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I did my best, I have no regrets!
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ryuzaki who runs the SkarmBliss VGC server on Pokemon Online is going to try and update every week with usage statistics for the VGC '12 tier. I think some numbers might spark some discussion as well as let people know what the most common threats are in the online metagame. It'll also serve as a nice archive of the evolution of the online metagame. Keep in mind that regionals will not see usage ANYTHING like this. It may be somewhat representative of what you'll see in later rounds, Nationals Top Cut, or Worlds as more of the playerbase will be used to playing online - but also keep in mind the best players usually have a few Pokemon that most haven't seen used much or used in ways you don't expect.
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January 9th to January 15th, 2012 based off 11,529 battles 01 - Zapdos (24.21 %) =January 2nd - 8th, 2012 based off 13,530 battles 01 - Zapdos (22.49 %) =Huge thank you to ryuzaki for providing the stats and Sixonesix for the week-to-week change information. Last edited by Firestorm; Jan 17th, 2012 at 5:06:42 AM. |
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That's Dr. Antar to you
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This is really awesome, since there were only about 20 VGC 2012 rated battles on our server in the month of November.
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Got a kick out of 3 weather setters being in the top 10 then Ninetales down at 35.
But as you said, these ratings should always be taken with a huge pinch of salt since the regionals have way more unpredictable usage until the later rounds. |
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not to mention people tend to use pokemon they may not be able to get in cartridge legally without great difficulty (like some of the XD pokemon for example)
either way definitely cool to see what's being used a lot to get a taste of the metagame.
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Fuk Ninetales.
Surprised Hitmontop isn't at the top, but not surprised at all by the top 3. And Scizor at number 11 was surprising. |
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Apply directly to the forehead
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When did Snorlax get so popular? My team isn't hipster enough now.
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Join Date: Nov 2011
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300 - Flareon (0.01 %)
haha I bet that was my doing. |
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I'm rather surprised that Top 10 from VGC 2012 doesn't look all that different from it's 2009 counterpart. Eight of those Pokemon have been staples for at least 4 years now! Looks like Doubles is much more stale than I initially thought.
Thanks for sharing.
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Before the statistics were released, I just knew Zapdos would come out on top... Also, Metagross ftw!
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Not suprised at who's in top20. Though whoa didn't even know Volcarana was used, and didn't expect chandy to break t5
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I don't think being a staple in 2009 and 2012 and seeing some to no use in 2010 and 2011 qualifies as four years.
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Uh, sorry, I meant a "standard" Doubles metagame with no wierd rules like two Ubers per team and Unova only Pokemon.
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That's still only six at the most though. Tyranitar and Chandelure were banned and Politoed and Hitmontop were lol (Hitmontop did not learn Low Kick, didn't get Close Combat until after lv. 50, and Technician Mach Punch was even more situational then than it is now).
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wtf why is seaking so low
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December 12th - December 18th, 2011 based off 9,744 battles
1 - Zapdos (27.27 %) |
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Changes from previous week (top 50):
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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Mars, definitely Mars.
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I'm waiting for when Spinda becomes popular...
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THIS SPREADSHEET contains the data and puts a few interesting twists in it. I'll be adding more as the week goes on.
I'll keep that spreadsheet up to date. If there's anything that anyone would like to see on here give me a heads up, I have a lot of time on my hands in the next few weeks and would be more than willing to implement your ideas. |
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Interesting week, Sandstorm is the most likely weather at 4 with Hail being the second most likely at 7. Interesting that rain didn't make the top 10 at 12 and that sun only makes the top 40 at 37. Also interesting the huge increase of usage of Salamence and Eelektross.
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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and chandelure is uu?
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Also, I would agree with you for most of the post but apart from the last bit about rain. Most rain teams always have Politoed, Ludicolo, Toxicroak and a Thunder abuser as the core of the team. This leads to easy prediction as all rain teams spam surf. Also, there is no defensive synergy as the focus is all on offensive synergy in rain teams. However, with sandstorm, all rock/steel/ground get a 50% Sp.Def boost and, although hampered by intimidate, have a wider variety of abusers and therefore usually have better defensive synergy compared to rain teams. I would say that sand teams are probably slightly better than rain teams. I would also like to point out that I don't run either weather on my team and therefore will not be biased in my view.
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Only rock types get the 50% Sp. Def boost, and from what I've seen, the presence of tyranitar doesn't necessarily mean you're facing a sand team, it is an incredibly versatile choice, as it can pretty much counter zapdos completely, and quite a few other top mons, such as cresselia, chandelure (without WoW) latios and abomasnow.
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Not to mention, a lot of teams with Abomasnow or Tyranitar will possibly have chosen them only for the purpose or changing the weather against Rain teams, which is a great asset to have.
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