This is extremely helpful.... leave a pokemn in the daycare and take about 300 steps and already its at like lv 6... use an IV calc, and combined with the characteristic you can easily narrow down the range at lv 10, where without the characteristic you would need to get your baby in the 20s for accurate results
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The Characteristics Thread
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This feature is completely awesome. I just went through all my wilds that I caught over the course of the game, and I figured out the IVs for all males with one of the 6 comments that would be indicative of a potential perfect stat. Look at all these things with 31s that will be very helpful for breeding that, in RSE, I never would have known about (like hell I'm taking every Pokemon I own to the IV man who is way out of the way in the first place). I ignored females because they can only make offspring of their own specie which I felt was pretty limiting, and I'm a lazy guy. There's a good chance that I have a female or so with a perfect IV, but I'm fairly apathetic about them:
Kricketot(bug): defense
Machop(humanshape): speed
Starly(flying): special defense *also a 30 in speed*
Wurmple(bug): HP
Dialaga(no eggs): special defense *yeah, I know*
Anorith(water 3): HP
Shroomish(fairy/plant): HP *EDIT*
Ditto(ditto): special attack *timid/native DP too*
Yeah, I already knew about the Ditto having 31 special attack before this, but I had to throw him in for bragging purposes. I didn't bother to check his offspring, many of which have mischievous as their description, because I know many of them probably have a 31 special attack. Okay, even ignoring my beloved Ditto which will parent many, many special sweepers over its lifetime, most of the rest of these are really noteworthy as they're a great potential way to start breeding within their egg groups for those Pokemon who couldn't care less about special attack. Also, the marking feature has been expanded to six marks. I used this to my advantage by marking all 31 IV Pokemon with a mark corresponding to the IV they have maxed. I would highly, highly suggest that everyone go through all the random wilds they got throughout the game and do as I did and use the marking feature to keep track of them. Why breed forever to get a random 31 when you could have one through more basic heredity from a Pokemon you already own?
I'm 100% convinced that this feature knocks the socks off the IV man because I can quickly use it in the menu and because it's so specific. Sadly, I don't have anything with 2 perfect IVs so I couldn't check how priority on that is handled, but it does at least help you narrow down Pokemon. If you're a really dedicated breeder, you would instantly ignore anything that didn't have one of those six phrases as it has no perfect IVs. Any of you master breeders from RSE who have multiple perfect IV Pokemon could do us all a great service by transferring to DP and checking what the description is. I doubt it's random, and it will probably either favor the top of the stat list or the bottom (so something perfect in everything will, if my theory is right, have either "Often dozes off" or "Alert to sounds"). Knowing how that works would really help breeders get the most out of this surprisingly awesome feature.
Also, as I wrote all that and remembered the other thread "what to do in Emerald", I was thinking that we probably have enough experts to make a really awesome DP breeding guide. It would certainly give people who are new to Pokemon but serious about doing it well a very good reason to come here above everywhere else.
Kricketot(bug): defense
Machop(humanshape): speed
Starly(flying): special defense *also a 30 in speed*
Wurmple(bug): HP
Dialaga(no eggs): special defense *yeah, I know*
Anorith(water 3): HP
Shroomish(fairy/plant): HP *EDIT*
Ditto(ditto): special attack *timid/native DP too*
Yeah, I already knew about the Ditto having 31 special attack before this, but I had to throw him in for bragging purposes. I didn't bother to check his offspring, many of which have mischievous as their description, because I know many of them probably have a 31 special attack. Okay, even ignoring my beloved Ditto which will parent many, many special sweepers over its lifetime, most of the rest of these are really noteworthy as they're a great potential way to start breeding within their egg groups for those Pokemon who couldn't care less about special attack. Also, the marking feature has been expanded to six marks. I used this to my advantage by marking all 31 IV Pokemon with a mark corresponding to the IV they have maxed. I would highly, highly suggest that everyone go through all the random wilds they got throughout the game and do as I did and use the marking feature to keep track of them. Why breed forever to get a random 31 when you could have one through more basic heredity from a Pokemon you already own?
