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Old Feb 25th, 2012, 6:23:59 PM   #1
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Default Yarnus vs Waterwarrior in a gym, minus the gym leader!

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4 recoveries/infinite chills
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3 day DQ
Arena:
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Switch = OK (why not?)
Items = training
All abilities

Yarnus of Bethany
Togepi

Zap! The Porygon2

Zzz! The Munchlax

Aww! The Deerling

Yum! The Lickitung


Watterwarrior
Rainbow Dash the Staravia!

Pinkie Pie the Chansey

Franziska the Servine

Kippy the Marshtomp

Heavy the Munchlax


Order:
Yarnus send out mon
Watterwarrior send out mon and order
Yarnus order
Me ref

(small note, little confused on the whole res is always .9 stuff, bare with me and correct mistakes)
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Old Feb 25th, 2012, 6:32:31 PM   #2
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Crack! Togepi, come out of your shell.
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Old Feb 25th, 2012, 6:42:43 PM   #3
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Hmm... Pinkie would do best here, but that damn Psycho Shift.. Hmmm... go Kippy. Good thing Togepi isn't a Flying-type :P

Earthquake -> Waterfall -> Earthquake
If Togepi uses Metronome, change that action to Dig

Edit: oh yeah, take this Amulet Coin while you're at it!
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Old Feb 25th, 2012, 10:40:17 PM   #4
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Shadow Ball, Yawn, Future Sight
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Old Feb 25th, 2012, 11:17:04 PM   #5
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Those moves looked a little fishy to me, so I asked about it in SQSA:
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Looking at Future Sight's DAT description, I reckon it could be used twice in one round, but the effects would not stack so doing so would be pointless. I think the same would hold true for other moves whose effect is delayed until the first action of the next round, like Wish and Yawn.
Sorry yarnus... I think it's only fair if yarnus is allowed to re-order though.
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Old Feb 26th, 2012, 1:07:30 PM   #6
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Waterwarrior
OOOOO

Kippy the Marshtomp (M) @
Hp: 100
Eng: 100

Nature: Adamant
Abilities:Torrent
Stats: None
Atk:4/Def:3/SpA:1/SpD:3/Spe:50
Condition: OK

Yarnus of Bethany
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Crack! the Togepi (F)
Hp: 90
Eng: 100

Nature: Modest
Abilities:Hustle
Serene grace
Stats: None
Atk:0/Def:3/SpA:3/SpD:3/Spe:20
Condition: OK


Round 1: Preparation is not an option!
Marshtomp tries an all out attack on the small togepi, togepi just sets up its guns, ready to fire next round...


Calcs
a1
Marshtomp uses earthquake -6eng,(C=1115)(10+3+6-4.5=15 damage) -15Hp Togepi
Togepi uses shadow ball -6eng,(C=2619) (8+2+4.5-4.5=10 damage) -10Hp Marshtomp(SpD lower 20/100=1) -1SpD (2r)
a2
Marshtomp uses waterfall -5eng,(C=4992) (8+3+6-4.5=13 damage) -13Hp Togepi (flinch 20/100=90 no)
Togepi uses yawn -6eng, Marshtomp became sleepy
a3
Marshtomp uses earthquake -6eng,(C=7288)(10+3+6-4.5=15 damage) -15Hp Togepi
Togepi uses Future sight -7eng, (10+2 remeber)

end


Waterwarrior
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Kippy the Marshtomp (M) @
Hp: 90
Eng: 83

Nature: Adamant
Abilities:Torrent
Stats: -1SpD (2a)
Atk:4/Def:3/SpA:1/SpD:3/Spe:50
Condition: OK

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Crack! the Togepi (F)
Hp: 43
Eng: 81

Nature: Modest
Abilities:Hustle
Serene grace
Stats: None
Atk:0/Def:3/SpA:3/SpD:3/Spe:20
Condition: OK

Yarnus of Bethany, Your up next!
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Old Feb 26th, 2012, 2:13:00 PM   #7
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Mog, you misunderstood the 1.53x thing. The 1.53x comes from if an attack is SE on one type of a dual-type Pokemon and NVE on the other, like Surf on a Marshtomp (Water is SE on Ground, but NFE on Water) or the example of the Earthquake on a Venusaur.

tl;dr all of that round's attack stay at 1x, not 1.53x
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Old Feb 26th, 2012, 3:46:25 PM   #8
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Above is correct, I'd like it to be fixed before I order.
Sorry about the confusion, I'll make sure to clarify the description.
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Corrected, I said I was confused...
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Old Feb 26th, 2012, 11:08:51 PM   #10
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Future Sight, Morning Sun, Shadow Ball
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Old Feb 26th, 2012, 11:19:27 PM   #11
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Shadow Ball should be 1x effective too you know >.>
Anyways... This is an interesting position.

