed
Ghost types: Gengar and Jellicent
Electric types: Rotom-W, Jolteon, Thundurus-T

Be threatened by:
Steel types: including Heatran and especially Scizor
Bug types: Volcarona (and Scizor again) most imporatantly
Fire types: Ninetales and Infernape, for example
Some fighting types: such as Breloom and Toxicroak

Overall I don’t feel there was a lot of consensus either way about what we should do as far as Dragons. I think the best approach to is to not try and threaten them, but not be overly threatened. How this is accomplished can be decided later, but this could be via threatening non-damaging moves or simply having enough power on neutral or better hits that they cannot efficiently switch in, even if CAP5 could not stop them once they have already come into play. The goal with these Pokémon is to fit them squarely in between the two above categories.
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