I'm 100% convinced that this feature knocks the socks off the IV man because I can quickly use it in the menu and because it's so specific. Sadly, I don't have anything with 2 perfect IVs so I couldn't check how priority on that is handled, but it does at least help you narrow down Pokemon. If you're a really dedicated breeder, you would instantly ignore anything that didn't have one of those six phrases as it has no perfect IVs. Any of you master breeders from RSE who have multiple perfect IV Pokemon could do us all a great service by transferring to DP and checking what the description is. I doubt it's random, and it will probably either favor the top of the stat list or the bottom (so something perfect in everything will, if my theory is right, have either "Often dozes off" or "Alert to sounds"). Knowing how that works would really help breeders get the most out of this surprisingly awesome feature.
Also, as I wrote all that and remembered the other thread "what to do in Emerald", I was thinking that we probably have enough experts to make a really awesome DP breeding guide. It would certainly give people who are new to Pokemon but serious about doing it well a very good reason to come here above everywhere else.
Having a few Pokemon with all-31 IVs that I got using a save editor, it seems like the features seems completely random on which stat it chooses, though it's always the second phrase. For example my Staraptor says Somewhat Vein even though Special Defense is the second lowest stat it has. My Impish Graveler says Mischievous and it's special attack is also the second lowest stat it has. And just to shoot this theory down, my Adament Monferno says Often Dozes Off and it's HP is the highest stat it has. So apparently if all IVs are 31 it'll just choose a random stat.
HOWEVER I would like you to notice that these Pokemon weren't originally all-31s, they were edited after catching. Even though I box trick'd them right afterwards and they 'reset' to perfect stats, it's possible that the messages are set when you first get them, since I didn't write down their original stats. Who cares though when you have perfect IVs anyway?
HOWEVER I would like you to notice that these Pokemon weren't originally all-31s, they were edited after catching. Even though I box trick'd them right afterwards and they 'reset' to perfect stats, it's possible that the messages are set when you first get them, since I didn't write down their original stats. Who cares though when you have perfect IVs anyway?
Me and Peterko are working on it.
I think it is random (see the characteristics research thread).
For special attack, what's the difference between "Highly curious" and "Mischievious"?
I had recently soft-reseted for both dialga & palkia and in both instances they had what appeared to be the highest stat for special attack (176 for modest or quiet) and in both cases was described as "Mischievous".
I had recently soft-reseted for both dialga & palkia and in both instances they had what appeared to be the highest stat for special attack (176 for modest or quiet) and in both cases was described as "Mischievous".
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=398748&postcount=830
Just because both IVs lead to the same stat at lv 50, does not mean it will be the same case at lv 100.
I don't believe that answers my question, just wanted to know the difference between "mischievous" & "highly curious"
All my Gibles (3) with 31 speed and 31 attack had the "Likes to thrash about" characteristic, so I still think it's in order (atk > def > sp. atk and so on)
Once I have Pal Park access, I will post my own multiple 31 IV Pokemon's results. I have a Dragonite with 31/31/31/31/18/15 Spd last IVs, and to test this random theory, I will clone it 6 times and send the 6 clones to Pal Park. If the message is different for each one, then the random thing should be true. If the message is the same for each one, then I will really be puzzled...
Here are some of my listings...
My Jolteon, Espeon, Infernape, Chimchar, and two dittos (both caught in Emerald) have max speed and the "alert to sounds" message. In fact, before I pal parked a naive ditto, I checked with the iv guy, and he said that the speed was maxed out. Upon sending ditto to diamond, "alert to sounds" shows up.
Mischievious seems to be the max iv of special attack. I have a pikachu that has max special attack in Emerald (Iv man confirmed it). Upon sending to Diamond, the message that I get is "mischievious".
My Jolteon, Espeon, Infernape, Chimchar, and two dittos (both caught in Emerald) have max speed and the "alert to sounds" message. In fact, before I pal parked a naive ditto, I checked with the iv guy, and he said that the speed was maxed out. Upon sending ditto to diamond, "alert to sounds" shows up.
