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Aug 14th, 2011, 12:50:52 AM
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UU Speed Tiers
Here's the complete UU speed tier list. I've compiled all viable Pokemon that are of the UU tier and below to this list. The tiers are arranged by the same rules as the previous Gen 4 UU speed tier: http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/uu_speed_tiers
The fomat is: Speed / Pokemon / Base Speed / Nature / EV Investment / Boost Rotom-A = All Rotom formes (Rotom-Appliances) Tier 0 (+1 / +2 users to >90 base Speed)
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Tier 1 (100 to 140 Base Speed)
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Tier 2 (70 to 100 Base Speed)
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Tier 3 (<70 Base Speed)
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All Tiers In One:
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Aug 14th, 2011, 1:19:45 AM
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Thanks tons for this!!
I'd mention 252+ Wynaut. Iirc it reaches 139 speed or something, so it can encore Chansey to oblivion. Also, on 170/Lanturn you say Lanturn again where the nature should be cx And for that matter, is there a difference between Lanturn and the other base 70s above it?
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Aug 14th, 2011, 1:30:28 AM
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Fixed Lanturn (was supposed to be 67 Base Speed). Thanks. |
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Aug 25th, 2011, 8:45:51 AM
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Also thanks for this, will be very helpful :)
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Aug 26th, 2011, 10:32:06 AM
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Couple of small things
373 / Feraligatr / 78 / Neutral / 228 / 1 / 31 273 / Emboar / 65 / +Spe / 244 / 1 / 31 372 / Alakazam, Sceptile, Dugtrio / 120 / +Spe / 252 / 0 / 31 373, I'm assuming? Also, I think Sharpedo rarely runs max speed. I can't remember the numbers off the top of my head, and if I have time I'll go get them, but for now you should look into that. Still awesome! C:
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Aug 26th, 2011, 12:39:33 PM
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Also, Sharpedo does rarely run Jolly max Speed, but it is still a viable option since you outspeed many common threats without a Speed boost. Such as, max Speed Nidoking, offensive Suicune, Kingdra, Rotom-A, all neutral Base 100s, Deoxys-D, Roserade, etc. So I included both Adamant and Jolly Sharpedo. |
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Aug 26th, 2011, 4:28:15 PM
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What I mean is that since Sharpedo almost always runs Protect, the speed before a boost is rather irrelevant. Instead, the investment reflects what you want Sharpedo to outspeed after X number of boosts. For example, many people use 80 EVs (after 2 SBs, outspeeds +1 base 100+s) or 148 EVs (after one SB , everything in the tier unboosted)
edit: my math is suck :/
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Aug 27th, 2011, 12:58:18 AM
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While with 80 EVs in Speed with neutral nature, it reaches a 246 Speed. After a Speed boost, it reaches a speed of 369, failing to outspeed Alakazam, Sceptile, or Dugtrio (base 115s). While also failing to outspeed base 100s after +2, it actually Speed ties: 246 x 2 = 492. So going with 92 Speed EVs instead to reach a 249 Speed (as well as outspeeding neutral speed Cyrogonal) would be the best option. With 148 EVs, it reaches 263 Speed, which after a Speed bost, reaches 394. It fails to outspeed Jolteon or Aerodactyl, so it's better to go with 152 Speed EVs instead. I'll add these. |
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Sep 25th, 2011, 10:13:43 PM
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This needs an intro similar to the one in this article http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/ou_speed_tiers but geared towards BW UU
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Uh, I am completely sure that there is no Bisharp that has ever been used with max Speed, so I don't see the reason of it being in.
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Sep 28th, 2011, 9:20:44 AM
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Jan 13th, 2012, 1:13:13 AM
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Ok, so this likely needs a new owner and a major overhaul along with an intro. Post here or PM me to reserve this.
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