Tectonic Destruction (Earthquake combo) -> sleep/cooldown -> Yawn

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Old Feb 27th, 2012, 6:05:08 PM   #12
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Could you specify a little more waterwarrior on your actions? I don't have a clue what EQ means...
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Old Feb 27th, 2012, 6:24:28 PM   #13
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He means Earthquake.
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Old Feb 27th, 2012, 6:31:08 PM   #14
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Yea, I'm a lazy fuck and wrote the abbreviation. Sorry ^^;
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Old Feb 28th, 2012, 7:33:59 PM   #15
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Waterwarrior
OOOOO

Kippy the Marshtomp (M) @
Hp: 90
Eng: 83

Nature: Adamant
Abilities:Torrent
Stats: -1SpD (2a)
Atk:4/Def:3/SpA:1/SpD:3/Spe:50
Condition: OK

Yarnus of Bethany
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Crack! the Togepi (F)
Hp: 43
Eng: 81

Nature: Modest
Abilities:Hustle
Serene grace
Stats: None
Atk:0/Def:3/SpA:3/SpD:3/Spe:20
Condition: OK

Neither trainer seems to be able to come on top as they both struggle this round

Calcs
A1
Togepi uses Future sight -7eng ... what will happen?
Marshtomp uses Tectonic Destruction (Earthquake combo) -35eng,(C=1944 no)(10x2.25=23+3+6-4.5=28) -28Hp Togepi
*Marshtomp took the future sight attack! (10+4.5-4.5+1.75=12) -12Hp Marshtomp
**Marshtomp fell asleep! (1/3[3is intense]=1) light sleep
A2
Marshtomp is asleep! (0 more actions)
Togepi uses morning sun -15eng, +15Hp togepi
A3
Marshtomp uses yawn -7eng, togepi became sleepy
Togepi uses shadow ball -6eng,(C=3734) (8+2+4.5-4.5+1.75=12 damage) -12Hp Marshtomp(SpD lower 2000/10000= 231 yes (lol) -1SpD (2r)


Waterwarrior
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Kippy the Marshtomp (M) @
Hp: 66
Eng: 41

Nature: Adamant
Abilities:Torrent
Stats: -1SpD (1r)
Atk:4/Def:3/SpA:1/SpD:3/Spe:50
Condition: OK

Yarnus of Bethany
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Crack! the Togepi (F)
Hp: 30
Eng: 53

Nature: Modest
Abilities:Hustle
Serene grace
Stats: None
Atk:0/Def:3/SpA:3/SpD:3/Spe:20
Condition: Tired

Waterwarrior, your up!
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Hmmm... I COULD activate a switch phase, but that would mean he could get rid of the Yawn... Push forwards Kippy, you can do it!

By the way, I'd like to say that, since he used Future Sight on A1, before the first Future Sight hit, he stacked Future Sight, so it shouldn't hit me at the end of A1 this round. You mad bro? -trollface-
Oh yea... STOP HAXING ME

Dig -> Earthquake -> Waterfall

EDIT: @below, that's correct, BRING DAT 1.75 EXTRA DMG ON BITCH!
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Why did SpD go away after A2? I think drops only decay at the end of the round.

Edit: I'm pretty sure it's not the stacking Objection's talking about.
Also, a white-walled room isn't exactly badly lighted, so Morning Sun should heal 25 damage

Future Sight, Shadow Ball + Shadow Ball, cooldown
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@1: I wouldn't think so. The wording is that Future Sight happens at the end of the first action of the following round, so the second use would just cause another Future Sight to happen next round.

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I asked about the situation on the SQSA thread, so I'd like it if you can withhold the reffing until its answered Mog.
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Why does no one ask me? The description of future sight is that it happens next a1 not the current round, so there is no stacking effect... I will ref later though.
As for morning sun, we are indoors so togepi can't see the sun. And the walls are white not well light. Staying with the original 15Hp.
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Waterwarrior
OOOOO

Kippy the Marshtomp (M) @
Hp: 66
Eng: 41

Nature: Adamant
Abilities:Torrent
Stats: -1SpD (1r)
Atk:4/Def:3/SpA:1/SpD:3/Spe:50
Condition: OK

Yarnus of Bethany
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Crack! the Togepi (F)
Hp: 30
Eng: 53

Nature: Modest
Abilities:Hustle
Serene grace
Stats: None
Atk:0/Def:3/SpA:3/SpD:3/Spe:20
Condition: Tired

a1
Marshtomp dug under ground!
Togepi uses Future sight -7eng ... what will happen?
Marshtomp hit togepi with dig! -9eng,(C=8819) (8+3+6-4.5=12.5>13) -13Hp Togepi
*Marshtomp took the future sight attack! (10+4.5-4.5+1.75=12) -12Hp Marshtomp
**Togepi fell asleep! (1/3[3is intense]=1) light sleep 1a
A2
Marshtomp uses earthquake -6eng,(C=1207)(10+3+6-4.5=15 damage) -15Hp Togepi
Togepi is asleep!
*Togepi woke up!
A3
Marshtomp uses waterfall -5eng,(C=9313) (8+3+6-4.5=13 damage) -13Hp Togepi, Togepi fainted!

Waterwarrior
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Kippy the Marshtomp (M) @
Hp: 54
Eng: 41

Nature: Adamant
Abilities:Torrent
Stats: OK (finally)
Atk:4/Def:3/SpA:1/SpD:3/Spe:50
Condition: OK

Yarnus of Bethany
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Crack! the Togepi (F)
Hp: -11
Eng: 26

Nature: Modest
Abilities:Hustle
Serene grace
Stats: None
Atk:0/Def:3/SpA:3/SpD:3/Spe:20
Condition: KO

Yarnus, send out your next Pokemon and order (I think...)
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1. As much as I'd love not spending any energy that round...
2. Aww can go suck a railroad spike. Thank you.
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Yeah, Aww's coming out. I'll pass on your suggestion .

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Mother of god... Im not nearly as fucked as once thought. SolarBeam can't be used when therres no sunlight, and with the fact that we are indoors and all, as well as Mog's position on Moonlight, Yarnus has to re-order

In other news, Mog is the best red ever because of this.
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Yarnus, your actions are illegal, please reorder the solarbeam
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I disagree with your conclusion, but you are the ref, so whatever.
Sending out Yum!

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If Mirror coat, first disable Earthquake, the second time Body Slam, the third time Zen Headbutt
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