Mischievious seems to be the max iv of special attack. I have a pikachu that has max special attack in Emerald (Iv man confirmed it). Upon sending to Diamond, the message that I get is "mischievious".
Is a bad characteristic enough to scrap a Pokemon? I've been breeding for days to get a Bold Slowpoke, and when it finally hatched it had "likes to thrash about." Not too useful for a future Calm Minder.
On the other hand, I caught a Modest Porygon that's "very finicky." That's got to count for something, eh?
On the other hand, I caught a Modest Porygon that's "very finicky." That's got to count for something, eh?
"Likes to thrash about" is for a 31 (or 26, 21, etc) iv in atk. Your slowpoke could still have the same highest IV in other stats as well, but the attack message was chosen for its characteristic. I wouldn't scrap him til you level him up a bit and check the rest of his IVs!
someone should fix the list, I wonder why nothing happened after what silver shadow posted...there are two pairs of very similar characteristics
Scatters things often. -> a sneasel with HP IV 18
Often scatters things. -> a bronzong with HP IV 27
Quick tempered. -> a bidoof with attack IV 29 (hot tempered on the list)
A little quick tempered. -> this one is probably IV 27, I had such a dialga once (while soft resetting)
this means that HP IV
31/26/21... Often doozes off.
30/25/20... Loves to eat.
29/24/19... ??? haven´t seen "Likes to relax." yet
28/23/18... Scatters things often.
27/22/17... Often scatters things. NOT "Often naps."
attack IV
31/26/21... Likes to thrash about.
30/25/20... Proud of its power.
29/24/19... Quick tempered. NOT "Hot tempered."
28/23/18... Likes to fight.
27/22/17... A little quick tempered.
the others are probably accurate, the only characteristics I haven´t seen are
Likes to relax.
Good endurance.
Very finicky.
Hates to lose.
Scatters things often. -> a sneasel with HP IV 18
Often scatters things. -> a bronzong with HP IV 27
Quick tempered. -> a bidoof with attack IV 29 (hot tempered on the list)
A little quick tempered. -> this one is probably IV 27, I had such a dialga once (while soft resetting)
this means that HP IV
31/26/21... Often doozes off.
30/25/20... Loves to eat.
29/24/19... ??? haven´t seen "Likes to relax." yet
28/23/18... Scatters things often.
27/22/17... Often scatters things. NOT "Often naps."
attack IV
31/26/21... Likes to thrash about.
30/25/20... Proud of its power.
29/24/19... Quick tempered. NOT "Hot tempered."
28/23/18... Likes to fight.
27/22/17... A little quick tempered.
the others are probably accurate, the only characteristics I haven´t seen are
Likes to relax.
Good endurance.
Very finicky.
Hates to lose.
I've seen those four, they are all accurate
Every, and I mean EVERY Pokemon I have bred with several maximum IVs is 'Somewhat Vain' (Sp.Def = 31), so I have always assumed that Special Defense takes priority over all other stats.
Pokemon's with their highest IV = speed, and the speed IV ends in 6 or 1, (31,26,21,16,11,6,1) it's alert to sounds.
highest IV = HP, and the last digit is 6 or 1,
it's often dozes off
attack = likes to thrash about
defense = capable of taking hits
s.attack = mischievious
s.def = somewhat vain
there was a thread on this. I put it in my favorites, but the thread got deleted. This is what i remember from that thread, and it is 100% accurate. I dont think those phrases have any priority IMO.
highest IV = HP, and the last digit is 6 or 1,
it's often dozes off
attack = likes to thrash about
defense = capable of taking hits
s.attack = mischievious
s.def = somewhat vain
there was a thread on this. I put it in my favorites, but the thread got deleted. This is what i remember from that thread, and it is 100% accurate. I dont think those phrases have any priority IMO.
Do you realize that this thread is over a year old? Also, all you've said has already been figured out a long time ago. Just read the breeding guide in the contributions and corrections forum.
Edit: Link http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20653
Edit: Link http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20653
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